I guess it doesn't matter. The sale is over but hearing a complaint that it is a four year old design and there is newer and better sounds good but I just don't see it as a relevant issue.
Please show me a newer and better unit in this class.
The main direct competitor is the EVGA 750 P2 based on the Superflower Leadex internals. Leadex was released late 2013. EVGA recently started selling these but the design is several years old.
The non-sale price of the EVGA P2 and the SS-660XP2 are close, but my point is for $85 USD this was a great deal and is still one of the top PSUs in this class.
The corsair AX 760 is a rebadged Seasonic SS 760 and it is priced around $140.
The Antec EA-750 platinum isn't in the same league as the EVGA P2 (superflower) or Seasonic SS or Corsair AX (seasonic platform).
The titanium seasonic Prime 750 looks amazing but it is $160
So what "newer units are out there with better interior components for the same normal price" ?
Ok, but what is your point?
But first, more than 5 years seems to be inaccurate.according to amazon the date first available was October 23, 2012
So, how about almost four years since it was released.
But who cares if it is four years old or four weeks old, it outperforms almost every other unit in this class.
And, at $85 after rebate what else even comes close to the performance?
excellent specs, super quiet, 7 year warranty.
Might I suggest reading manual for the MoBo? Page 2, left side.
You must have two CPU power cables as the board needs both an EPS 8 pin power and an ATX 4 pin.
The RM850i has two 4+4 pin Power cables so you are good with that PSU. use one 4+4 together as the 8 pin, and look closely at the other cable to get the correct 4 pins connected.
Also, I think 850 is the right amount of power for that build.
On the BIOS, that is my mistake. Those numbers are for an 8700, not the 8500. I don't know which BIOS you need to run a 1070.
The SS 760 XP2 is on sale today for $85 after rebates. It is the same size as the X650.
It is a fantastic PSU. The X650 and SS660 were on sale last week for $80 so for $5 more you get more power and platinum, and compared to the Corsair CX is much better.
The X650 that I have in two of ours is the same size as the SS660 and SS 760 and it is the KM3.
150 mm (W) x 160 mm (L) x 86 mm (H)
Pics of my kid's are on this page http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3515/t/19611037?pi21953=26
You can see it is a tight fit with the top connectors, but it does fit.
note: Seasonic Rep said that the PSU fan should be set to run continuous when mounted upside down at the top of a case like it is in that picture, otherwise the heat cannot easily radiate out the vent.
the SS 760XP2 is on sale at newegg, with a $20 rebate which brings the price down before tax to $85.
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There is a great thread on the dell community forum. the 8500 / 8700 and 8900 cases are essentially the same.
I have Seasonic X-650 in two 8700s and it is snug, but fits.
I thought I had seen someone stuff a CX750 into an XPS 8700
The 4pin CPU connector isn't an issue. four of the 8 pins will work on the EPS style 8 pin connector. on my seasonic, the connector is a 4+4, and I have the extra 4 pin connector zip tied up out of the way.
If you have an 8 pin CPU connector, you can use four of the pins without any issues.
edit: I want to add, and to warn, don't connect an 8 pin PCIe power cable to the motherboard or it will be trouble... Make sure it is the CPU and make sure it is connected properly.
edit 2: Don't forget to update BIOS to A10 or if running windows 10, A11. GTX 9x0 and10x0 cards will not run on 8700s with BIOS earlier than A10.
The Seasonic 660 platinum is about 4 years since it was introduced.
The SuperflowerLeadex was introduced late 2013 best I can tell so about 3 years ago.
The SS 660 is more efficient across the board than the EVGA G2. The only test I saw where the EVGA 650 G2 was better was 12V ripple under full load full heat and the reviews credit this with the inline CAPs on the main 12V lines.
I probably won't convince you, nor do I really care.
for $80, the SS 660 XP2 platinum is hands down the best PSU out there.
For $100 the EVGA 650 P2 is good, but the efficiency numbers are not as good as the seasonic 660.
You have to look closely, and interpret the results as the testing ranges have changed, but the way I read the numbers, seasonic is more efficient across the board.
EVGA 650 P2
SS 660 XP2
But comparing the Seasonic 660 vs EVGA 650G2, the EVGA numbers are not nearly as good.
I guess my point is don't let the fact that the Seasonic has a four year old design scare anyone off. It is still one of the top-tier units in this class.
My complaints have only been around the high price so when it goes on sale it is worth jumping on.
Sale and rebate ends today. Mine SS 660 p2 arrived yesterday. It will go in my Z97/4790K workstation and my Seasonic X650 will go into a future gaming HTPC build. Until then I'll "store it" running in my budget linux server and save some money on power vs what is in there now.
Seasonic platinum 660 is on sale right now at newegg for $80 after rebate. I'd just do it, or look for a EVGA G2 or P2 750 on sale.
I would get the Seasonic SS-660XP2 Platinum 660W. It is a fantastic unit.
the EVGA G2 650 is OK, but I like the Seasonic X650 Gold or SS-660XP2 Platinum better.
And, the price is killer. at $80 after rebate it is very hard to match with anything.
Other than price this got 10s across the board:
Build Quality 10
Total Score 9.6
at $80 after rebate this would be without a doubt a perfect 10 across the board.
ps: I just bought another one and it arrived today.
Would I buy a new PSU? Yes.
Will the EVGA 550 G2 work? Maybe, probably, but 550W is pushing it.
Are you overclocking your 6600K? If so and if you plan to OC your SLI'd cards, then I'd aim for 750 W.
Seasonic SS660 Platinum. On sale at newegg for $80 after $15 MIR.
$89.99 after $15.00 rebate
+ USD $10 off w/ promo code EMCENGH37, ends 9/29
Just buy it while it is on sale.
On the rest of your build, do you already own all of that? If not why are you buying last years tech?
The coil whine is often attributed to poor power strips or poor power.
I just bought the SS660 XP on sale from newegg, with a rebate which brought the price down to $ 80 (before tax).
I have three X-650s and they are excellent, and the platinum 660 will be for my 24x7 server.
I considered ( am still considering) a 4K monitor, and advice I was given was to sell my 970 and go with a single 1070.
Price it out and you may find the cost is nearly the same.
power will be less with the 1070 and driver support will continue longer.
I have a G3258, overclocked to 4.0, then 4.2 on a B85 MoBo.
It was MEH, with a GT 635 doing basic windoze stuff.
A second gen core i5 laptop was crisper.
As a Linux server, with a 5+ y/o SSD it screams.
read the whole article it is good, and in the end many of the differences won't be noticed.
I went with Cryorig R1 ultimate. at the time the D15 was out of stock and about $20 USD more than the R1. I had the R1 in two days and am really happy with it.
Oh, and it isn't brown...
about six months after buying I replaced the fans to drop the idle noise down slightly. I got a great deal on the fans and used the Cryorigs in another build. The idle fan speed running a little high was and is my only complaint.
I thought it was Dutchland Derby Rollers. Do they do the Dance Dance Revolution?
But, it isn't a gaming laptop. It will play a game or two but it isn't a gaming laptop.
if one is gaming, that laptop would FLY, but it isn't really a laptop, more of a folding, portable, 13 1/2 pound wanna-be-desktop with a screen attached.
don't get me wrong, I'd take it, but i wouldn't carry it around.
One comment / suggestion. You might consider raising the case up slightly for more airflow in from the bottom. like a beer bottle cap amount of lift for starters.
Since you have the temp monitoring software you could do it and run it for a while and know if it helped or not. from the looks of your cabinet it won't be noticeable if the bottom is raised 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch.
And, it runs Windoze really well too if you have to have it.
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The R5 case has a fan control harness that plugs into a SATA power connection on your PSU.
There is a three position switch on the front that runs the fans at 5 Volt, 7V or 12V.
It is better to use Motherboard fan headers as these can vary speed based on temp.
You can also add a bottom 140mm and create even more positive air flow out.
Anyway, on my R5 I have three intakes, ( two front, one bottom) and one exhaust).
back in stock on amazon and newegg.
1) it is a Z97 or Z87 or Z77 series MoBo
2) the CPU can handle the OC
3) the XMP profile on the memory can be read by the MoBo and applied
Which is why I asked for more details on CPU/MoBo/RAM...
More details are needed.
Do you already have the memory?
I just re, re-read your comment on BIOS and thought I'd add one last comment.
In the olden days, back when you were 10 or 12 maybe you did set something that caused the system to crash. My advice is move-on, and accept you might do something again but the current generation systems have a much better fall back plan to defend against users (like me) from doing things that won't work.
In the UEFI BIOS days, on a MoBo that is built for tweeking, you can save the profiles along the way, and if you pick settings that don't work, the system might reboot and go back to the last known state or it might go to factory defaults. If it resets to factory, then visit your last good saved profile and back out whatever change you made and move on.
make small, deliberate, changes and take notes and you can extract a lot more out of your system by tuning a few things.
agree with Enrico411 and darkchief1.
overclocking memory via XMP is super easy, and has benefits.
Read, Re-read and read again how to OverClock your system and then decide how to do it safely.
I would visit one of the overclocking forums and read, re-read and read again the steps to OC the CPU.
You didn't include any details on your build, cooler, case/fans or room temp so temps don't mean much.
Also, 90C is HOT and I'd strive to keep temps under 80C and voltages down as well.
However, the temps you listed are as Enrico411 said, perfectly normal
I'm curious to watch how this ends up.
Can you post your parts list and if you end up building it, do a completed build along with how well it works.
I think it does, but only in some steps of the rendering video.
Looking at the parts list posted elsewhere, I think a GTX 1060 with a six core makes more sense than a 1070 and a four core.
For the still image processing, more cores and hyper-threads and fast RAM really help.
Maybe. maybe not.
I'd put 32GB of RAM in, and consider a larger SSD.
Yes it is over the budget, but I think it is worth it.
I'd also look at a better CPU cooler for the hexacore i7.
Stealing from here:
Recommended CPUs for After Effects CC 2015 (13.5)
Intel Xeon E5-1650 V3 3.5GHz Six Core 15MB 140W
Great: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz Eight Core 20MB 140W or
Intel Xeon E5-1660 V3 3.0GHz Eight Core 20MB 140W
Best: Intel Xeon E5-1680 V3 3.2GHz Eight Core 20MB 140W
So keep in mind the notes above are for Video processing, and still image processing is less taxing on the system.
But, none of the above fit into your our budget, or will by the time you add at least 32GB RAM, SSD, and a video card.
I think you can get by with a 4 core i7, but I'm not sure. I'd check in on the Adobe forums and see what they are saying there. Most of the current discussion is around the Creative Cloud versions and what is needed to edit and render 4K video.
edit: I would describe what you plan to do and then say you are considering :
If you are going to Overclock the 6700K, I suggest a better CPU cooler.
Mobo: I like Gigabyte, but have been looking at Asus recently.
the Gigabyte Z170X gaming 5 will go on sale or have a rebate every now and then.
The Asus pro gaming Aura is another I've been looking into.
Also, I suggest you pick a better PSU for a build of this caliber. EVGA G2 650 or 750 or Seasonic X-650 are my suggestions.
The EVGA 650 G2 goes on sale or has a rebate to get it down to about $80.
The seasonic is expensive but does go on sale every so often. I picked my last one up for under $80 on sale with a mail in rebate.
with a locked processor you don't need a Z motherboard.
I like Gigabyte MoBo's and they tend to be solid.
I haven't deeply researched the skylake boards, but on the Z97 boards, the Gaming 5 had better voltage regulators on the MoBo vs the Gaming 3.
Not sure it would be worth $25 more though.
without knowing how you plan to use it, it looks solid.
I prefer air cooling over AIO water.
You need more storage than 256GB.
Unless you need the blazing fast 950 you can get a SATA 3 500GB for less and it is still super snappy.
which Asus board are you considering?
I'm not sure what Radox-0 meant, but what helps to know is what software packages you are using. You saying having more than one Photoshop files, which version of Photoshop? what size of source media? what size of the converted media? You mention editing Video. What resolution? How long are your videos.
Next does time equal money? or in other words, do you do this professionally where the more you complete in a day means the more you can earn?
Perhaps read up on suggestions from one of the high-end custom-built-for-you sites Like PugetSystems.
Finally, what is your budget? As you can see if you read through the Puget article the price goes up amazingly fast for 4K Video support.
But if it is for Professional use, and you can justify higher performance with higher output and higher earning, then factor that in.
Which did you order?
Both the 650G2 and 750G2 are excellent.
The EVGA G2 750 is a solid, top tier unit. good choice.
Or a way the "submitter" could reply to add, update which would unlock it again.
I agree, 30 days might be a better time limit, but still a good step.
Not really a good plan. It isn't a great PSU. Spend a little more and be happy for a lot longer.
RAM has some effect on performance.
If it runs at 1333, get it up to 1600 and you'll notice the system is smoother. You should be able to do this at 1.5V just by getting the right timings selected. The timings are stored in the RAM so hopefully the BIOS will pull them.
the RAM should work.
It should boot to 1333Mhz and then the BIOS should allow you to run faster. Search for overclocking memory on that MoBo and you might find what works best.
Keep in mind, you may not get the memory to overclock to 2400 Mhz on that board with that CPU, but you want at a minimum 1600.
If you use a tool like CPUZ remember to double the DRAM frequency.
The other option is sell the CPU on eBay and buy a new MoBo and CPU.
If you go with Socket 1150 (Haswell/Devils canyon) you can keep your memory
or sell it all and step up to a modern skylake.
The advantages of Haswell over ivybridge is there is lots of inventory.
The advantages of Skylake over Haswell is there is lots of inventory AND there is still alot to come.
Given you only have 8GB or RAM, I think I would look to sell all of it and get onto newer modern hardware.
I would be happy to, but there is such limited stock you will likely need to hunt one down used.
newegg has nothing.
amazon has a few used, and this one isn't bad.