My job keeps giving me old laptops they're retiring and I've been having a hoot tearing them apart for HDD/RAM and seeing how absolutely goofy these mobos are.
Man I think I've attempted better cable management about 3 times, and it did improve but...
There's literally one hole to route all cable from your PSU through, nowhere to really tie off at, and the case cables are so short it's literally impossible to tuck them behind and also reach their headers. I could get mine to be a little better, but that calls for me to remove the mobo to reroute and that's just more work than I really wanna do for "better airflow" whose nominal temp gain isn't even worth it.
isn't it just wonderful that unless someone online or you yourself have personally torn a laptop apart, it's almost impossible to figure out what mobo a laptop has, let alone max ram?
Oh I am, thank you.
Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to devs at least making games/software stable for both brands. It's uhh... not fun downloading a new game and then having to spend 2 hours downloading patches/mods and tweaking config for it to run smoothly. Currently fighting FNV right now and I'm about ready to give up, every single solution I've tried has absolutely failed.
Oh yeah. I'm aware they have their shortcomings, but it really just seems like most of the stereotypical "AMD" problems are really Primarily from software/games intentionally optimizing for intel/nvidia
ahhh I see
I was torn between getting a 2700 and the 3600, decided that I'd rather have the latest CPU with less but faster cores.
As much as I'm sure intel/nvidia make great components... man that stuff is just outta my budget. Really the only complaint I have there, is that the vaaaaast majority of older games were optimized for Nvidia architecture, so certain titles get pretty bad camera stutter that takes a lot tweaking to remove.
So far I've had zero problems with the Seagate PSU, but I'll let ya know if I experience any errors.
lol thank you.
Is that a push/pull right through the cpu cooler out the exhaust fan?
also absolutely love the noctua
I see you also ran into the problem of "where am I supposed to route my cables" on that case.
Really the only nitpicking I could possibly do is not having your OS on a separate SSD, but that's just preference.
Solid build man, makes me wish I had upped my budget a few $100 when I build mine.
"For aesthetic purposes"
oh poor Noctua, the sales they could have if they'd invest just a little bit of money in aesthetics.
That's... incredibly impressive, a waterloop for a first build is quite the undertaking.
How uhh, how on Earth did you afford all this as a teenager?
Can vouch for that.
The MSI rx570 8gb is an incredibly solid budget card in every aspect.
Or if anything, putting the outtake fan on the front for intake.
Them blowers really aren't the greatest in my opinion, and I own an rx5700 as well.
I wouldn't be able to give ya numbers, but with 2 fans, my buddy's PC stays quite comfortable with the stock cooler.
Only thing I would recommend is getting some fans, even cheap ones, into that case.
Take it to an apple store just to watch their tech's heads explode
Absolutely agree, this is incredibly aesthetically pleasing.
The Ryzen 7 2700 is the best thing that ever happened to budget builders
I like having the possibility of those upgrades but like...
Man I play games and use adobe illustrator lol
Probably not gonna be upgrading for a long time but man...
You guys all make super valid points, I legitimately just need one pcie slot, an M2 for my OS.
The rest of my atx board is pointless.
Not to step on the dude's toes. But I put together a PC for my buddy a month ago using a 5 3600 an a 450 chipset mobo and it started up without any flashing.
My bad, I was incorrect. That's only if you have a quad channel CPU, having dual channel and 2 2x8 sticks is just fine lol.
Ahh my mistake, read the correct info, just interpreted wrong.
for dual channel you can run 2 2x8 sticks.
It is insane to me, that budget level components are enough to do almost anything these days, technology is wonderful.
Just built my friend's pc who had the exact same CPU/Mobo. I was really worried about the BIOS thing, especially since I built my first pc like 2 weeks earlier, and even bought a more expensive 570 chipset mobo to avoid the situation even happening.
**** booted up first try, I feel like that BIOS thing was more so erring on the edge of caution from manufacturers.
I think what I read was "ehhhhh you'll be ok... probably."
I think it was more so not using matched sets but who knows lol
AutoCAD is resource intensive, but compared to other CAD programs like SWx, Revit, etc it's pretty light.
I am moderately concerned that he used two 2x8 sets instead of one 4x8/2x16 set though. I could definitely be misinformed, but everything I've read has said something about that not really being a good idea for longevity of a build.
Yeah you're probably gonna be just fine using the stock cpu cooler lol
I'm relatively new to PC building so I could be wrong, but isn't typically frowned upon to use 2 2x8 sets?
gimme a sec
The only reason I have RGB anything, is because through budget constraints/sales they were the most economical choices.
I'd say do some cable management but man, budget cases do not give you nearly enough length on the stock case fan cables to reach sometimes, I've cables going across because there literally wasn't enough room to tuck behind and still reach the headers.
1660ti is better than the 8gb rx570.
But the rx570 packs a lot of power at it's price point, definitely one of the best "cheap" GPU's. I would definitely choose it over the similarly priced 3gb 1060.
Worried about dust at all?
Deffffinitely get at least one fan in there man.
Just make sure you get a solid graphics card and 16gb ram. and by solid, I mean... entry level cards these days still have insane performance, a 1060ti would be more than sufficient, and ram is ram, just make sure it's 16gb.
I wanna say the 2600x is marginally faster, and comes with a slightly better CPU cooler, same with the difference between the 3600X and the 3600. I would honestly recommend just getting the 2600, save that bit of cash and buy an extra case fan if you're worried about it. Unless you're trying to squeeze every bit of performance out of your CPU and overclock(which isn't really necessary for CAD work tbh), the stock cooler on the 2600 will be more than sufficient.