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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Thermal Paste help"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Stock coolers come with thermal paste that is good enough. Spending $20 on the top of the line thermal paste to make it perform "better" is a waste as buying a $20 aftermarket cooler would outperform it by a long shot. You may get 3c better temps using top of the line thermal paste on a stock cooler and negligible difference with lower cost paste. The money is better spent elsewhere.

If you are already buying an aftermarket cooler and get a good one it will come with good quality thermal paste by default. I would not actually by thermal paste unless I need to replace thermal paste on something and don't have any on hand.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raid SSD"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Keep in mind a Samsung 970 evo plus gets a read speed up to 3500 MB/s while the sata port itself can handle up to 570 Mb/s per port. Assuming you have 5 SATA SSDs in raid 0 your max throughput speed (theatrical) is 2850 MB/s and that is without considering the overhead of the raid controller pushing the max down further. You don't have to worry about raid controller overhead when not using raid either so the high end NVME wins there. Then again gamers won't really see the benefit of a 970 evo plus over a sebrent rocket or even a 660p SSD which is much cheaper for the capacity so there are only a handful of use cases where that speed will matter like editing raw 4k video.

In reality, just get the drive size you need in SSD (NVMe if possible) and get a bigger (and hopefully cheaper) rotating drive for backup.

This is mostly good advice here. SSD for things that benefit from the added speed over HDDs like windows/programs/games and HDD for bulk files where speed is negligible. I would not count that as backup though so that is where I would disagree. Having your data in more than one place at a time is backing up so say one copy on your PC and another copy on an external and/or cloud backup.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Thermal Paste help"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

From half decent thermal paste to the absolute top of the line stuff you will have a temp difference of 1-3c on the CPU. If you have a somewhat decent or better CPU cooler it would almost always come with adequate thermal paste to do the job.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cpu gaming"

  • 7 days ago
  • 2 points

Typically the GPU is what is bottle necked most at 4k resolutions. Depending on the GPU you may see a small uplift in FPS with a faster CPU but I would not imagine very much. Faster CPUs would be for 144hz+ situations and any decent CPU should be able to manage 60-75hz easily assuming GPU is sufficient. I would consider the i7-6700 as a decent CPU as it is still an 8 thread CPU and has good IPC with a decent clock rate.

Try bumping the resolution on your games down to 1440p and check your FPS you are getting then. That will put less pressure on the GPU and allow you to better see if your CPU can handle more than 60 fps. Which I think it is.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2 ssd's - good idea or not"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

In other words you want to get a scratch drive. With the cost of SSDs these days it isn't a terrible idea. There is an idea of just getting a 1TB SSD instead of 2x 500GB but if you are going to constantly write large quantities of data temporarily to a drive then it might make sense for one to be seperate as a scratch disk.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Raid SSD"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

in theory (got to love those 2 words)

Because there will be an overhead with whatever is managing the raid be it hardware raid or software raid. Generally I would not recommend raid on a home PC especially raid 0. Well raid 1/5/6 will help with redundancy in case of a drive failure but it is not a substitute for backups and if you do backups properly even without raid and you lose a drive you won't lose what is backed up.

As to elaborate and expand on what Zerk is saying:

As for why Raid 0 is pointless to most home users is because of NVMe speeds. Raid 0 does not make a notable improve 4k random read or the IOPS of the drives as it will take just as long for the drives to locate each file but it does improve throughput. Loading programs and games relies more on the IOPS of the drive than the max throughput so they will usually load about the same on RAID 0 or no raid at all. Tasks like video editing using raw 4k footage can definitely slow down on a SATA SSD but a good speed NVMe like a sebrant rocket or a 970 evo has enough throughput to handle it as it is faster than 5 SATA SSDs in raid 0 and much more cost effective than that too. Of course you can RAID 0 fast NVMe together but with that kind of throughput you are looking at a data center use or some other special use case that can actually benefit from it and that isn't something home users can see a benefit from.

RAID 0 also adds capacity together but with 1-2TB SSDs being rather affordable and monster capacities on HDDs these days also makes that pointless. The more drives you have in raid 0 the more volatile and prone to losing everything you get. Of course if a SSD or HDD has a chance to fail and if you have 2 drives in raid zero you have double the chances of failure if it is in raid 0.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Work overtime encouragement"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

Hey, working hard to deck out your bike, cant rag on that, just wondering if you're gonna use Cycling Builder dot com to build a such a bike or are you gonna buy one from a name brand bike manufacturer?

I am saving up for a nice Norco Bigfoot bike. Sealed bearings, 11 speed single back derailleur, hydraulic brakes, the works. Gotta have fat tires during or after a snow storm. The roads I end up taking often take days after a good storm before they even get cleared. Going for rigid since I hate doing maintenance on shocks and there is nothing I am even doing on the bike that even warrants shocks. I am buying it prebuilt at a local bike shop because it would cost double do buy everything separate and build it myself. Though since I have access to all the bike tools if I can get one where the shop hasn't assembled yet and hopefully get a labour discount and build it myself I totally would.

Link of the bike I am eyeing (bit cheaper at local bike shop) : https://www.norco.com/bikes/2019/mountain/fat-bike/bigfoot-aluminum/bigfoot-1/

What city if you don't mind me asking. I live pretty close by to Toronto. However luckily I only have to commute to school in the morning which is a 15 minute walk max.

@Ice44, I would be about 2 hours south west from you down the 401 highway.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What is reCAPTCHA?"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I can think of reasons why this site uses the reCAPTCHA. Mainly bot accounts which would spam ads on every thread and even make new threads. Bots can easily spam them fast enough where mods cannot keep up and they got better things to do than deal with that nonsense. If they refuse to take money from people wanting to advertise here they sure as hell won't let people do it for free.

Philip who runs this site said it himself that he refuses to put ads up on this site and since then he kept his word. That is something to truly respect because on many sites allowed ads to get so out of control there is a need for addons like AdBlock. I first installed it years ago on an anime streaming site had video ads that would play 10x louder than the show and even if you try to mute it or pause/stop the video it started playing at full volume again within 2 minutes on loop.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Work overtime encouragement"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

Longs story short i worked anywhere from 8 hours to 20 hours a day every day of the week for 8 months, we had holidays and i got sick alot during that time ( gee i wonder why ) but it was brutal.

Well I am trying to avoid that burn out so I don't lose out on pay.

i decided never to get into energy drinks. They are a scam and taste like a burning hard drive ( dont ask )

Many years ago I did use energy drinks and they completely messed up my sleep schedule. Tired during the day and can't sleep at night making me more and more dependant on them. I haven't touched one in over 10 years. I find coffee does that to me too but not to the same effect and the teas I trink have 1/5th of the caffeine as coffee does so it is more of the right amount. Especially since I never put sugar in it.

Do warmups usually 15 - 30 mins, take a short jog

My morning workout is riding a bike to work, yes even in the winter even if we get dumped a couple feet of snow. In southern Ontario Canada lake effect snow is nothing new here.

Also what are back to back shifts?

12 hours each monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, and sat. repeat.

i just constantly thought about what i could do with the money i was making

Yeah, I made the mistake of buying a cheap department store fat bike for my main transportation and it has lasted 2 years but after maintaining the bike (full disassembly and rebuild) it is clear it was not made with my kind of use. It has the build quality for someone using it as a casual weekend ride bike or a garage decoration not for 20+ miles a day minimum every single day riding. The wheel hubs are wearing to the point I got another couple of months before they need to be replaced and they alone cost way more than the bike itself. I am saving up for a much higher quality fat bike that can withstand my kind of usage for long term use. I am also factoring costs of much stronger locks as well and I will NOT skimp on that. I basically need to work enough overtime for an extra 2 grand in a months worth of time which is why I picked such stupid hours.

On a side note my boss did something to help encourage me on my overtime this morning before I got into work. She printed out a picture of the bike I was looking at with a message of encouragement and pinned it to my cubicle wall! I only really have room for 1 bike and it has to handle all weather as it is my main method of transportation. Fat bikes are better able on handling deeper snow that mountain bikes would get stuck in and without shocks can also deal with all the mass of potholes we have, no risk of a pinch flat. Believe it or not a bike is still FAR better than public transportation in my city for 2 reasons, it is actually much faster and I hate standing still outside waiting for a bus that comes once every 30 minutes or 60 minutes past 9pm or weekends.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I7-7700k Budget Cooler"

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

Lifespan of the fan will obviously not be the same league as that offered by Noctua brand or any other fans using FDB

Other benefits of a tower air cooler. If a fan dies you can replace the fan without needing to replace the whole cooler. Not the same story for AIOs if you have pump failure. Though generally even bad fans are likely to last a couple of years. Unlike cheap PSUs bad fans won't wreck your PC when they fail and due to CPU thermal safeguards if the fan suddenly dies with no warning the system can shut itself off to protect itself. Though when fans die it is usually the bearings and they become really loud first so you know then to replace a fan.

As for Noctua fan quality......They are likely to last 20+ years with no issues, as long as it is not completely caked with dust for most of its life. People tend to compare other fans to Noctua as the gold standard for quality.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1000GB NVME Suggestions"

  • 21 days ago
  • 1 point

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/9nhKHx,N7zkcf/

The Sabrent Rocket is faster than the 660p but both are faster than SATA SSDs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 21 days ago
  • 1 point

For that platform and CPU I would not even bother replacing the motherboard. Basically the i5-6500 still is a decent CPU today but in 1-2 years with how games are progressing you may want to upgrade to a 6 to 8 core CPU and when you do you will still have to buy a new motherboard again at that time. If your current motherboard is working then it would be a horrible value with no increase in performance. Performance is still tied primarily into CPU+GPU performance.

Sorry to hear your old GPU was damaged from your leak too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Newb question Corsair H100i"

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

Well I was referring to if you have fans blowing air into the radiator (push) or fans sucking air out of the radiator (pull) as both having identical performance.

As for if you have the radiator at the front where the air going through it is fresh from outside the case you will get better temps on the CPU that way but higher temps on the GPU. When you have the CPU radiator as exhaust at the top instead you will have a warmer CPU and a cooler GPU as the GPU isn't getting the CPU heat.

Now the actual difference in temps is if the CPU AIO rad is intake at the front is 1 to 3 c lower CPU temps and 1 to 3 C higher GPU temps. If the CPU dumps its heat outside the case at the top for exhaust then the 1 to 3 C differences would be reversed between the 2. The difference is not going to make a huge difference overall. It will not make your PC suddenly explode if you set it one way or another. What I would suggest as you build your system put the radiator in the spot you feel most comfortable putting it or where ever looks best to you. Of course this is assuming you have sufficient case airflow which you can get in a H200 case.

I am phrasing it this way to show that front intake or top exhaust decision is really splitting hairs and both will technically work.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Which SSD loads things faster: HP EX920 or Samsung 860 QVO?"

  • 22 days ago
  • 1 point

the 860 QVO will manage 500+ gigabytes/sec, which is pretty close to the practical limit for SATA 3

You mean 500+ Magabytes/sec. No consumer storage drive is anywhere near 500 GB/s. Sata 3 speed is capped about 570 MB/s.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Newb question Corsair H100i"

  • 22 days ago
  • 2 points

If the fans are in push or pull config the difference in cooling power between the 2 is well within the margin of error on testing. Basically that means both push and pull setups will function the same.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "adding old hard disk drive to new computer."

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

If this is a SATA HDD you can most definitely use it in a new PC. Though remember to backup anything important, as HDDs get older they have a higher chance to fail as they contain moving parts that do wear out over time. HDDs do not last forever. If it is still in good shape you can still use it but backups is a good idea.

Some motherboards will disable a SATA port or 2 if using a M.2 SSD (not always) but if it does disable said port there are usually more ports that are still active that you can use. I don't think I have ever seen a motherboard disable all sata ports to use a M.2 and even if it does disable any there will be about 2 to 7 ports that are still usable. On a b450 Tomahawk Max motherboard it has 6 sata ports and sata ports 5+6 are disabled using m.2 however sata ports 1 through 4 stay active.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Are large SSD disks worth it?"

  • 23 days ago
  • 1 point

Depends by how much data you are storing. As you said a 1TB SSD can be had ~$100 these days and if that is all the storage you need then why not? For HDDs you can get them for 12+TB these days for mass bulk storage where SSD is not practical for that much.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "recommendations for a 1 tb nvme ssd"

  • 24 days ago
  • 1 point

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/9nhKHx,N7zkcf/

Two options I would suggest. The 660p is the most value oriented SSD but the sabrent rocket SSD is the faster one also for a reasonable price for what you get. I know you mentioned getting dram on the SSD but even without it on a gaming PC it would be hard to tell the difference performance wise. If speed is a big concern then get the sabrent SSD.

One of the top performing NVMe SSDs out there now is the 970 evo from Samsung but the 1TB version runs for $150 USD and I would think the added cost would not be worth it considering the Sabrent is close to it speed wise and for over $30 cheaper.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Air coolers for 3900X/3950X"

  • 24 days ago
  • 1 point

Fryzen... Fry-zen, name sounds like it will fry your ryzen lol. Not saying that it is a terrible cooler just found the name of it ironic!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Used AIO Water Cooling?"

  • 24 days ago
  • 1 point

2nd hand corsair AIO water cooling

I would be wary on 2nd hand AIOs as for both warranty and reliability standpoints. There are a few things I will not buy used, HDDs, AIOs, PSUs. No idea what CPU/case/existing cooler you are using so if you need an upgrade or not I cannot say. Air coolers still offer the best bang for the buck performance wise over AIOs and are much more reliable too. Also a chance you may not even need to upgrade your cooler at all and that £60 would be better spent on new games instead.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ssd help"

  • 24 days ago
  • 1 point

The HP EX920 NVMe SSD, Sabrent Rocket SSD, Intel 660p, to name a few.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 1600 Owner, Time to Upgrade"

  • 24 days ago
  • 1 point

A 1600 at 4.1GHz? Sounds like you did really well on the silicon lotto as many cap out between 3.8 to 4.0 GHz. There will be some gains going to a 3600 but I am not fully convinced that the improvements would yet be worth the cost of doing so. Your 1600 is still 6c12t and at a decent clock rate so it should still be able to handle all modern games well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with a PC Problem"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

Basically you test it by not having it plugged in and verify the PC works that way which you have done. Then you plug that fan control in with no other changes and if the system fails to boot you know it has an issue. It is not like you are adding a power hungry GPU to a super low wattage CPU where the system is demanding too much power. Fan power draw is just a drop in the bucket compared to other things in the system. Basically you have already done the testing.

Now here is another idea, use your motherboard instead of the case fan controller. I checked the manual for your motherboard and it seems you have 3x 4 pin fan headers and in the BIOS (page 28 in manual) you can set the fan control from PWM to Voltage which allows the motherboard to control the speed of a 3 pin fan. You can even set fan curves so the motherboard will automatically adjust fan speeds according to temps. Instead of using a basic manual fan control why not use an automated fan control from the motherboard? Also if you have more than 3 fans you can get cheap 3-pin fan splitters but keep in mind no more than 3 fans split per header.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Mini ITX Cases"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

Would be nice to hear how it turns out!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is it Possible?"

  • 25 days ago
  • 2 points

That motherboard shows "Dual 64Gb/s M.2" so I am willing to bet that it can support 2x NVMe M.2. Worst case scenario is if you have another NVMe SSD you want to use but lack a slot for it you can get a PCIe expansion card for cheap that can support it though I don't think you need to worry about that.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

I live in an area where during summer the temperature can reach up to 43degree (celcius). My cooler always make noises during summer. That's why i'm gonna try my luck on air cooler right now. I don't mind spending a little bit more money. I need recommendation for good air cooler that can perform as good as liquid cooler, but with no risk ofc! Thanks!

Yeah I would suggest this cooler:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

Liquid coolers are not automatically better performers because they use liquid, they still have to deal with thermal dynamics and the biggest bottleneck in heat transfer is actually the air. Both heat sinks and AIOs needs to get the heat to the air and for AIOs it is done at the radiator. The surface area of the fins with the air blowing through it is how heat is transferred to the air and that rate it can transfer is the biggest limiting factor. Water can hold a lot of heat but unless you get the heat out of the water it will keep heating up. With an air cooler it uses heat pipes to move the heat to the fins and then the same process takes place from the fins to the air. The more surface area and air to make contact the faster the heat is expelled from the cooler. 120mm AIOs do not have a ton of surface area for their size which is why tower coolers like the Gammaxx 400 can outperform them cooling wise. There are air coolers out there that outperform the larger water coolers too such as the Noctua NH-D15, NH-u12a, Dark Rock pro 3/4, etc.

Here is hoping your video card is fine. Though considering you have a locked 4 core CPU from Intel it does not generate much heat to start with and for most people the stock cooler that comes with it is enough to keep it within the safe temps. You on the other hand have some really hot summers you have to contend with so I would agree in the value of an aftermarket cooler. A decent budget tower cooler should be ample. Though those ambient temps I would hate, I would be less worried about my PC and more worried about myself not getting heat stroke lol.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Question about video games"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

Here is hoping you get a CPU upgrade for Christmas!

Yeah I used to have a fx 8320 oc to 4.7 GHz and when I upgraded to a 1800x in early 2017 I still had a RX 470 GPU. I had upgraded the GPU since but it was a night and day difference from the FX CPU to the Ryzen even with keeping the same video card.

For the OP I would 100% totally upgrade the CPU first. Only downfall is that you also need a new motherboard and ram too. The part list Test19 posted is actually a rather great value for what you get and if you had to choose between the CPU and GPU then get everything on his list but the GPU. GPUs are easy to upgrade later on anyhow. I can understand his concern about the rx 570 being an older card today but I still think the CPU is the biggest culprit in the drops especially in busy towns

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Impact"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

For gaming 16gb is a good amount of ram to get. For workstation use it depends on what you are doing, if you plan on doing content creation like video editing and such 32gb might be a better amount to target but if it is just microsoft office and internet use then 16gb from gaming is more than ample. Also 16gb of ram is easy to fit in a budget of $1200 especially since price on ram came down.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01

That ram will work well in a gaming PC.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Will this splitter work for these case fans?"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

Yes, those fans are just 3 pin fans and as they are not RGB they don't have a separate wire for that. A simple 3 pin splitter will wort. Only thing is I would avoid having more than 3 fans per motherboard header as they do have a limited amount of power they can provide.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Help with a PC Problem"

  • 25 days ago
  • 2 points

Sounds to me that there is likely a short circuit in the fan controller and the safeguard of the PSU is kicking in.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "RAM Impact"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

The benefits of faster ram vs slower ram does vary from game to game and task to task. Also there are differences between AMD and Intel for scaling too. As of now 3200mhz CL16 ram is a general sweet spot to aim for on price to performance without getting too much into details about CAS latency. You will not achieve any miracles in performance gains by getting the fastest ram out there so that kind of extra money is better spent elsewhere that will have a higher performance gain such as CPU or GPU.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500GB NVME M.2 Suggestions"

  • 25 days ago
  • 1 point

For a HDD just get a 7200 RPM one if you plan on having your less played games installed on it. Just be careful that you are not buying a refurbished or renewed HDD as they have been showing up on the PCPartPicker lists such as this. Go click on the amazon link and it will say it is a renewed drive which is one to avoid.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "500GB NVME M.2 Suggestions"

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

For NVMe SSDs these are the 3 most popular picks:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/7stQzy,6YtQzy,nqc48d/

The Intel 660p is the slowest of those 3 but if you don't mind spending a bit more you can get a 1tb 660p NVMe SSD for ~$94. If you can't stretch the budget then the HP drive is an awesome buy atm.

If it is worth the performance or not depends on what you are doing. If this is a gaming PC then you are not likely going to notice much of a difference in speed between all of these NVMe SSDs. What you will notice however is when you start installing all your games the capacity of the SSD will become far more noticeable so a larger capacity will mean more. If you can stretch the budget ~$24 you can get a 1TB NVMe SSD and that is half a TB worth of more games you can install.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cooler with thermal paste?"

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

I don't think I have ever seen a new Coolermaster cooler come without thermal paste either pre applied, in a squeeze pouch, or in a tube.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Does anybody else feel like they overpaid for their PC, especially during 2017?"

  • 26 days ago
  • 1 point

In my case the extra money paid was worth it due to what it replaced. I used to run a FX 8320 @4.7 GHz and it just simply was not doing the job it needed to anymore. I would not have been able to deal with that system if I decided to withhold upgrading till this year for better prices. The upgrade was out of necessity rather than scratching the upgrade itch. I did save money and not upgrade my GPU at the time of the build (rx 470) and I waited until after the GPU prices dropped before upgrading to a GTX 1070. At least the 470 had acceptable performance to hold off buying until the prices dropped and I still have that GPU in my other HTPC system.

I guess this deals with the old question, "shall I upgrade?". Some people say wait till the next new thing is out and others say get it now. If someone wants to upgrade they can wait but if someone needs to upgrade then just do so. Nature of PCs where better stuff comes out all the time and hardware loses value over time.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "If you could have one super power, what would it be?"

  • 26 days ago
  • 3 points

But there is no cow level.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Velkase Alternatives"

  • 26 days ago
  • 2 points

You can still pre-order that Velkase. If pre ordered they state on their site "Current shipping date estimate: November 29 - December 3". So you will have to wait a couple of weeks for shipping but luckily it isn't that far away.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Mini ITX Cases"

  • 26 days ago
  • 2 points

If super small to fit in a bag easily is a requirement how about this case? https://www.velkase.com/products/velka-3

It will be a bit of work to build and you will need to select some parts around the build and it is currently on pre-order till end of nov to early dec. LTT also did a video on this case to show what it can do: https://youtu.be/tFmb5h1lN-w

You will miss out on the 240mm AIO cooler on it and need a low profile air cooler but a decent 6 or 8 core CPU at stock speeds still performs very well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cooler with thermal paste?"

  • 27 days ago
  • 2 points

99.9% of coolers out there come with thermal paste. If it is a good quality cooler chances are the thermal paste that comes with it will also be a good quality paste too.

Also you didn't mention which cooler outside of "this CPU cooler".

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 27 days ago
  • 1 point

aios r dumb

There are pros and cons between both AIOs and air coolers so they are not inherently dumb. Generally 120mm AIOs offer a poor price to performance as a $20 tower cooler can outperform one but let's say you have a Cooler Master Elite 130 PC case and need a bit stronger cooling than the stock cooler or a super low profile air cooler. A 120mm AIO would actually be the best performing cooler in that setup as said $20 tower cooler cannot fit.

As for larger cases that have the room 240mm or larger AIOs do perform well enough for high end CPUs and people do love the aesthetics of them. You will be paying a premium fee to get a well built one but it is not wrong to spend extra money on aesthetics as long as the PC actually works in the end. Another example is that people buy RGB stuff for their builds all the time and that does not add any performance at all. That is their choice.

Air cooler downfalls is that they tend to take up more room so you would need a case that can accommodate the added girth. Also if a PC needs to be shipped having a Noctua NH-D15 could be disastrous where the weight of the cooler on the motherboard can cause damage with the PC bouncing around in shipping. AIOs does a much better job with this need. Now there are air coolers that show up the higher end AIOs in raw performance and also make less noise. Also with no pump there is less that can possibly break down on an air cooler. Price to performance is another good aspect of air coolers so if the cons don't matter to you then air coolers are something to seriously consider.

Now with all that being said I do prefer having air coolers myself. I even got the Dark Rock Pro 3 for my main rig too and I can't get my 8c16t CPU to hit 60c under max load.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 27 days ago
  • 1 point

If you can't get the cooler serviced/replaced under the manufacturer warranty and need to buy another cooler then I would recommend the following cooler as a replacement. Assuming your PC case can hold a 155mm tower cooler:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hJFPxr/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx400

Can get it for ~$20 USD at the moment and it has some awesome performance when compared to 120mm AIO coolers. If you can get your current cooler replaced/repaired under warranty you can either use that or sell it and get the tower cooler anyhow. I see you have a completed build that has a Corsair SPEC-ALPHA case and if that is the case you are using the tower cooler will fit. Also you have a locked i5 CPU so that tower cooler is still going to be overkill for your cooling needs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Leaky liquid cooler"

  • 27 days ago
  • 1 point

If it is under warranty then RMA it if not then get a new cooler. A budget 120mm fan tower cooler is likely going to out perform it and not cost a lot.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I need a AIO for cheap"

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

AIOs are not better coolers because they are AIOs. Air coolers can perform really well too and if budget is a concern rather than go for a super cheap AIO with a poor build quality I would much rather opt into a much more reliable air cooler that can also do the job for less money. All 3 of those coolers I linked perform a tad lower than a good 240mm AIO that is over double the price of those. Also to mention all 3 of those coolers will blow any of the 120mm AIO coolers away in performance too. Considering you are looking for only a mild OC on a 2700 all 3 of those coolers will have ample thermal headroom over what you are wanting to do.

For AIOs they have many more components and thus many more points of failure. On top of just fans they also have tubing, water coolant, and a pump. Well made AIOs are more than likely to last 5-7 years with no issues at all and a long 5 year warranty on an AIO means the manufacturer is confidant yours will last. When corners are cut to save on production costs quality control, quality of materials and design tolerances tend to be compromised in the name of costs. That is where you find 1 year warranties on AIOs and the cheap ~$80ish AIOs such as this rosewell one. I would rather go for a strong air cooler than deal with the issues people in those reviews had to deal with on that rosewell cooler. The air cooler will also run quieter too!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I need a AIO for cheap"

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

Why does it have to be a liquid cooler? There are air coolers that can achieve that easily and more for the 2700.

Here are a few coolers to check out:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/wjmLrH,8GBrxr,YsHRsY/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Noctua NH-D15 something feels off"

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

that entire cooler is bent out of place, leaning towards the back of the PC. Like something heavy was pushed onto it or the box the PC was in was dropped on the back.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Power supply failure worries"

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Every brand and model of power supply has a chance to fail. Higher quality PSUs have much lower failure rates than cheaper ones. Another thing is that when they fail cheaper PSUs are more likely to take out other hardware when they blow up. Also crap power supplies can have voltage variations which can pop your capacitors. This is why we always recommend a good quality PSU for a pc.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 9 or i9 build for Gaming and 4k upgradability..."

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

He could just go with the r7-3700x and call it a day.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 9 or i9 build for Gaming and 4k upgradability..."

  • 29 days ago
  • 3 points

Keep in mind the higher the resolution the more GPU bound gaming is and less CPU bound. CPU differences I would only really consider between super high refresh rates like 165+ FPS. At that point I would look to an overlcocked Intel CPU at 5.0 GHz. 4k is still mostly as 60hz and to be frank a r5-1600 can pull 60fps off easily assuming the GPU is powerful enough for the resolution needed.

Both the high end AMD and Intel CPUs are powerful CPUs and will game very well.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Desktop Upgrades or a New Laptop for College?"

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

Well it would help to know more about the specs of a laptop you need for your computer sciences course. Depending on the software they might get you to run it would suck if the laptop could not handle it. If it just needs to do basic tasks like internet, MS office, etc then depending on the CPU/ram of your current laptop you might be able to swap the internal HDD for a SSD to make it feel faster than it has ever felt before. If you can get away with that then you can get a SATA 500gb SSD for a good price and might have money left over for a new GPU too.

If there are certain specs you need your school laptop to meet then I suggest looking into a laptop that at least meets those specs. The one for school is going to be more important to have functional than better game FPS at home.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "2700x vs 3700x Streaming"

  • 29 days ago
  • 1 point

I found a 2700x for $130 NEW

Nice deal. the actual performance difference is not huge and as Gilroar stated windows scheduler is still a bit wonky on the 3700x but that is something that can be fixed with future windows updates. Once it is fixed the speed difference is by far smaller than the price difference making the 2700x an awesome deal.

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