Ugh, yea...huge rock. Thanks!
Are the predictions that it will last all year?
Sorry, the template got messed up in my post. I'm not rendering, just gaming.
How many months should I wait? Summer? Fall?
Thanks man appreciate it :)
I mean I know it will perform fine in VR, but will the physics and graphics look better with an I7 like it shows in the video?
I thought that was more of your GPU.
Ah ok, the only reason I ask is this:
One more thing I'd like to point out although not sure how much weight this has.
Is it a little strange that the Asus Z170 Pro Gaming board has only been out for 5 months and already has 13 bios updates? That's quite alot.
Thanks, good sites. I guess I'm a bit nervous because of how many DOA's the Asus Z170 Pro Gaming board got on Newegg review. Just a bit worried is all.
Not to scare you, but I've been having issues with the i5-6600k Skylake with the cpu freezing bug. Motherboard manufacturers are starting to roll out BIOS updates to fix the issue, but it's given me nothing but headaches for the past 4 weeks. :(
PC would randomly freeze from watching a youtube video, playing games, or running cpu tests, etc. It would freeze 2 hours into gaming, or the pc would be fine for a week, THEN freeze.
Many troubleshooting hours.
Many emails back and forth with the motherboard manufacturer.
4 trips back to Micro Center to replace parts.
...to find out that there is this skylake problem.
Just giving you a heads up. There are people that don't have this problem, I did unfortunately.
Getting ALL new parts Saturday from different brands.
I'm getting all new parts from all different brands this Saturday, including a new case. It's basically going to be a new computer.
But my screen is freezing, but I can't do anything except hold down the power button to shut down the machine and power it back on. Ugh, it's so intermittent.
You mean you were having very random freezes like I am?
I have two:
24" Dell U2410
22" LG Flatron E2241V-BN
The 24" is connected via a DVI cable and the 22" is connected via HDMI. Both connected to my Gigabyte GTX 970 Windforce.
Well I upgraded the BIOS because when I got this new board (ASRock) it was freezing in the BIOS and was told by support to upgrade to the latest BIOS version. So, not sure.
I was going back to Micro Center and replace the parts but I was asking in my original post which parts should I get now because maybe the ones I got weren't good quality.
I have not done this yet, but the puzzling thing is, I've run Witcher 3 at ultra settings which is probably the most gpu intensive game out right now and I still was able to get 60 fps and I played it all week, literally 7 days straight since last Monday night for about 6-7 hours each day without any freezes.
I also have frozen just playing Youtube videos before.
I mean I guess I could try it, but at this point I'm more interested in probably exchanging the parts. Like I could go for a week without freezes.
A fresh install of Windows? I've formatted and installed Windows 7 three times. One of those times I upgraded to Windows 10 but still froze, so i wiped and installed Windows 7 again. Each time, full windows updates, drivers off the manufacturers website, etc.
The error I posted above isn't keeping me from doing normal functions on my system, and I was able to use my PC for games, etc for an entire week before it froze again.
Ok so yes I've tried just one stick and it freezes. It's Windows 7, but I have also tried updating to Windows 10 but it would still freeze. I already had another 850W PSU that was in a different machine of mine that is a couple years old but it's working fine, and I plugged that in. It took a few days but it froze again eventually.
As far as the things I'm doing when it freezes, it could be playing games like Witcher 3, MS Flight Simulator X, or Skyrim to just watching Youtube videos. I don't think it's ever froze while idle before. It's always been during games or youtube. I've even run Prime95, OCCT, and other stress testers for hours. I ran OCCT once for 17 hours straight on 100% load during that time with no problems.
I've checked Application and the System logs and it never has any errors when the freezes happen. There is this error though when I boot into Windows:
"Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until the problem is corrected."
Ok so just an update. These are the things I did last night when I got home from work.
"Driver ACPI returned invalid ID for a child device"
So I uninstalled both my audio and graphics drivers and then reinstalled just the motherboard audio, and just the Nvidia graphics and physx drivers. Played a game for about 30 minutes. Freeze. So that didn't work.
Booted into windows and played a game for 5 hours or so, didn't freeze. But I wasn't convinced.
Woke up and no freeze. People have said that if you can run the CPU: LINPACK tester with that program even just an hour, then you're machine is 100% stable for overclocking. Well, I ran it all night and no freeze, no crash, nothing. Keep in mind I'm not overclocking right now, everything is at stock speeds.
Still not convinced yet.
Could it be just switching the memory around fixed this?
One more question for you guys.
I'm using a Samsung 841N SSD 128gb drive that I got out of one of my Dell machines as my primary drive in my newly built machine. Then i have a purchased Samsung 850 EVO 250gb drive that I have as a secondary drive.
Do you think that this SSD drive that belonged to a Dell laptop could be the culprit of causing me issues even though I have wiped the partition and formatted this drive before installing Windows 7 on it?
Ah ok. When I checked the DRAM voltage in the BIOS for my ram, it showed 1.200 volts I believe it was as a default. Should I change that or leave it?
I appreciate all your help guys. These are the things I'm going to try next.
I can't believe I haven't looked in the event viewer yet to see what that says. So that's my first thing.
Depending on what that says, I'm going to switch the memory around to different bank and test.
If still freezes, I'm going to pull the board out, place it on the box, and only connect the cpu/cooler, video card, 1 ram stick, 1 hard drive, and the psu obviously and see if i can duplicate issue.
Ok no problem.
I did reset the bios to default. Still crashed. Also the bios is updated to the latest version.
XMP is enabled for the memory (if that's what you mean). I didn't see any XMP for the cpu in the bios but i may have overlooked it.
I haven't tried removing the Geforce GTX 970 card yet...will try that.
I just sent Asrock an email.
Ok I'll try emailing them directly. I tried to find a phone number for them but couldn't find it.
When you say try 1.35 volts instead of 1.5....what are you referring to?
I reset the bios to defaults and left everything on AUTO which is how the BIOS originally had it.
I was always under the impression that the Skylake processors were overclocking machines. I've seen videos and read forums on overclock.net where people were overclocking the 6600k skylake at minimum 4.4ghz without issues. People would run at 70 degrees celsius under load and were fine.
The highest I've been at was 60 under load.
Not sure. I use the Hyper 212 cooler.
Ok will try that. Thanks.
Quick question. Could it be the PSU though?
Appreciate the response.
No I have the system at it's default settings and it freezes. Do I have a quality PSU? It's an EVGA semi-modular 80+ Gold.
Yea the machine would never get above 60 degrees running at stock speeds so I'm not sure there. Between my case and cooling it should be fine. I just bought two industrial Noctua fans for exhaust. They were pretty expensive and they run great. I also have two Cougar Vortex intake fans that run pretty well too. My motherboard temps look good also.
I mean I can run prime95 for hours upon hours without issues. I can play a game that is graphic intensive like Witcher 3 for hours and be fine. Then I could exit the game, browse the internet and boom...freeze.
It's very strange and I'm not sure what could be causing this.
So would they be fine as intake AND as an exhaust fan?
Hey atleast you found the issue. :)
Glad it worked out.
Do this first before returning the board. I'm going to assume you don't have an extra PSU lying around to test with so pull the board out of the case and put it on an anti-static surface like a wooden desk or something.
Only connect the 24 pin power connector and the ATX 12v connector, put the ram in, and plug in your monitor into the onboard graphics and see if you get anything. Clear the CMOS first if you can just to be sure. You don't need to hook up your hard drives. We just need POST.
If you don't get anything at all then it's quite possible you have a DOA board. I mean it could potentially be the PSU but without another one to test with, you'll have to do some trial and error.
Ahh nice! I like those Phantek 140's more. :) Thx.
Awesome, will check them out. Thx.
Yea just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
Any recommendations for good 120mm AF fans for intake?
Ok AF it is then. Thanks! :)
Yea, different chipsets are different. Some take a while to post the first time. The first time I booted up my ASRock Z170 Pro4 it took a full 2 minutes before I saw anything on the screen. After that and it recognized my drives, it was fine.
So I should use AF even if there's an air filter and front panel on my case?
This is how the case looks. It has openings on the bottom for air flow.
This is how the air filter looks when you take the front panel off.
So is the static pressure only for objects that are in front of the fans (where parts are)? Or also behind the fans (where the filter and front panel is)?
OK I was just curious because I went through two Gigabyte motherboards recently because they were DOA out of the box. But my issue was I would have a black screen that would sit there for about 15-30 seconds, then restart and do the same thing for 30 seconds, and restart again.
No screen, no post, nothing.
I had to go with ASRock board and it worked fine.
Also, how long are you letting it idle at the black screen. I know you don't have a Z170 chipset but I know that chipset is very slow to POST. Have you waited and let it sit on the black screen for a good amount of time?
Does it just stay on with a black screen and no post and no beeps? Or does it power off and restart in a "loop"?
I mean it could be me but to isolate that I made sure I used an anti-static band as well as a mat, and the second time I hooked up the board outside of the case and only plugged in the 24pin, 8pin 12v, the cpu with the hyper 212 evo cooler and the ram.
Brand new board, cpu, cooler, and ram and it still had same result. No post, no screen, no beeps and it would shut down and restart every 15 seconds or so.
I mean I just built a gaming rig for a friend of mine. I used to work as a repair contractor for both Dell and HP replacing boards and parts all the time. I've done this for about 15 years.
I eliminated all possibilities. It could just be me though.
I might actually go with the ASRock Z170 Pro4S board. It's a decent price and I've heard good things about it.
Massachusetts, USA. So the ASRock boards are good quality? Expansive BIOS, overclocking capability, overall stability?
What about a cpu cooler?
I appreciate it. Would this only require the one 140mm case fan for the rear exhaust? Anything else for air flow?
Do I need to buy any additional case fans with this for air flow in the case?
Nope, not neccesary. Just wanted to run big games like Witcher 3 at 60fps on ultra or "high" settings if possible.
Ok sorry, done.