ah ok gotcha.
Just out of curiosity, was there any reason for the case selection? I think an NZXT H510 or a Phanteks P400A non digital model would've been easier to build in and better in terms of aesthetics.
Their gaming performance is nearly the same, but I guess you could go with Intel then. If you do go for more CPU intensive workloads, then the thread count of Ryzen may be helpful. However, the main reason is because there is going to be better upgradability options with future AM4 platform CPUs.
Oh if you have dual channel then you're golden. I dunno about Full ATX, those are pretty gigantic. Up to you though! :)
Great build, and good upgrades. some upgrades I'd suggest are
Add more RAM for dual channel performance
Upgrade motherboard to X570 with good VRMS
Change case to Phanteks P400a prefereably or Fractal Design Meshify C.
Thanks for the information!
How's that monitor going for you?
I guess. Maybe go for the PC Cooler Moonlight fans that Bitwit recommended? It comes with an included fan hub, controller, and 5 fans for $6 more than the cost of those four fans. Oh, and RGB rings around the fan. They are 120 mm instead of 140, which is better for placement options I guess?
A fan positioned so that it pulls in air from outside.
Maybe go for Noctua Redux fans?
I think it wouldn't be necessary for just gaming, but it would definitely come in handy for future proofing. Games might become more ram hungry and 32 gb would definitely be better for potential video or photo editing.
Also some custom cables, I would probably go for a white black mix of cables from Asiahorse for around $30 from amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-Customization-Sleeve-Extension-Supply/dp/B07Z4JT36Q/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=asiahorse%2Bcables&qid=1578926420&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyOUtOT0laWlpUNkVZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTg2NDQ1M0FIUEg0VFQ2VTlWSyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzcxMzY2MVpCQ084Vk0yR0wzOCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1
Double the RAM, and it'll be perfect.
lol bottleneck to the max.
The motherboard probably came factory bios updated.
Aight gotcha. Both are great cases, so you'll have good experience with both. :)
There's the Phanteks P400A that retails at $80 with two included non RGB fans. The Phanteks P400A Digital is the one with 3 RGB fans and costs around $95.
An NZXT H510 would be a good choice, or a Phanteks P350X.
Ok, thanks for your advice.
Yeah, I would either say go for a middle ground 1440p 144hz or go 4K 60 hz or 1080p 240 hz. 1440p 144hz for most people, 4K for people doing editing and need rlly good picture quality, and 240hz for competitive shooter FPS games.
How's the cooler working out for you? Would you say it's capable of OC'ing a Ryzen 7 2700X? I've heard good things about it online, so I wanted to ask you since you have a relatively thermally demanding CPU.
Wow... $225 on Noctua fans.
I love it +1
I would highly highly recommend switching your CPU for a Ryzen 7 3700X. Twice the threads and very similar single core performance.
Just wanted to expand on some of HarryxDresden's comments (which I agree with). The Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 3600 both have strengths and weaknesses. The Ryzen 7 2700X is better for multi core workloads, while the 3600 has better single core performance and the advantage of being the latest generation. It boils down ultimately to the end user's uses, and for a "First Gaming Rig" as stated in the description, the 3600 was the right choice.
NZXT cases do not have "horrible airflow". With a good fan configuration you can get good temps with their cases.
Going with a mix of HDD and an NVMe SSD is a decent choice. However, HDD storage is inevitably going to be slower, and it'll be more of a hassle to install a second drive. Going all NVMe albeit with some less storage leaves more options for storage, and installation is simply screwing in a screw with no wires to worry about. Once again, like the CPU choice, this boils down to the end user's preference.
Haha, it would probably give me anxiety as well.
Lol love that black styrofoam for GPU sag.
Please don't go with the Asus RX 5700XT Mech GPU. It's thermals are terrible; you would be much better off spending around $20 more for a Sapphire Radeon RX 5700XT at $400. Go on youtube and check Hardware Unboxed cheap RX 5700XT roundup.
oh sry, my bad
Perfect, I would personally just go for a Fractal Design Meshify C but for all other hardware I think this is a very well balanced build that you've posted. Maybe tack on some custom cables from Asiahorse for $30 on Amazon, and that would be a sick PC. [STAFF REMOVED]
4K is much more pixels to push though. It comes with a need for really strong hardware, so I'd probably go high refresh 1080p for gaming at this price point. However, since this person is into editing videos and animations, 1440p at slightly lower refresh rates is probably optimal.
So in terms of keyboard/mouse cheap bluetooth ones would work, right? For workflow purposes, I think an ultrawide would help , since you'll be able to see more on your screen and get a bigger picture, so i'll go with a 1440 or 1080p ultrawide.
Cases are mainly differentiated by motherboard form factor. There is mini ITX, Micro ATX, mid ATX, EATX, etc... You have an ATX motherboard, so almost all ATX mid and larger cases will work. The main cause of incompatibility between cases and components is the some slimmer cases being unable to fit gigantic air cooler heatsinks. This isn't a problem for your scenario because you're using the stock cooler which is going to be fine.
For your peripherals, are you looking for any particular features? For example, mechanical keyboard, or macros on a mouse, or an ultrawide or high refresh rate monitor?
Seems like a decent parts list, and the overall hardware choices are solid. I would probably recommend going for a case with good airflow and get a pack of fans to go with it, like the Phanteks P400A and some Deepcool RF 120 3 pack fans. This case setup would get better airflow, temperatures, and RGB ;) for around the same price. Also, going for an NVMe drive at a $15 increase or so will result in faster read and write speeds and less cable work. Something like the Sabrent Rocket or Adata XPG 8200 series would be a good choice.
I would avoid going with the Intel Core i5 9400F in this scenario. Team red is doing better, and the Ryzen 5 2600, although slightly worse in gaming has double the threads and overclocking capabilities. It also costs $24 less, and you can get a B450 Tomahawk with good vrms for the price difference, plus there is a stock cooler that is sufficient for most scenarios. Also, there is also better potential for upgradability with the AM4 socket. Also maybe something like the HP EX900 NVMe drive for the SSD. This build seems fine otherwise.
I would go with the MSI B450 tomahawk motherboard for $5 more. Better VRMS.
I would probably go with an RX 580 that has 8gb of VRAM, because VRAM is becoming increasingly important for in game performance.
Lol ok. You can get some on Amazon from asiahorse for like $30.
maybe some custom sleeved cables?
lmao ok. Just sayin, clock speed isn't everything. The Ryzen 9 3900X, although it is unable to reach 5 ghz without extreme overclocking, is able to get nearly identical performance to the 9900K in games. I'm talking less than 5 fps on average difference. The Ryzen 9 3900X also has more cores if you are interested in multi threading applications. So if you're going to go high end with ultrawide, you might want to still go with Ryzen.
However if you really really really really just neeeeeeed that minimal fps difference and are going to do only gaming, sure. Go ahead with the 9900K.
I wouldn't recommend upgrading to the i9900K. Probably a fairly high end AM4 CPU mobo combo would be a better.
An upgrade to the Core i9 9900K and an ultrawide would be very expensive. Assuming the motherboard is around $200 and the CPU around $500, the CPU and mobo would cost $700. The monitor is around $700. This means a total of around $1400 in upgrades.
However, an upgrade to a Ryzen 7 3700X and a 27" monitor would be much more cost effective. A Ryzen 7 3700X goes for around $300, and a good x570 mobo capable of overclocking would cost around $180. This means the CPU and mobo would cost around $480. A 144 hertz 1440p 27" monitor would cost around $350. This means a total of $830 in upgrades if you forego intel and ultrawides.
Lol ok, glad to hear that!
How are the VRMs doing on the motherboard? Did you do any overclocking?
I would recommend going with the AM4 platform. Maybe something like the Ryzen 7 3700X and an x570 mobo if you could afford it.
A good, reliable PSU that is new should always be a top priority. Aim for at least 80+ bronze and at least 50 watts of headroom. More wattage means more options for upgradability in the future, and can come in handy for SLI or crossfire.
Try to go for 3200 megahertz, but don't do it if its over $5 in difference.