Here is something that will make it just fine. Pick the cheapest KB and mouse you can find to round the build up:
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Orion - it's the 430 White (80+).
Cicero - I'll have a look at that, thanks.
I have the RAM working indeed at 2993MHz. However I had to leave the CPU on default settings to do that. Any bump in CPU speed made the system crash either directly or during stress test. I'm fairly sure I will need to up the voltage as well (default is somewhere around 1.18something). However this is already a huge improvement over my previous machine that I don't feel yet the need to squeeze the last drop of performance.
They will have to roll out the other versions of the Coffee Lake motherboards. Right now only the top level Z370 ones are on market. If you choose a locked CPU, you should also have a cheaper B or H version.
As for any surprises... we can only wait and see.
With your budget it might be better to get a second hand office machine from ebay (should find an i5 second to fourth gen with 8GB of RAM below £200). They come with Windows license too (even if it is Win7, you can use the key to upgrade to Win10). Add a 1050Ti and you're covered.
Buying a Skylake unlocked at this moment is a waste of money. The price for Coffee Lake is about the same and you get 2 extra cores. Let me see what I can find available at this moment.
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Edit: Here is an updated build that will give you more performance for less money.
For gaming only the best value at the moment is the new Coffee Lake platform (provided you can find the CPU on stock :P )
Here's something I propose as a starting point:
Left a bit of a wiggle room if what I selected is not to your liking. Or you can add a 2TB 7200rpm HDD for storing all the games - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006
Looks fairly balanced to me. Personally I would have probably taken the 3GB version and probably put the difference in pushing for 16GB of RAM.
It's your money, you can do what you want with them :)
Sorry for the late reply, I was away these days.
Here is an updated list that will give you similar performance while saving a good deal of money.
You should be able to overclock the 1700 on the stock cooler to 3.7GHz. I haven't overclocked mine yet, cause I need it for my work and I don't have time to run stability tests. But all major tech tubers say it's doable. To go further, the performance gained is minimal while the cost of doing it (the water cooling) is way too much in my opinion. You can choose to do it at a later time if 3.7GHz is not enough for you.
If you keep an eye on the main retailers, they do bring new units every now and then
I think something like this will give you a lot better performance and upgrade options:
Have a look at this build:
For less than $100 extra, you get two extra cores in the CPU. Plus the 1070Ti is a marketing gimminck. That card should not exist. You can get the 1080 for just pocket change extra.
Of course, the main problem with Coffee Lake is availability.
Go for the Coffee Lake platform, what you have there is now 2 gen old without being discounted too much.
Building any new PC with the G4560 today is a waste of money. The performance is too low compared to what is already available or coming) If you are really needing for cash, get a refurbished office machine with a second or third gen i5, add the 1050Ti and you will get at least the same performance for a lot less money.
On that platform I don't think it matters that much the speed difference. Get more of what you have already.
Looks nice to me
For high FPS you should go for Coffee Lake. You can't boost Ryzen chips enough to keep up at 165Hz, as far as I've seen on main techtuber channels. Also WD Black are not really worth the extra money over the Blue.
Unless you are dying to start gaming ASAP, you would be better served to look for a Coffee Lake combo. The price difference is not that large, but the performance one is a lot larger.
If you are not in a hurry, wait a bit for Coffee Lake to come back on stock. The price difference is not that large but the performance boost from those 2 extra cores will help you a lot.
Are you planing to do other things than gaming? Do you plan to overclock? Do content creation or other non-gaming activities? Your build is a bit unbalanced, but without knowing the purpose, it's hard to suggest one thing or another. Here's a few highlights
For anything more, you need to give more details about the purpose of that build.
I think your best option would be to get a refurbished 2nd or 3rd gen Dell tower from eBay. Take advantage of the fact UK is still in the EU. You can find them for less than 200 euro - not sure how much postage is to Greece. All you have to do is slap a 1050Ti and (eventually, for your peace of mind), change the PSU.
Here's a suitable search query:
On the other hand, if you prefer new parts, Amazon UK is your best bet again.
Something like this should serve you well enough as a starting point:
At this price range you will get a lot more bang for your buck by getting a used office machine like a Dell. Make sure to search for a full tower second or third gen i5 with 8GB of RAM - should be around $100-$200. Slap the 1050Ti and you have just as good for half the price. They usually come with a genuine license of Windows 7 or 10 and you can still upgrade for free to Win10 with a valid Win7 key.
If you don't want to overclock and you prefer Ryzen, it might be better to go with the 1600X instead of the 1600. It has higher clocks out of the box, but it's a bit more expensive and you need to buy a separate cooler.
Howdy! Here is something that would give you maximum gaming performance for your budget range. Is a little bit over your limit (£30 more) but it should give you plenty of bang.
For something cheaper and a bit more versatile, you can go with the Ryzen platform:
If you're swapping between a lot of games, you might consider adding later a 1TB or 2TB 7200rpm HDD for storage.
You can get a lot more performance for that price range. If all you want to do is gaming, than the new Coffee Lake series is the best option. I also bumped your power supply because this platform is a bit more power hungry. You might also want a few days for the new Cooler Master MasterWatt series to be launched (on 25) - here's a nice pre-launch review of the 450W unit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_5f2mtf1Q0
Here is the build alternative I am proposing:
No... stock cooler fits with the standard mounting
You can get the Ryzen5 1600 for the price of the 1500X and the Evo. The Wraith Spire cooler is easily on par with most aftermarket coolers and you won't need anything better unless you aim for overclocking over 3.7GHz. You might be able to save a few more bucks by going with a 3GB version of the 1060. Performance difference is only about 10% and the 1060 GPU can't really take advantage of the full 6GB of VRAM anyway. Nothing wrong with the 6GB version though.
Other than that everything looks OK to me.
You can't be too picky on things you use to win your meal ticket. In the end time is money.
I'd say to stay away from the U processors. Mobile CPUs are already gutted to get lower power consumption levels. No need to shoot yourself in the foot even more.
Might be a good idea to check some online reviews sites like the ones below. It might give you tips to look in directions you didn't even consider before.
Ideally, if you can shoulder the bill, looking for a dedicated workstation laptop from Dell or Lenovo might be the best solution in the long term, as they don't cater to gaming trends and are optimized for max. performance. But it also depends on the type of work you do.
$450 for a 1070 is still too much in my opinion. For only $50 more you can get a 1080.
Other than that, I can see nothing wrong.
For this price range (and wanting Intel), you might get better bang for your buck with a refurbished office machine from eBay ($100 - $150 for a second gen i5-2400). Slap a GTX 1050Ti inside and you get a gaming PC for less than $300.
I have a lenovo ThinkPad x230. Great little machine, if you can live with a small display. Solid build, can take a beating and not overly heavy. You can find them on eBay for about 200GBP - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?Memory=8GB&_sop=12&_sacat=177&_nkw=Thinkpad%20x230&_dcat=177
When I get some money I will replace the HDD with an SSD and it will be even better.
Of the three you selected, I would say go to the i7/16GB one (second in the list). You can't upgrade a laptop like you would a desktop and if you are going to rue the day you decided to save a few bucks.
If you are a student, try and find a program that will give you discounts. If you code for a living, then write it down as an expense and go as high as you can.
Do you really need much mobility? Lighter laptops usually have lower powered components.
Here's a nice guide on how to search for one on eBay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mJOsjB-mo Is a bit old, but the thinking process is the same.
If you are really tight on money, you get a lot better deal buying a refurbished i5 machine from eBay. Look for a full tower one from a reputable seller. Second gen i5-2400 with 8GB of RAM are around $100-$150, add a 1050Ti for another $150 and you get the same (or better) gaming performance as the Ryzen 3 build. Best to avoid small form factor ones, as they can be a lot more tricky to customize.
I have no idea what sort of computing power is needed for deep learning. Does it need more CPU? Or GPU like crypto mining? Without that sort of info we can't help much. And I doubt may people will drop everything to do research in your place :P
Overall it looks solid to me. Unless you play a single game only, you will want to add some more storage - something like 1TB, 2TB or 4TB HDD.
As an alternative, you could wait a bit more for CoffeeLake to launch in a few days. It might be worth starting on the new platform.
No problem. I am more of a cat person, but I do find corgis to be awesome dogs.
As for the name - it is Cogitator. This is how computers are called in Warhammer 40K. If the drop of my Latin knowledge still holds true, it means "Logic Engine" or "Thinking Machine".
I can play World of Tanks and World of Warships over 75fps at max details. Now, I just put the machine together so I didn't run too many test. I am planning to do that over the next few days. But overall I have no problem at 1080p with High or Very High settings so far.
I second that...
Ryzen 5 is a much better option than any i5 at the moment. Here's what you can get for $800 and it beats the **** out of any similar Intel build:
It's a free world, just keep in mind some ports are never meant to connect. ;)
I have been using a Dell UltraSharp for about four years and I love it so far. Best investment I made in a monitor.
You can get a lot better drives than that WD Red. Toshiba X300 has 5TB at 7200rpm for about the same price and the benchmarks are great http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Toshiba-X300-5TB/Rating/3593
Keep the unit on the table, not on the floor. It will help keep most of the hair out of it. If you have nothing else, use a hair drier on cold to blow the inside every couple of weeks. Otherwise you can get one of these - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S7CH6FK/ I got one and it works wonders.
You will get a lot better performance with a Ryzen 3 build (and better upgrade options down the line):
Here is a $500 gaming build without Windows:
If you need Windows included, you will have to cut down to something like this:
The entire YouTube is full of builds in this case. Fractal Design went a bit overboard with the presentation :) That being said, the case looks great.
The R7 360 is roughly equivalent of the old 750Ti. Get only 8GB of RAM and upgrade to a 1050 or 1050Ti instead. With a few minor tweaks you can get this:
As an alternative, if you don't want to bother about putting the PC together yourself, if you want system warranty, get this prebuilt Acer Aspire from Newegg and slap a 1050 or 1050Ti inside. In the unlikely case something goes wrong, you can just use your warranty and have less headaches.