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Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

You can get a B350 motherboard for well under $100, overclocking on the stock AMD cooler from 3.2-3.8 is easy. and faster RAM wouldn't even be an issue if the prices weren't so crazy right now due to shortages.

again, I wasn't debating what the zen chips were made for, just pointing out how Intel will say or so whatever it can to make AMD look bad just because they're jealous of AMD's design. A multibillion dollar company doesn't claim infinity fabric is glue when they're confident in their own product.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

AMD doesn't compete very well at all under the 1600 needing overclocking to pull ahead which >isnt a good place to be with Intel launching another generation soon.

That's i3 and low end i5 pricing and easily out performs both. the ryzen 3 will put pressure on the cheaper i3's. And it's "competitive" because of branding... It's like fiat trying to sell a supercar with the fiat brand instead of the Ferrari brand. It would sell far less even at a lower price just because of the name. There's a reason they keep all their brands separate, especially Dodge(very few americans would buy a Fiat truck lol). Intel has the name, so people are going to keep buying what they know.

Funny part is its not wrong all Ryzen, Threadripper, and EPYC are the same CCX modules with >various options enabled or disabled and differing quantity on the base. Ryzen has 2, >Threadripper runs a 2x2 configuration, EPYC are 2x2, 2x4 and so on but all use the same CCX >modules.

Was referring to Intel just saying anything they could think of to make ryzen sound worse than it is... When ryzen 7 first launched, Intel called it inferior because it's a server cpu, not a true desktop CPU. Then when epyc was launched, they called it inferior because they're glued together dies from a desktop CPU.

Infinity Fabric is the future. It's honestly the only way forward. Intel has already shown what adding more cores to their mesh system does.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

It's already competitive.. There's literally no reason to buy any Intel CPU except for a 7700k right now(and that's if you're ONLY gaming)... i5's and i3's are done for. Intel's next gen will have to make i3's 4 core, i5's 4c/8t, and i7's 6/8 core or even all chips with HT and i3 4c, i5 6c, and i7 8c. They already went into panic mode and rushed skylake x and kaby lake x at the same time with some really dumb features(or the lack of features), while claiming "ryzen is just a server chip being sold as a desktop CPU" to "Epyc is just desktop CPUs 'glued' together to make a server CPU."

and intel has already shown that they can't just simply add more cores and keep the same performance and thermals. The 7900x is an oven and the rest of the i9 lineup are all clocked below 3ghz with the 18 core CPU only coming in at 2.7 ghz. Do you really think that's going to compete with a 3.5 ghz ryzen 16 core CPU at half the price?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

You literally said the exact same thing as me and you question my msg?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 0 points

Notice I said Zen 2? https://www.globalfoundries.com/sites/default/files/product-briefs/7lp-product-brief.pdf

If they actually get 5ghz boost clock with the new silicon, Intel is ******. their 14nm was meant for 3ghz and low power devices and zen got 4 ghz out of it. glofo 7nm is meant for high performance.

I said just stick with what he has for another year... I don't think that's unreasonable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1440p 144hz cpu upgrade?"

  • 29 months ago
  • -2 points

I have a 4690k overclocked to 4.9 GHz and it never bottlenecks my GTX 1070 no matter what settings I use. I usually drop a few things in the settings to allow me to stay around 144 fps, but some games I play around 120 fps. I don't really think you'll need a 7700k. Just save up for zen 2.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "r5 1600 @ 3.8 ghz or r5 1600x @ 4.0 ghz?"

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

there's clearly a difference in FPS in some games...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Downclocking a CPU when idle"

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

cstate already does this... Just make sure it's enabled in the bios

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should I upgrade?"

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

He paid an extra $100 for gsync... I don't think he wants to switch to AMD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "any suggestion for these CPU?"

  • 35 months ago
  • 1 point

RX 470, or 480 if you can find one on sale...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can I get by with a FX 6300 for a new build?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

just an ignorant AMD fanboy...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade From i54670k to i7 4790k or Start Fresh?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

pretty much any GTX 1070 would be good. I usually go with MSI or ASUS. I have the MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X and it's great. EVGA and Gigabyte are also good.

As for power supplies, my favorite is the EVGA SuperNova G2. 650W or 750W will do.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4NnQ/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1

couldn't find the 750W on here, so this is the newegg link http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438017

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i5-6600k Recommended Cooler?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

wtf I thought they made it where you can't overclock the non K's any more

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Can someone find me a good compatible CPU cooler?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2407454/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-78lmt-usb3-motherboard-compatable.html

You're fine with that cooler and motherboard.

just copied and pasted the 2 components into google and that came up...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is pairing a 6700 (non k) with a GTX 1060 possibly going to create a bottleneck issue?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Planetside 2 is a perfect example of this. Most modern GPU's are at like 50% usage while you're struggling to get over 60 FPS unless you're on an overclocked i5 or i7.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is pairing a 6700 (non k) with a GTX 1060 possibly going to create a bottleneck issue?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

again... that's not how it works. All 6th gen Intel CPUs are using the Skylake architecture... and what's a skyline pentium?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Pre built overclocked cpu- bios says 3.5, task manager says 4.6"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

the bios will read stock speed. I think there is a way to show actual speed, but when you overclock an Intel CPU, it sets the boost speed, not the default clocks. Go into the bios and look at what the core multiplier is, if it's at 46, then it's overclocked. If it's at 35, it's not. But I can already tell you that it's overclocked since task manager is reading it as that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What type of games would actually need the i7-6700k?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

I corrected you and you did it again... It's silicon, not silicone. Silicone is what you put around your windows.

If you're concerned about getting the best overclock, just buy a CPU off https://siliconlottery.com/

Most higher end air coolers are just as good as water and better than most AIO's.

And the not true part was because it's not black or white. You said it yourself, the silicon gods determine your fate when it comes to max overclock.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What type of games would actually need the i7-6700k?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

The nice thing about the i5 6600k is that it will overclock higher with lesser cooling than the 6700k. I have had 4.6ghz on a 6600k with a 212evo

That's not true at all... Some i7's OC better than some i5's. It all depends on the silicon. It barely makes a difference and you can have two profiles saved in your bios for HT on with a lower OC and HT off with a higher OC. If you're not going to be using more than 4 threads, then run the HT off profile, and if you're going to be using more than 4, run the HT on profile.

and there's a HUGE difference between silicon and silicone...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What type of games would actually need the i7-6700k?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

games with lots of AI, physics oriented objects, 50+ other players, and open world games.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Thermal Paste Question"

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

yes. remove it and add more.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade From i54670k to i7 4790k or Start Fresh?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

ffs... I hate touchpads... just had a long post typed out and accidentally closed the tab.

My laptop is faster than my PC.Samsung nvme(crappy version of sm951) vs 850 Evo. Visual studio, which takes about 3+ mins to open on a HDD opens in about 7 secs on my laptop, and 10-15 secs on my PC. Is that a huge difference? nope. But it's a hell of a lot more of a difference than an i7 will make. My laptop was purchased as something portable that I can work on projects on the go while I'm at school, so it doesn't have a dedicated GPU, so I can't test any games.

Some games already load so fast that it would be a minuscule difference, but games like GTA 5 and battlefield will see a pretty decent improvement.

I also suggested it because he was talking about future proofing and at $0.50/GB, a 960 Evo is a pretty decent investment. You'll probably never need anything faster than that for at least 10 years or more. idk... maybe $100 is a lot to you... not that I just throw around 100 dollar bills, but we're all enthusiasts and computers are our hobby, so spending a little more on something you want isn't a big deal for me. If $100 is going to break the bank, then sure, get the 850 Evo. I saw the 840 Pro, which was almost as much as the 960 Evo at the time with 1/4 the storage. So, I just assumed it would be a wise investment for him.

Also, his SSD is not holding many games... So an SSD upgrade is definitely needed. The price difference between a 500GB 850 Evo and 960 Evo is about $90. The difference is definitely worth eating Ramen for a few days if you're really that hard up for cash.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade From i54670k to i7 4790k or Start Fresh?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

Can you repeat the last 3 sentences in english?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade From i54670k to i7 4790k or Start Fresh?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

game load times... I doubt all his games are on that single 128GB ssd

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade From i54670k to i7 4790k or Start Fresh?"

  • 37 months ago
  • 2 points

GTX 1070 and a 500GB samsung 960 Evo. and I would definitely get a better PSU... Stay away from thermaltake unless it's certain toughpower models(not even all of them are good)

There's no reason to upgrade your CPU yet. If you were to upgrade to a kaby lake in a few months, you'd still be getting the same performance in games with your GTX 960, so I'd at least upgrade the GPU if you want an actual increase in performance. If you wanna stream/record/edit, then I would wait to see the zen prices(propably around $420 for the 8 core)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time builder- from ps4 to pc lulz"

  • 38 months ago
  • 2 points

I would start with a quality motherboard and PSU, then price everything else around your budget. You don't wanna get a 450W power supply only to upgrade it when you upgrade your CPU that you plan on overclocking. Starting with an H110 motherboard will make it impossibly to overclock that 7700k that you upgrade to in a year or two.

And trust me, you're going to want to overclock. You may not care about it now, but you'll start seeing all these people getting huge gains from their 4.5GHz i5's while you're stuck at 3.2GHz and you'll start tinkering with it.

If you're willing to spend a little extra, this would be a good starting point that allows you to get the most out of your starting parts I'd go with this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor $110.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $119.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $53.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card $189.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case $34.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $82.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $672.32
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $642.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-25 05:42 EDT-0400

All you need to do is get an SSD and upgrade the CPU and GPU for an awesome rig

oh... almost forgot, that motherboard allows you to use a smaller case if you wanna use something like a node 202 which is the same size as an XBONE

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Alphacool NexXxos Cool Answer 360 DDC/XT Liguid Cooling Kit"

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

You'd be better off just doing a little research and putting a kit together yourself. There's a reason why it took so long and they're the only ones to do it... The market just isn't there. When I saw this about a year ago, it got me thinking about going with water cooling, but then I started doing a little research and realized getting my own parts would be much better(way more expensive though).

I'd be worried about the quality of the parts because any 2 of my components cost as much as that kit and that's not including the fittings.

Even going with Barrows fittings and reservoir(cheap chinese but great quality), I spent about $600 on just the cpu($750 if you include GPU). They're definitely not using quality parts if they're selling it at half the price of a quality build.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Should i overclock i5 6600?"

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

it's definitely his CPU. Have you ever played planetside 2? it's 100vs100 in a lot of fights and it's open world. PS2 is not your typical game, it needs a LOT of CPU power. You basically need an i5 @ 4.5GHz to stay above 60 FPS. It's hard to explain how it works, but a 25% overclock will increase your min framerates by up to 100%. I rarely drop below 80 FPS with 4690k at 4.5GHz, and it's terrible without an overclock. I usually just stick to smaller fights trying to fight other skilled players, but I do venture into the zergs every once in a while...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Friend needs to upgrade his CPU (FX-6300) Any suggestions?"

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

He won't get anything decent for $150, but he could save up and get w/e AMD is offering next year for about $200(the people thinking Zen is going to be cheap is smoking crack), plus $120ish for an 370x motherboard.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Friend needs to upgrade his CPU (FX-6300) Any suggestions?"

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

an FX 8350 won't really be much of an upgrade since most games won't use all the cores anyway. He's going to be disappointed when he wastes $150 for 2 cores that he'll rarely use. He'd be better of getting an AIO water cooling kit and overclocking the FX 6300 to 4.7 GHz.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is this laptop good for its price?"

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, it's great, but from experience, larger laptops like that are a pain in the *** to lug around. I had a similar one(i3-2348M 2.3 GHz), for the same price, same size and everything that I ended up putting an SSD into, but ended up forking over $1300 for a HP spectre(the new model) because I got tired of carrying around a 6 pound laptop+the power block. I was also carrying around text books and notebooks for school, so the extra weight sucked. It was 3 or 4 years old, but the CPU's haven't really advanced much in the last 4 years, so the performance was on par with newer laptops, and the SSD made it a hell of a lot faster. It still performs great and does everything I need it to do. Opens visual studio in a few seconds compared to about 2 mins on a HDD.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "is this laptop good for its price?"

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

it's refurbished...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Dedicated Steam storage"

  • 39 months ago
  • 1 point

I just move everything over and it's fine. just copy and paste the entire steam folder over and it's good(make sure you delete the old folder to save space on the old drive). If you run steam from your old SSD and move all the games to the new SSD, you'll have to go through way more trouble by deleting every game from steam, then setting the new download path to the new folder, which will then recognize the new game and skip the download. So, if you have several games, just move the entire folder to the new SSD, open steam through the folder on the new SSD, then it will update and everything will be good.

If you just want to add future games to it and keep the old ones where they are, create a new path when you download a new game.

I have a 250 GB SSD for the OS and other stuff and a 1 TB drive for steam and other games and movies. I originally had steam and most of my games on the 250 GB drive and moved it all over to the 1TB drive and everything works perfectly. You'll have to create a desktop shortcut from the new drive though.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, I pretty much only use it for school(math and basic coding) and gaming. I'm getting a 1080p acer predator with gsync, so a GTX 1080 isn't really needed. My 1070 will easily run any game at 60+ fps, and the games that I need the 144hz for are running at 120-300 fps on max settings, which I usually turn down because lower graphics settings usually mean less crap in your way.

I'm at 4.5 GHz at 1.26V on my 212 Evo, so I'm definitely not expecting to see any real noticable increases.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

yeah I decided to go with distilled water and silver after reading up about dyes/colored liquids.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

When I said performance, I meant the performance of the loop, not the system. I would like to be able to get 4.9-5Ghz. So yeah... I'm doing it because I've been tearing old radios and car parts down and putting them back together since I could walk. I love doing stuff like this. The looks aren't really that important, but I'm going to go ahead and get a braided cable kit with my custom loop.

I don't think spending $500 for a 5% increase in performance is really worth it... I've been thinking about getting a 6800k though, but I'm waiting to see what zen has to offer.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

OK... I have a new list...

GPU Block

CPU Block

Resevoir

Pump

Tubing

Radiator

Coolant

Total comes to about $720 shipped...

Is there a comparable CPU block for less? It's a special edition, but it looks nice and it's solid copper and I've seen good reviews...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

I was looking at a thread about why AIO's aren't as good and pretty much everyone said it was because of the rad and pump. Rad's not big enough and pump's not moving it fast enough. I just went with the biggest one lol... I'll look into that more. I'd like to have a stable 4.9-5Ghz on my 4690k(gonna delid when I do this too.) I'll probably use the stuff on your list with the block in my list and I'll find a copper rad that's a bit smaller.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Custom Loop Advice Needed"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

no1? come on...

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

Is EK the best choice? I don't want to use them because they're easy and popular. I want the best, without going too extreme. I put a list together in the comments, can you take a look at that and tell me if those are better? I know the CPU block and radiator are definitely better than what you posted, but what about the other stuff?

And I plan on using 4 NF-A14's. Most likely a push pull config if I have room with a giant rad.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

the fittings come with the parts. if you look closely, you can see the fittings, but I'm not sure if I need any other fittings

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need input plz"

  • 40 months ago
  • 2 points

what exactly are you going to be using it for? I probably won't reply, because I'm going to bed, but it may help someone else give you input. One thing I will say is DO NOT get that power supply... Get an EVGA Super Nova G2. They're about the same price. The motherboard isn't terrible, but you could definitely do better.

Also, the rosewill PSU isn't bad, but I'd stick with the Supernova G2

Comment reply on Forum Topic "where do i connect my AIO pump..? (NZXT manta)"

  • 40 months ago
  • 3 points

connect the fan to the connector marked CPU(on the motherboard), and just connect the pump to the 3 pin connector.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this a good PSU?"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

lol I guess I should have read everything =/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help piecing together parts for a custom loop"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

So 23 views and no help... I decided to put something together, but I need some opinions first... Here's what I have so far...

and I also have an EK block for my GPU, which isn't on frozencpu yet.

Can I go any cheaper w/o losing any performance? I feel like this may be overkill. I really want a solid copper block.

Will I need any other fittings other than the ones that it automatically gives me(you have to choose which ones you want)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Updated Build - Check it out!"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

replace that PSU with an EVGA G2...

Also the Acer Predator is better for about $50 more.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this a good PSU?"

  • 40 months ago
  • 1 point

It's not bad, but I'd go with the EVGA G2 for about the same price. 80+ bronze should not be in the $80 range... For what it's worth, it is considered tier 2 on the reddit tier list. EVGA G2 is teir 1.

http://i.imgur.com/361pNaI.png

Same goes for the tom's list http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

It's actually made by seasonic, so it's definitely not terrible.

Edit: didn't notice the part about the EVGA Nova... Just take a look at the tier lists and find a tier one in your price range. If you can't find one, there's really nothing wrong with that PSU since you're not going to be overclocking and you're only using an Rx480.

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