The Asus cards are top notch. That has the DCU cooler and will perform very well. Asus uses military spec components in these cards also for better longevity.
Canadian site and may cost more on shipping than new egg. I've considered them in the past, but newegg and Amazon I trust more in case I need to rma a part.
The e3 is not comparable to a stock 4770k or even an fx 8350.
Dont waste your money.
A haswell chip is a luck question... Some top at 4.4,some clock over 5.
The x79 is a very much more expensive option that can clock pretty high.
An Amd fx8350 can clock extremely high under the right cooler. If your interested in really high clocks, this may be the best bet. Liquid cooler or custom loop water is best.
What about the 280x? I know prices here are different than in your country, so I'm not sure what that costs for you.
I ran an i5 4670k on stock cooler while waiting to buy my h100i for about 3 months while gaming (first month I was also using integrated gpu while awaiting the 280x release). It never saw over 68c.
People that overheat these chips often replace the thermal compound before installing and botch the job, or they over clock like idiots without proper cooling in place. Haswell runs hotter than the previous generation, but should not overheat when run on stock settings and hardware, provided the case has at least decent air flow.
The r9 280x supports 6 simultaneous displays using any combo of ports.
Go to the computer management app and look in the event viewer for any "critical" events. Those will give you details on why a blue screen occurred.
Not sure how to get there in 8,but in 7 and below you hit start then right click "computer" and choose "manage"
They only overheat when they are not cooled properly and over clocked. Stock clocks or liquid cooling makes for no issues.
The i5 4670k has no problem streaming. The gpu you choose will be a factor though, as will your Internet connection. An i7 is obviously better, but it's $100 more. You don't need a capture card either with a good gpu. I stream fine to twitch with a 4670k and asus r9 280x. My only issue ever encountered is when my wifi signal gets weak.
Yes. This will do what you want. An Amd 280x or Nvidia 780 will offer even more power, but the 770 will still rum most games at max setting.
That board, cpu, and cooler combo will also allow very solid over clocking performance. 4.2 ghz is no problem at all and you could go higher than that if needed. (not much reason to though as it won't max out on any current games at that speed)
You will benefit from an sshd if your a big gamer and use that drive to store you games on along with an ssd main drive for your OS. It's an option worth considering in that situation or in a small case or laptop where you only have room for one drive but need a large storage capacity. Most people won't really have reason to use an sshd as opposed to an ssd and hdd combo though.
No problem. My experience only applies to that exact model. The Other psu mentioned is well known by the community.
Alot comes from reputation. The older and more established brands have a higher rep usually. Also, alot if times the cheaper cards lack alot of features that you find in the higher end A brands (like the military standard hardware and multi phase systems asus uses, or the excellent software MSI is known for, or the insane coolers and high clocks from saphire)
Is that normal Amd driver applicable on the professional cards still? I would think (without research) that they would actually have great native drivers due to the large percentage of Linux run render farms and custom production workstations out there... (not to mention the recent huge number of consumer Amd cards used in headless Linux based coin miners)
Got a budget? Otherwise we could recommend $10k systems when you need one for $2k...
When you start asking about a 3d production system, the sky is the limit... Anything from a gamer build to a giant rack mount system is within reason unless we know what you can afford. 3d rendering benefits greatly from more cpu cores, huge ram amounts, large clusters of gpus, and fast hard drives.
As an owner of the evga psu mentioned, I can say that it is an excellent build quality and over clocks very well. Been running mine for 7 months with it on 24/7. i5 4670k clocked at 4.2 and a huge asus 280x clocked at 1100-1180, ram at 2400mhz (1.65v),lots of fans, and a corsair h100i. The system is fully stable and I've ran it at higher clocks for a while also without issues.
Basically, that's a gem of a tier 3 psu and can be trusted. (I was skeptical at first also and researched the model extensively before purchasing)
Better? Of course... Needed? Not really... Music production is not very taxing compared to video production. With music production, your biggest assets are the various specialty add one you use like midi boards, synth systems, recording devices, ect...
In video production, you will definitely see more performance. That taxes the cpu and gpu much more heavily and is reliant on those components and your ram amount to a very high extent.
So if your doing music, the 4770k is easily enough. If your doing professional level video or 3d rendering, then you'll want to think about the 2011 socket systems or a dual cpu workstation build...
Yes, it should support 2 cards.
As for the fans, you don't NEED more, but personally, I'd buy 2 higher performance 120mm fans for the front and take the one it came with in front and move that to the side as exhaust for your graphics card.
You don't need to spend top dollar on the fans, just get something over 50cfm. Matching them to the pin type your motherboard uses for its case fan connection allows your motherboard to control thier speeds. Get whatever floats your boat there... There's quiet fans, color fans, extremely powerful fans, light up fans, ect...
In the future, look into adding a corsair h100i or similar liquid cooler and you can crank that cpu to 4.2 - 4.6 ghz stable and keep good temps at all times.
Doubling your ram eventually is also a good move. Get the same ram to maximize performance as opposed to mixing different brands and speeds...
You have the start of a powerful system here that will be a strong performer for at least a few years before any major upgrades need to be considered.
No problem. With this setup, youll be able to run almost every game well at max setting. There's very few that you can't... Very few...
Yes. The 270x is alot better than the 260. For its price, it's an excellent card. A 770 is better if you want to step up a touch more (not much extra), but the 270x will play most games on high or max setting.
That ram is well known as being a top choice for a ton of people. It's probably the most popular gskill ram. It's tall, so keep that in mind, but it runs great and over clocks well.
That's also a pretty popular case, so you should be good. People buy it as a good value and we'll optioned alternative to pricier ones like you had.
No, sound cards are not necessary. They are a premium add on for people that are over obsessive about sound. Any z87 motherboard will have a great sound card built into it... Most are 7.1 Surround capable. Some even have headphone amplifiers and other high end custom features built in. Some even have a separate sound processor for the front audio ports that's different than the main one for the rear speaker ports. Either way, an add on is not required.
You can paint it. Just don't be sloppy.
It's a higher end cpu and a much more powerful graphics card.
Without looking at the specs, the ram is probably lower latency too.
I see no problem
I don't see how that's gonna be more silent... Looks louder actually... Though a couple quiet fans on that cpu cooler would make a big dent...
Get a 7200rpm drive instead of the 5400 for better performance (unless you are building a quiet pc, which it doesn't look like)
In your budget, you have enough to go from that 500gb slow drive to a 2tb Seagate barracuda. I recommend that. Movies and games take up space pretty quick...
Good ram choice also.
You could spend $150 less on a case and get a 280x or 770 instead of that 260... You will be able to play at max setting on almost all games then instead of half settings... Your also over spending on that ram. Corsair is over priced. Look at gskill instead
Gskill ram is top quality and will save you cash compared to the over priced corsair.
Scratch that hyper 212 cooler. Your getting a K series chip so I assume you plan on over clocking... If that's the case, run it on stock clocks for now using its stock cooler until you can afford a better air or preferably liquid cooler. It won't overheat on stock settings... Save the cash to buy a better cooler that gets you higher over clocks.
For the same or less money (as much as $50 less usually), you can get an r9 280x instead of that 770. It performs between the 770 and 780 and handles multiple monitors better.
If you don't have a wireless ac router, then don't get that wifi module... You can get wireless n for a desktop at about $10
Is there a specific reason for the sound card? I ask because many people don't realize they don't need them as the motherboards come with very good sound usually... Although if your a die hard audiophile with a $400 set of headphones, then that's a different story... So it's either a total waste of cash, or a damn necessity depending on your hearing capabilities...
I personally wouldn't trust rosewill, know for dirt cheap products, to supply a top end keyboard that's worth a damn... I can say for sure that the razer black widow is top notch and costs less though. Corsair, steel series, and other gamer brand companies with good reputation can be considered also.
Then there's the mouse... This has nothing to do with prices, just advice... Its OK to game now and then on a wireless mouse, but don't trust it as your main or only mouse... Batteries run low or signal quality drops and your dead in the game...
Get a bigger psu... 430w cuts it too close. Don't expect much system longevity with that... Go 500w or play it safe and get a 600w if you wanna keep your options open later for further upgrades (like a second video card or a single higher end Amd card)
Gskill is excellent stuff and not at rip off prices lol
Your over spending on that ram... Look at gskill prices to see what you could save without performance loss.
If your still curious about what xmp is, hit up Wikipedia. They have lots of useful computer component information.
Xmp is a technology that allows for ram to automatically run at the rated speeds... That's the easy way to say it. Basically, before xmp, in order to run the real high speed stuff, we had to rely on high end gamer ram and manually adjust the settings for it in bios to over clock the ram to the speeds we wanted.. Now it's automatic. There is a specific profile for each of these high speed ram sticks and xmp just allows us to use it by flipping on 1 setting. It will be in your motherboards bios settings under memory or over clocking, or some other similar category...
Any Intel i5 or i7 within the 3xxx and 4xxx family or any one of the many Amd A series cpus are good enough that you won't need a graphics card. The integrated graphics are more than powerful enough (and are better than the graphics card you chose)
They are also better cpus, so the system will run better AND you save money on a card you don't need.
You'll be fine.
Don't forget to turn on XMP in the bios so it runs at that speed... Otherwise it will probably default to 1600 or 1333
Both are great, but the right 280x can hit 780 performance with better multiple monitor support... Basically the Asus and sapphire models are the ones for that. The cheapest MSI and gigabyte cards are alot less capable and are closer to the 770 performance wise
Don't go with a b85 board. Those are economy business boards. You want preferably a z87 with a 4670k cpu or if you have NO future plans to over clock, h87 boards are good. If you can go just a bit over budget, trust me that the z87 boards with the 4670k cpu is what you want... Its going to give you far more performance and later on when you upgrade to a higher end cooler, it will over clock very well and thus last you longer before needing to upgrade the 2 most critical parts of your build.
Aside from that, if you plan to run stock setting on the cpu, then as long as your case has good air flow, you can save money by not bothering with that cpu cooler. I ran a 4670k stock with its stock cooler for 2 months while gaming till I bought my h100i cooler with no temperature issues ever durring that time. So you might wanna consider that as an idea to save cash now and use it to upgrade the cpu and motherboard a notch.
Probably over spent on the ram compared to other options of the same speed and quality, but other than that, nice build. I wouldnt have gone with a 770 considering the 280x cards are back to regular price again, but the 770 is Still a great card.
I love the side and top fan mounts on that case.
Catalyst usually prevents ATI fans going over 60 percent unless you tell it otherwise... That's a huge piece many overlook... For some games, either set it manually or have a 3rd party app like asus overdrive or the MSI tool control fans
If only more knew how bad a faulty psu could trash components before learning the hard way...
Valid argument, especially if you run crossfire vs sli. Most people see negligible difference though complete computer game junkies would notice if the log tons of time in games
I stand corrected I guess.
The extreme, like the mpower xterm is really not meant for gamers... Its meant for people who dump $10k into trying to break over clocking records... The hero version is more meant as a hard core over clocking gamer board. And even that is overkill for most people. Basically, youll likely never see the technology difference be utilized in the extreme boards, and even if you do, it will be minimal at best... You can't deny the "fu y" factor that the bragging rights of ownership entail though lol. I went overkill for my board too, so I won't say not to do it, just that you should consider the cost difference and if for that difference you could upgrade other parts meaningfully while staying in your budget. I coulda spent $50 less on my board, but it would have taken $150 to make the next big leap in another area, so I got the board and will just buy more add one later as my wallet allows lol
Most monitors don't have display port... Adapters are rather expensive compared to dvi or vga adapters. And the benefits of display port are really only used on a 4k screen. Hdmi can go pretty high and some dvi variants can get past 2k.
Your original post correctly guessed the procedure
Route it whichever way leaves a little slack... Or buy an extension cable if needed. If your psu is modular, you might also be able to buy longer lines from the manufacturer...
I agree. Don't mess around with 2 high end cards in sli with that psu. Go with a GOOD 1000w unit. And those poisonous are liquid cooled, so be safe and make sure you don't cut it too close... I might even go with a 1200w for the sake of reliability over time as the psu ages and degrades... You are putting serious cash into this system, don't go cheap on the psu.
Try the open box and refurbished deals on all the major retailers