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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade for RX 570"

  • 2 months ago
  • 0 points

Just because it isn't as good as via DP doesn't make it 'only DP'. Spreading false information like this is exactly how lies get propagated and people end up parroting over and over.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade for RX 570"

  • 2 months ago
  • 0 points

Just because it isn't as good as via DP doesn't make it 'only DP'. Spreading false information like this is exactly how lies get propagated and people end up parroting over and over.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade for RX 570"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Nvidia cards require DP for any VRR. AMD cards have VRR support via both DP and HDMI.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "LF True 120Hz TV (42" or larger)"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I could be wrong, but OLED TVs are the only ones with actual high refresh panels you can currently get. All other ones are 'achieving' 60+hz through post-processing like frame interpolation.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7 9700K, i9 9900K, or Ryzen 9 3900X"

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

3900X

Any good batches of 9900K chips manufactured over these last few months will have been set aside for the 9900KS.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Reasonable Upgrade From I5 6600k?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Gamers Nexus has done a piece on your sort of situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCV9yyD8X6M

Comment reply on Forum Topic "6 Display Compatible Video Card / Point me in the right direction?"

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

I know the 5700XT Taichi has 6 video outputs (4 DP, 2 HDMI). It's not the best value choice, but it should be able to handle at least 6 screens by itself without needing an external adapter (or more if you go via displayport daisy-chaining).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i7-8700k/i7-9700k or Ryzen 7 3700x"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

If he's just gaming at 1080p, then the Ryzen 5 3600 is a much better value choice than either. It's only going to be above 144Hz when the 3600 would begin to become a bottleneck.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "x570 vs x470 MoBo ?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

I would say you have to look at it board by board within your budget range, because some X470 boards are much better value than their equivalent X570, while some X470 are pretty badly designed and there are currently quite a few good value X570 boards originally in the $200-250 bracket going at noteably discounted prices (15-25%) atm.

However, I suppose what you have to ask yourself is how scratch drive space do you think you'll be using? Because if it's several TB, meaning multiple nvme drives, then PCIe 4.0 might be a worthwhile feature even if your SSDs are not 4.0, as it means they'll never bottleneck your workflow even if you load up all the available northbridge lanes with them.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3600 vs 2700"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

What kind of productivity software? Because there will be ones where thread count matters, making the 2700 a better choice, whereas other software may not use more than 3-4 threads, making the 3600 better.

It's worth noting that the Zen+ CPUs do have some overclocking head room, unlike Zen 2. A 2700 should be able to achieve something like 3.8-4.0ghz all-core without too much fuss.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "4K TV for a Monitor?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Of course there are going to be 4K TVs with decent enough hardware to give proper monitors a run for their money. But you've pointed it out yourself - high-end TVs.

The price of these TVs with actual 60+Hz refresh rates and adaptive sync will quite easily dwarf even a typical 9900K/3900X + 2080S/Ti build itself, which already runs past four significant figures on their own.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Weird Intel Naming Line Up?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Just applies to the desktop Core i3/5/7/9 range. Their laptop scheme is a whole other mess I'm not touching.

No suffix letter = not overclockable (locked multiplier)

K-suffix = overclockable (unlocked multiplier)

F-suffix = no integrated/onboard graphics component

X-suffix = part of the high-end desktop (HEDT) range, a la AMD's Threadripper

XE-suffix = highest tier version of that generation's HEDT processors

KF just indicates unlocked multiplier (can OC) & no integrated graphics chip.

KS, at least for now, just applies to the 9900KS, which is completely identical to the 9900K physically, albeit is supposed to be better binned.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Rx 5700 XT vs 2060 super"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Quality of the encoded video stream & how it affects performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Rx 5700 XT vs 2060 super"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

If hardware encoding is at all required feature, then it's Nvidia or bust. This function on is still awful on the Radeons.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any Positives on 2-way Crossfire?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Both crossfire & SLI are effectively dead in the comsumer-space; neither game devs nor even AMD/Nvidia actively support it. Their only practical usage is in HPC or deep-learning setups, where there are actual scalability benefits to having multiple GPUs running on the same system, while not needing or being able to afford the proper stuff (Tesla/Instinct) as they are several orders of magnitude more expensive to deploy.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Watercooling RAM and M.2"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

A bit pointless for ram, but has some worth if you're abusing a nvme ssd's memory controller (the NAND chips not so much of an issue).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Full benefit of Gen 4 NVMe M.2 with MB"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Why not get the regular sab rocket then and save the money/put it into another component? Literally no point in one if no part of your PC supports pcie 4.0 in the first place.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Monitor and TV"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Afaik, there aren't any TVs with real 60+hz refresh rate within your budget. They're going to be at least 4K-sized TVs, but at the same time can only run at 120hz when the resolution is set to 1080p because of data bandwidth limitations.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Memory won't run higher than 2133mhz?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 1 point

Perhaps a BIOS update might help.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Titan RTX for video editing?"

  • 3 months ago
  • 3 points

Quadro & FirePro/Radeon Pro are much more expensive than their consumer counterparts because of software validation, hardware operational guarantees & aftersales support. The subcomponents themselves are also better, but that's generally a minor part of the premium price tag.

It's no different as to why current 'entry-level' Xeon & Epyc CPUs can be double to triple the price of the highest tier desktop product.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "HDR Monitors worth it?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Only if it has proper HDR imo, like having full array local dimming.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "high clocked 2080 Super vs Low clocked 2080 TI"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

A reference 2080 Ti is always going to be more powerful than any overclocked 2080 Super, short of XOC shenanigans.

What you should consider is whether or not you want to splash out on the even higher premium the 2080 Ti demands for the extra performance, because the 2080 Super is itself already rather poor value for money, but high-end activities such as what you intend on doing necessitates these expensive graphics cards.

Tbh, if you're already fine with spending the extra on a 2080 Ti in the first place, then you might as well just get a reference or whatever is the cheapest decent 2080 Ti card that's compatible with your waterblock and OC it yourself. That's supposed to be half the fun of watercooling a graphics cards.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2700 VS 2700 X VS 3600X"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

If mainly for gaming, 3600.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What CPU do i go with?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Neither the 3600X or non-X will bottleneck a 5700XT at 1440p, but for streaming purposes, I'd say you would want the 3700X or better (as in 3900X or 3950X, not 3800X). The main real-world value for money advtange the RTX graphics cards have over Navi is NVENC, as Radeon's hw encoder is still poor, meaning you'll probably need to set aside one or two CPU cores for encoding when streaming.

Another option is the 2700X, which should be cheaper than the 3600 and also shouldn't bottleneck at 1440p, especially seeing as are also pretty good overclockers. There is a minor gap in performance between a 2700X and 3600 in thread-limited programmes, like games, but when you throw in streaming, the extra available cores do make a significant difference.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "CPU cooler for 3400g"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

What is your case? Getting a better CPU cooler won't necessarily improve temps all that much if there's poor ventilation one way or another, because it'll just end up recirculating the hot air.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Question about PCI-E Lanes"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, should be fine. Only thing would probably be to make sure there's nothing blocking airflow to your PCIe 4.0 SSD. Those things get spicy hot when under sustained load and will throttle badly, if not outright crash, if they get too hot. Same deal with 3.0 nvme drives tbh, but the PCIe 4.0 drives' controllers will heat up much more readily.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "B450 Tomahawk Max or X570 Aorus Elite??"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

For a 3700X, the B450 board should be plenty sufficient.

And so is a 650W power supply. Save some more money on that and get a larger SSD and/or more RAM, especially if you're going to be mostly doing video editing on it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best used card on eBay max $250"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably a GTX 1080.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are large SSD disks worth it?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

A larger SSD is always the better option now, unless you really need mutliple TB's-worth of local storage space, because for one thing, both the DRAM & SLC cache on SSDs directly scale with their size in most cases.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrading my existing CPU that will last me ~5 years"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

B450 Tomahawk Max

Comment reply on Forum Topic "recommendations for a 1 tb nvme ssd"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Other than how much they allocate to the SLC cache (MP510 & other 960gb ones more, the 1tb ones less), as well as warranty lengths, they're more or less the same - same NAND (Toshiba 64-layer TLC) + memory controller (Phison E12).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "upgrading from a i5-7500K"

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

You may get better results switching to a 240hz monitor than a new CPU, tbh.

CSGO is indeed much more CPU-bound than GPU, but that's only in the relative sense.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "5700 XT for 4K gaming: The card to beat for the price?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Tbh, if you're seeking 4k ultra/v.high @ 60+ fps for 'AAA' games and looking forward to at least a few more years, then you're probably stuck with a choice of 2080 Super or better. Not because it's better value for money than the 5700XT or even the 2070 Super, but simply due to the raw performance deficit between it and the cheaper options.

The 2080 Super/Ti are completely awful value for money, but running many of the 'AAA' games in 4k with most of their graphics settings max/high simply necessitates the performance these overpriced cards offer, that cheaper and better value for money cards don't have.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2700x on X570"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The Aorus Xtreme costs a fat wad of cash, so it may just be worth going onto somewhere like reddit, ask your question there and tag one (or both) of the Gigabyte community/product manager accounts in the post.

X570 should support Ryzen 2000, but if you're blowing $700 on a motherboard, then you might as well get some first-party clarification.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Vega 56 Worth It At What Price?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Tbh, I wouldn't even bother considering a V56/64 at this point, unless gaming performance/value isn't your primary goal and when the prices for new cards begin to reach what they're currently going for as used cards, which is around or below what the 1660 Super is floating about at.

But then at this point, you're likely just better off going for a 1660 Super, or possibly even the 5500 which in theory should also be around this price range and is supposed to be released sometime in your upgrading timeframe.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which monitor?"

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

The Dell monitor in question not only has an IPS panel, but also a DP-passthrough/output for daisy-chaining multiple monitors as well as being a USB hub with a USB-C port.

That's probably why it costs so much more.

In comparison, the Acer is just a relatively standard 1080p/144hz TN monitor. Yes, it's obviously better than the many 1080p/60hz monitors which exist in the 24in category, but it's still one of many 24in 1080p/144hz monitors, albeit one with decent adjustment.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air or liquid for Ryzen 3000"

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The 3700X going full beans is still probably not going to break past 90 watts short of a notable OC & under sustained all-core loads, so any decent double-tower cooler will be more than sufficient, given a decent single-tower one like an U-12S is itself generally more than sufficient in most cases already.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "3200 14 vs. 3600 16 with Ryzen 7 3700x and x570 board"

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

3200 CL14 is probably a sammy b-die kit, so like someone has suggested get 3200 CL16, like a micron e-die kit, instead for almost half the price and spend a few minutes to manually tune that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Replacing GTX 780?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

The 2060 or 5700 will probably be better value in this $350ish range.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help picking out a graphics card"

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

I'd consider a 2nd-hand graphics card if budget is tight tbh. Yes, the best deals will be former mining cards, but it's hard to beat out a top-end RX580 (eg. Nitro+ 8gb) for sub-$110 in terms of value for money at this level.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What happens if you buy a motherboard without Wifi?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

A PCIe wifi expansion card only requires a x1 slot, not the x16 slot graphics cards typically use. Comparison of the different size slots

Unless you're going with something like an ITX-based board for a small form-factor PC, which I doubt given this is your first time building one (they're not typically the sort of thing novices would dive straight into from the start, due to additional considerations), most motherboards will have at least one x1 PCIe slot available.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "9700K vs. 3700X - Gaming & Streaming"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

I second the 2700(x) advice, especially in the case of value for money.

X570 should be compatible with 2nd-gen Ryzen, meaning you'll still have the option for moving onto at the very least a 3900x/3950x in the future if or when you feel the need to, potentially even a 4000-series Ryzen if they maintain socket compatibility. Plus, a 2700(x) shouldn't be bottlenecking even a 2080Ti in your use case of 1440p/144Hz.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What happens if you buy a motherboard without Wifi?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Errm...You simply don't have onboard wifi functionality. That's it.

If you want to have wifi functionality down the line, then you can always just buy a PCIe expansion card, usb dongle or even simply tether via a mobile phone or tablet (ie. mobile/personal hotspot).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "$280 for brand new RX 5700 but in reference design - is it worth it?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

The reference card issues are less pronounced on the RX 5700 than its XT big brother simply because the non-XT runs cooler in comparison (less cores & lower power draw/target). It's still going to be warmer and louder than custom AIB versions, but money saved is money saved regardless and the actual difference in performance (as in frames per second) between every variation of it is bordering on standard deviation territory for the most part.

Cooler and quieter are definitely always nice things to have, but people love to exaggerate their monetary value. Just think about it - the RX 5700 sits a bit behind the 2070/2060 Super - that's almost 2 tiers above a 1660 Ti. Don't forget, if you're not pushing the graphics card, it's not going to be running as hot anyway, since it isn't required to.

Another example of conflating the worth of premium features when it comes to Samsung SSDs; sure, they're generally the best in their class, but most of the extra money are sunk into features and software/firmware the majority of users won't be getting their money's worth from.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1080-Ti vs 5700XT (Maybe 5700XT + 570?)"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Both 5700 XT and 1080 Ti are above the 2070 in performance, the 1080 Ti even moreso, so I'm not sure if either would be the best value choices for you if a 2070 is already something you consider overkill.

Unless you're looking to push 1440p at higher refresh rates in most games, then it may be better value to just drop down to something like the 2060, which should handle 1440p/60Hz just fine.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Corsair MP510 good cheaper alternative to the Samsung 970 Evo/Evo Plus?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, although the 660p is still probably going to be the best in terms of pure value.

Or think of it like this - if you don't know whether or not you need the specific features the Evo has that others don't have, which is almost always just down to Samsung's firmware/memory controller and slightly better drive cloning software, then you probably don't need it.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any thoughts on the PC for the 0.001%"

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Unless you're only using Linux and not at all concerned about gaming, then that's an awful combination of parts, especially the CPU.

You need to swap it out for an i9-XE and dump the CLC for an open loop setup, dump all the Samsungs for optane drives and the Ti for titans. Those monitors also also absolutely poverty and need to swapped those out for a gsync/freesync enabled oled.

Not even going to talk about all the other things, because I'm still livid this sort of list is even considered appropriate for what should be "top end."

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Predictions for next year's Nvidia cards?"

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

I believe Turing was also a test-flight for one of Nvidia's long-term objectives of beating Intel in the ridiculous product name category. Although think RTX 3680 Super Ti Ultra Founders Edition may still roll off the tongue a bit easier than whatever Intel has in store for us, so there's probably more room for improvement extra numbers & letters here and there.

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