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Entry Level Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

Description

CPU

Our CPU of choice for this budget is the Intel Pentium G4560. While it features only two cores, the G4560 also employs hyperthreading to help close the gap between it and a 4-core i5. Hyperthreading adds an additional logical core for each physical core, which is handy for streaming, video editing, and multi-tasking CPU-intensive tasks. The G4560 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

Due to stock and availability concerns, we have changed this iteration of the guide to include both the G4560 (3.5GHz) and its slightly faster brother, the G4600 (3.6GHZ). The G4560 tends to have excellent price/performance ratio, but it also sells out frequently. In the cases where it is sold out, the G4600 will be the CPU shown on the list automatically.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced mATX motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for B250 chipsets and 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build. The motherboards are also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

Memory

A parametric filter is being applied to choose the best priced 2x4GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications. With this selection, we have space on the motherboards for 2 more sticks of RAM, leaving room for future expansion.

Storage

We're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 2TB mechanical drive. Unfortunately, with the rising cost of NAND, in addition to the rising cost of video cards due to the current mining craze, we've had to cut out the SSD in order to keep this build more budget-friendly. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or add an SSD to fit yours.

GPU

Normally we would recommend the AMD RX 570 at this price point. Unfortunately, due to a recent surge in cryptocurrency mining, there is an extremely low availability of several video cards that would be appropriate at this price point. As a replacement, we suggest using the Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced GTX 1050 Ti which will be powerful enough for most AAA games.

When video card stock and availability normalizes again, we will make sure to update our guides as appropriate to reflect the change in the market.

Case

The Corsair Carbide Series Spec-04 is a fairly compact ATX mid-tower that doesn't take up a ton of room but gives you plenty of room to work in when building. It features a number of cable management holes, 3x 3.5" bays, 2x 2.5" bays, and a built-in dust filter that you can remove for easier cleaning. It also includes 1x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0 ports on the front panel, along with front 120mm LED fan.

If black and red isn't your thing, you can tone it down with the black and gray version or go bold with black and yellow.

Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.


Video

To watch a build very similar to this in action, check out our video and blog post here!

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Estimated Wattage: 214W
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Motherboard
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  • Chipset: Intel B250
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
  • RAM Type: DDR4
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Memory
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  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
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Storage
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  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
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  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
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Spraggly 8 points 23 days ago

I'm looking to play most recent games (Just Cause 3, Fallout 4, potentially Destiny 2, etc) in 1080p at 60FPS, at at least console settings. Would this build be able to achieve that for me?

William12345 4 points 22 days ago

OF COURSE!

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 3 points 21 days ago

Yes. I have the same system (G4560 and 1050 Ti) and it runs great!

flyingfajitas 2 points 21 days ago

Just Cause 3 has a RAM cannibalization issue, 16GB would be better. That said, this is perfect to hit 1080p at 45-60 fps on High-Ultra in any title.

Spraggly 1 point 20 days ago

Awesome, thank you!

KristopherC 2 points 18 days ago

Yes it will. The chances are you'll be able to do that at medium and high settings in almost any game in existence right now. I think even the 950 should be able to do that.

ForsakenKlarity 1 point 9 days ago

Hey guys if i change the cpu to a "AMD - ryzen 5 1600" do you think it would work well? can it run witcher 3, skyrim overwatch and maybe gta at high or medium settings?

Dhaneshen 1 point 7 days ago

if youre going to get a 1600, upgrade the gpu to a rx 580 or 1060, that is an excellent system and can to ultra 1080p, the 1050ti will struggle just a tad with witcher 3, but will breeze by the other 3.

charlesdegaulle 7 points 11 days ago

so does anybody know when the whole ethereum mining craze will die down to the point where graphics card prices will normalize again? i'm not gonna be building a pc for a while anyway but I was just if anybody knew anything about it.

somenig 3 points 11 days ago

I've been asking this question up and down for about a month and a half. Nobody really knows. The best thing you can do is visit sites like Newegg and B&H, search the GPUs you've got your eye on, and sign up for auto-notifications.

The way it's looking now, it doesn't seem like you're going to get a 1060 6gb (which was previously recommended for this build) for under $270. Amazon has it on backorder and will get more towards the end of July, and newegg WAS selling this guy for $280 (with free rocket league) about 5-6 hours ago. It is now $430 because newegg sold out and other sellers list that price.

The point being this: you have to have a bit of luck, set up alerts, search frequently, and be an informed buyer.

heeteshbuild 2 points 10 days ago

No one can really say. Time only will tell. I myself am frustrated because of the increase of the mid-end gaming cards. Most gamers are also not happy about this increase in price.

waffle911 1 Build 2 points 10 days ago

Some have speculated the recent crash and future uncertainty could result in a flood of used cards and drop in demand for new ones within about three months. Only time will tell.

stoley777 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

yeah coin stuff is hard to predict, but I'd put money on the flood of used cards, someone just needs to put some thought into refurbishing / testing services and they could make a good penny buying the used ones

SoundBytes 2 points 8 days ago

Video Card makers are soon releasing video cards with 0 outputs (Headless). These cards will be dedicated to suit the needs of crypto miners. I think once you see these cards out on the open market, the prices will start to drop again..

Jnss98b 1 point 2 days ago

It's hard to predict. I'm actually surprised about people using mid-end cards to mine, didn't know they were that capable. All we can do now is just wait for it to cool down.

wanna_build_a_pc_ireland 1 point 18 hours ago

the gpus in ireland (not sure about the rest of europe) are really cheap a msi nividia geforce gtx 1050 2048GB gddr5 is only 166 euros or 193 dollars. go to custompcparts.ie and maybe they will ship to the us

Exfinite_ 2 points 23 days ago

Awesome build, but the color scheme would be way off. Red and black case w/ blue ram and stock cooler w/ blue sticker?

Other than that, it's good for the price.

goforthegusto 2 points 21 days ago

Case could also easily be swapped out with any other compatible case.

Exfinite_ 1 point 14 days ago

I realize that. However, if it were me, I'd pick a case that went along with the chosen color scheme before I made a Build Guide on it, that's all.

goforthegusto 1 point 13 days ago

True.

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somenig 2 points 22 days ago

Hey ThoughtA, I've been keeping an eye on this guide for about a month (since entry 13), waiting and saving up money to build a comp. Trying to put one together with an affordable but powerful GPU is pretty tough considering all the market changes. That being said, I watched the guide go from recommending a RX 570 to GTX 1060 to a GTX 1050 Ti. What can you say about the performance drop one would expect to see, settling from a 1060 to 1050 Ti?

I'm looking to play recent/modern games such as: Shadow of Mordor, MA: Andromeda, the Batman Arkham series, The Witcher 3, Spec Ops: The Line, and so on, at high to ultra settings @1080p. Also would like to play upcoming games (ex: Spiderman) at a good fps with at least high settings. Would I have any problems with those games?

And lastly, I've been looking for some reviews and comparisons on the RX 560 4gb which is currently selling for ~140 USD, and not finding much, can you comment on how it compares to some of the GPU's you've previously recommended?

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 3 points 21 days ago

The 1060 pr the RX 570 would be the best video cards for that. The 1050 Ti is also a relly really good card but you can't run ALL games on ultra. That being said: I played some Wolfenstein the new order today and i got 60 FPPS at ultra. 1060 6GB > 570 > 1050

somenig 1 point 21 days ago

Thanks for that. Any comment on the RX 560? I use this as well as benchmark comparisons to gauge whether not specific cards have comparative performance and am a bit dismayed about the 1050 Ti being in a lower tier. Do you guys agree with this list? Also, does anyone know whether or not the RX 570 and GTX 1060 will be restocked? Would you recommend waiting to get the preferred cards, since the GPU is arguably the most important component for a gaming rig?

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 2 points 21 days ago

The 1050 Ti is better than the rx 560. But yeah: i might wait until the prices have gone down and they are in stock again. Prices right now are waaaay too high. And as said: the 1050 Ti is still a very good card. But if you wait you might have more options. A RX 570 or a GTX 1060 6GB would be the best choices.

Mansive 1 point 17 days ago

ThoughtA has stated in this guide that the only reason why he replaced the RX 570/GTX 1060 is because their prices have been driven up more than twofold due to cryptocurrency miners purchasing many of the cards. As a result, the next best graphics card is the GTX 1050 whose price has not skyrocketed.

angrygorrila1 2 points 22 days ago

Could I swap the pentium for i3? If so what i3 would be compatible with this build.

ThoughtA staff submitter 6 points 21 days ago

If you make the swap to a Kaby Lake i3, it'll be compatible, but I wouldn't recommend it for most uses.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 4 points 21 days ago

The i3 is useless. the Pentium gives very similar performance but costs half as much. if you do heavy stuff the pentium is only around 10 % slower and if the CPU is under load they perform the same. an i3 would be compatible but it is not a smart move.

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

True. I will chose the Pentium G4560 over the i3 7th gen intel any day.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

But i've heard that Intel isnt really happy that the G4560 is "killing" the i3 line. check out RandomGaminginHD latest video. He talks about it.

goforthegusto 2 points 11 days ago

Nope. Intel has confirmed that the g4560 is sticking around.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

sweet! that would have been a **** move! Cuz the G4560 just has THE best Value rn

heeteshbuild 2 points 11 days ago

Yes, that is true. The budget gamers are sure loving the Intel G4560. After all, it is only about 10% slower than the Intel i3 series, most notably the i3 7100. It is clear which one is the obvious choice for price to performance ratio. xD

Drekloe 2 points 21 days ago

i3 7100, but it's not worth it tbh

Ismael2512 2 points 21 days ago

Hey, I'm looking to get a new gaming pc to play rust smoothly at normal graphics, would this computer be able to handle that?

mckboy 2 points 21 days ago

Exact same question. I can't play it anymore on my 2010 Macbook Pro, and I feel like a total dumbass here trying to figure it out. I found this:

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=9210&game=Rust

Drekloe 1 point 20 days ago

I BELIEVE this system could run rust on lower graphics settings at 60 fps

Drekloe 1 point 21 days ago

what are "normal graphics"?

goforthegusto 2 points 21 days ago

I'm guessing the normal or high graphics preset?

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

medium or high

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pumarocks 2 points 20 days ago

Is the pentium the same as the core i3 7100. And could the pentium run city skylines since it requires lots of CPU

Sorry if I sound like a noob

henrath 3 points 20 days ago

City Skylines might be a problem with a 2c/4t CPU as i5s can be maxed out by it. If you can afford a Ryzen 5 CPU it should perform better.

heeteshbuild 2 points 12 days ago

It should be able to run Cities: Skyline as long as you have turned down setting that relates the CPU. That being said, they are setting that the CPU handles which would in turn cause an improved performance.

lamesjomas 2 points 20 days ago

Looking to build my first PC, just wondering what adding an SSD would grant?

frito 3 Builds 3 points 20 days ago

Higher boot speeds and loading speeds on every application. Very much worth it

lamesjomas 1 point 19 days ago

Cheers! Any suggestions of an SSD that would go well with this build?

Natester15 1 Build -5 points 19 days ago

From someone that has both? I wouldnt get it. its way too expensive, especially if your build is sub 500$ I'd take the money and spend it on more name brand RAM/PSU. I got a PNY 120GB SSD on Prime day sale last year for like 40 bucks, but can't tell a difference in game loading times compared to a 7200RPM HDD. 10/10 money better spent in just more reliable parts here and there! idk like maybe get a not pentium processor instead? Basically I only got SSD because of hype and it was a good deal. I could've gotten another TB of HDD, but the hype got meh.

In the coming years SSD will slowly replace HDD, but 1TB 7200 RPM HDD is only 50$, whereas 240GB of quality SSD is over 100$. I would just wait and do this build that will get you plenty far into the next 2 years, then plan on doing a dream build with a budget of 1000-1500$ with all SSD maybe! (by that point)

**To clarify, since i just looked around, SSD has gone down in price just a little bit. However, I just don't see justifying 80$ on 120GB of SSD without spending 5$ more to get Corsair Vengence DDR3 RAM...

Ignight 1 point 11 days ago

You mean 50-60$.....

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KristopherC 1 point 18 days ago

It would give you faster load times, and also 2 frames more every second in games. An SSD is also less likely to break. If you're on a budget of $500 or less, I'd recommend not getting one right away.

heeteshbuild 2 points 12 days ago

SSD doesn't change FPS in-game in away way. It will neither increase or decrease FPS but will only load the game faster than a typical 7200 RPM HDD.

KristopherC 1 point 9 days ago

I've seen more than one thing show that you gain a frame or 2 with an ssd.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 9 days ago

Who are you listening to then? The only thing that an SSD will offer, for the most part, are INCREDIBLY faster sequential read and write speeds. You can prove me wrong, but provide links to where you are getting the notion that SSD's will provide an extra 2 FPS in games. Your games will load faster, in things like loading screens and start-ups.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 2 days ago

Where an SSD could potentially help is during area transitions in some games, where framerate sometimes takes a dip while the system is trying to load new assets. It's a momentary drop, but a potentially noticeable one during gameplay, and something that will skew a benchmark's minimum and average framerate results. An edge case to be sure, but I'm sure one could find/produce data to support it.

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FallenHox 2 points 11 days ago

can I use windows 7 for this pc ?

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

I don't see why not.

EstDaniel 1 point 9 days ago

Yes, you can.

jarick101 2 points 7 days ago

is this system VR ready, or need a better processor ?

adaniel 1 point 3 days ago

I'm in no way an expert but I don't see any way you're going to get a VR ready build for $500.

evancase12 1 Build 1 point 17 hours ago

I did!

ShadowofElements 1 point 11 hours ago

Is it a build similar to this one?

n1k0la1 2 points 7 days ago

Could anyone let me know an affordable SSD to substitute into this build at a pretty reasonable price?

MonkDad 1 point 3 days ago

ive seen some Samsung SSDs for less than $100. Depends how large a drive space you want though

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 2 days ago

SSDs have seen a price upswing recently; mediocre drives are selling for what you used to be able to get good ones for (presuming the good ones were on sale). However, performance differences are typically slight, and not generally noticeable unless you use lots of different drives side-by-side.

240 GB is the generally accepted minimum for a single-drive system, though you'll probably want 480+ GB if that's the case.

With MLC-based drives disappearing and/or becoming expensive, just grab whatever is priced best at purchase time (unless you can afford something like the Mushkin Reactor or PNY CS2211)

LinksDad 1 point 23 days ago

What happened to all the comments? And has the build changed in the last couple days?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 23 days ago

The build just changed a couple hours ago. If you check the sidebar on the left, you'll see there's a revision history. Click through those will show each revision's comments.

LinksDad 2 points 23 days ago

Ok. Thank you. It just threw me off because I have already ordered most of the parts for this build.

ShadowofElements 1 point 11 hours ago

I would recommend saving up the full amount before buying parts, unless you are buying them very close to each other. Individual components can become outdated rather quickly.

justustice 1 point 23 days ago

what sort of frames could this get on CSGO?

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 3 points 21 days ago

around 200

William12345 1 point 22 days ago

more than 60 fps

Drekloe 1 point 22 days ago

Yesss, i'm going to build soon and you come through, thanks man.

nightinthebay 1 point 22 days ago

Incredibly stupid question coming though it says its 214 watts what does that mean does that mean is it the amount of power that it can take in or what?

Drekloe 3 points 21 days ago

it's the calculated average of the amount of watts the system will take up

nightinthebay 1 point 20 days ago

Thanks

pumarocks 1 point 22 days ago

Is this a console killer

goforthegusto 4 points 22 days ago

Definitely!

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 4 points 21 days ago

Hell yes

James9LG 1 point 22 days ago

There might be something I'm missing (probably, because I'm relatively new to this) but this site says that something like crucial ram is cheaper than the ram listed here and also is one stick, meaning that it also leaves more room for ram slots. Is it not compatible with the motherboard or something?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 22 days ago

The parametric filter is selecting for dual stick kits only, as a single stick wouldn't benefit from the dual channel memory controller, and dual channel tech is seeing some usefulness these days.

James9LG 1 point 22 days ago

ok, I somewhat get that

tamos1214 1 point 21 days ago

I am just some person looking to play these four games: Squad, Cities Skylines, Arma, and Verdun. Will these games run smoothly?

Drekloe 1 point 21 days ago

Squad: No Cities Skylines: Yes Arma: No Verdun: Yes

tamos1214 1 point 21 days ago

Thanks. Whats the cheapest one to get to run Squad?

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 2 points 21 days ago

You might have to get a better CPU. Like a ryzen 5 1600x or something.

Impozer 1 point 19 days ago

Can this PC run Dark Souls 3 and H1Z1 King of the hill?

J3LLY 1 point 19 days ago

Even my old Phenom II X4 955 (@4.2Ghz) is able to run H1Z1 King of the kill. :P

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 19 days ago

Yeah i think so. H1Z1 for sure. Also pretty sure Dark souls. ya might have to turn down the settings a bit though. It'll still look nicer than on console

Drekloe 1 point 20 days ago

no problem :)

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Not sure about Squad, but it will run on the rest quite smoothly. As someone with experience, you will be getting average 40 fps in Arma 3 on high ingame in multiplayer servers. This is decent considering that servers such as KOTH have 60 players in them. Cities: Skyline will run properly and smooth if you turn down settings that the CPU controls.

Cwheeless15 1 point 21 days ago

What case could I swap out for this? Anything ATX?

mrkawaiikun 1 point 10 days ago

I would recommend the Rosewill Galaxy-02 ATX Case for $35 on Amazon. It matches the Blue and Black scheme of the build with it's front fan LED and comes included with 3 case fans pre-installed! https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HNK7YJ/rosewill-case-galaxy02

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Mattman360 1 point 20 days ago

Hey, looking to upgrade from console to pc, just wondering if this could handle 4K and if so what frames per second it would run at? Thanks and sorry if I sound stupid I'm new to this kind of thing.

Edit: also I have seen some comments talking about a cheaper compatible case, just wondering if someone could name one for me.

Drekloe 3 points 20 days ago

4k? no way

TristanKing 3 points 19 days ago

This wont run at "4k" in demanding games. Games like Minecraft, CSGO and LOL will run at 4k at 30-60fps or so.

However if you're comparing this to something like the Xbox One X, swap out the GPU for a GTX 1060 or RX 580 and it will perform the same. Any games that the Xbox One X can run in 4k, that would be able to too.

Don't try and use a PC at this budget for 4k though, your games will look miles better at high settings and a solid 60fps rather than turning everything else down and struggling for decent fps at a higher resolution. Luckily building a PC will allow you to run at whatever resolution/settings you like.

DomoJr 1 point 20 days ago

Yeah i'm looking for a cheaper case too

Drekloe 1 point 20 days ago
nicholas1212 1 point 20 days ago

i am looking for a pc that can support GTA 5 with mods, colony survival Player unknowns battle grounds and maybe some other small steam games. will this have enough fps to support all of those games along with enough data?

TristanKing 1 point 19 days ago

Yes.

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

More than enough. GTA 5 and most games will run decent on it at around 40-60 fps on high to ultra.

Oplokboy89 1 point 20 days ago

Hello, can this build play Rust, Gta5 and PUBg?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Yes, it absolutely can. Rust will run beautifully with some settings turned down. GTA 5 will run gorgeous at high settings.

Korbben21 1 point 20 days ago

For what amounts to about $5 currently, should I go with the 4600? Or is there something about the 4560 that would make it a better choice for a gaming PC?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4600-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4560/3894vs3892 In the above benchmark score, there is not much of a difference apart from the Pentium G4560 having Intel HD Graphics 610 and the Pentium G4600 having Intel HD Graphics HD 630. This should matter as long as you are sure you will be having a decent GPU as the integrated graphics on board will be neglected whilst gaming. That being said, there is only about a 4% increase performance for the Pentium G4600 when compared to the G4560.

Korbben21 1 point 12 days ago

Thanks for the reply! I actually went ahead with the g4560 since I was able to snag it for about $56 bucks on Jet.

heeteshbuild 1 point 11 days ago

Good choice. I myself would have gone with the Pentium G4560. This Pentium is truly amazing for its price. Well good luck with your build. Enjoy it!

OverlordMakar 1 point 20 days ago

I am looking to build a pc almost exactly like this one. I have a very tight budget. Do you think I should go for the gtx 1050ti or make some small budget cuts and go for the gtx 1060 3gb. I have no room to go for the 6gb version so its either the 1060 or 150ti sc.

TristanKing 1 point 19 days ago

If you want max gaming performance, go with the GTX 1060. Although you may want to think about an upgrade path.

Maybe go for an i5 instead, since GPUs have larger performance leaps each generation, and an i5 will allow you to comfortably upgrade your GPU in a year or two to something a lot more powerful for the same price, and will probably even allow for another comfortable upgrade a couple of years after that too.

somenig 1 point 11 days ago

I say definitely go with the 1060 3gb because I've also looked into the pros and cons of having one or the other. the 1060 is head and shoulders above the 1050ti in terms of performance, but unfortunately also in price. If your budget is really tight, the 1050ti will do since the two cards are honestly still comparable. At the current market prices, the 1050ti is about $100 cheaper.

KevinIsPC 1 point 20 days ago

Can i ask, will this be capable of running games that require a decent cpu? Play some games for e.g CSGO, League Of Legends, at ultra. And the most important is, is it possible to run players battleground at decent settings? This will be my first gaming pc so i need to know.

supervegeta216 1 point 20 days ago

im sure it will run csgo and lol nicely, but PUBG isn't very well optimized so I'm not sure if you will get the frames you want at decent settings

Marcoux1 1 point 19 days ago

Maybe obvious question but will this be able to run PUBG (player unknown battle grounds) at 1080p 60fps at high settings in its current state?

Edit - High settings aren't a must for me just my current crap pc can barely run the game on very low so even medium or low would work for me

KevinMoondust 2 Builds 1 point 19 days ago

Zalman Z1 Plus case, EVGA 430W 80PLUS White PSU, and a H110 (Some manufacturers are offering them with the BIOS already updated for KabyLake) board and you can save some cash. With that headroom, replace HDD for a 250GB M.2 WD Green SSD or Samsung 850 EVO SATA. There, done. A shame the RX470/570 prices are thru the roof at this point in time, but oh well; hoping the bubble burst sooner rather than later.

Dreckley 1 point 19 days ago

Would switching the pentium out for an intel i-5 cause any problems?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

No, it will not as long as you chose a 7th generation intel i5 or you can perform a bios update on your motherboard if it doesn't support 7th gen given that it supports 6th gen intel processors.

Dreghan 1 point 19 days ago

Is this build good for strategy games like Hearts of Iron 4 and Europa Universalis IV?

heeteshbuild 2 points 12 days ago

This build would be overkill for these game and you would be running 60 FPS+ guaranteed at all the time. This PC is more than enough for strategy games.

Dreghan 1 point 11 days ago

Thank you so much!

GialloNero21 1 point 19 days ago

Would this PC be able to play games such as GTA V, Just Cause 3, DayZ Standalone, probably PUBG and H1Z1? I'm not going to ask about CS:GO and Minecraft since every PC can play those two... I wanna build this PC for my little brother since his current one can barely play CS:GO and Minecraft...

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Can handle all the games mentioned above smoothly at a playable FPS on high to ultra.

isaiahsteinberg 1 point 19 days ago

Im new here and i would like to know if i would be able to play Day Z with this build. Also i learned that you can prevent lag by connecting your network wired directly rather than having it wireless. is this true?

STNLYKM 1 point 18 days ago

Would I be able to play Overwatch, CSGO, DotA 2, Maplestory and player unknown on ultra (highest quality) with this build? (Highly assuming "no")

BatlefrontianNRS 1 point 14 hours ago

I doubt It'll play games like Overwatch at Ultra, but CS:GO and such should be able to, For newly released triple A games you want at Ultra, you'll probably need to buy a better graphics card

Luigioffical 1 point 18 days ago

How does it run overwatch on medium to high settings? And what about triple a games?

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

Overwatch is optimized extremely well, so this build could handle it at high-ultra at 60+ fps. Most well optimized AAA games will be able to run great on medium-high.

Wolfxredshark 1 point 18 days ago

So does the video card helps the pc not get overheated, and can any monitor work with this pc. I'm looking at the price and people's comments and it seems like I can at least run it at 720p 60fps which I don't mind so I can livestream.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 18 days ago

For most games, the video card does most of the work towards getting the graphics rendered on screen.

Starkwolfe 1 point 17 days ago

What kind of fps does this get on csgo

BatlefrontianNRS 1 point 14 hours ago

I've heard it gets around 200, you might want to fish around the comments for a definite answer

XxSkyChaserxX 1 point 17 days ago

can the motherboard handle a higher graphics card like an ASUS GeForce GTX 1080?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 17 days ago

Yes, but I would strongly recommend against getting a GTX 1080 with the G4560.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 9 days ago

You'd be better off building a system the price of the 1080 than this system with a 1080. You'd be mix-matching parts. The highest end video card that I would install in this rig is the 1060. The 1070 has diminishing returns and the Pentium G4560 straight up bottlenecks the 1080 to the point where you are LITERALLY wasting money.

lanner 1 point 16 days ago

I'm thinking of buying this build primarily for streaming from console and business use, but would like to install an optical drive for the latter. Are there any recommendations for an optical drive and a compatible case, assuming the Corsair case doesn't have a space for it?

UpperSleet9961 2 points 10 days ago

One of the most common sizes for an optical drive is 5.25" (I'm mostly sure is the only size, might be wrong). ANY case that has at least ONE 5.25" drive bay will support an optical drive. If I recall, the case in the build doesn't include one, but if looks aren't your concern then I would recommend the Corsair 200R. It is typically $50-60, but I saw it for $40 once. It has a TON of expansion options as well. It doesn't sport a side panel window, but it is a pretty nice case for $50-60. For an optical drive recommendation, as long as you don't want Blue-Ray, the Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer should do you just fine. It is about $20. Blue-Ray optical drives are quite a bit more, but there are some options below $50, such as the LG - UH12NS40 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer. It is a little bit north of $30.

I hope at least some of this helped! Good luck!

Edit: If I am wrong about ANY of this, could someone please correct me?

Marcoux1 1 point 16 days ago

If I decide to use MSI's gtx 1050 ti instead of ASUS', will this cause any problems mechanically or fitment wise or am I ok. Thank you in advance and Thank you ThoughtA for this great build.

InvaderGir 1 point 11 days ago

The case used can fit pretty much any card on the market so no problems.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 9 days ago

You will most likely not have any problems regarding the video card if you decide to get a different brand.

floaterman3 1 point 16 days ago

I'm new to using pc's (former console player). If I'm looking to play games like Overwatch, CSGO, PUBG, Destiny 2, etc., would this build be able to run the games smoothly while also on high graphic settings? If not, what are some parts I could substitute in order to achieve this? Not trying to break the bank, but I am willing to pay up to about $700. Thank you.

InvaderGir 1 point 11 days ago

This build can play most games at high settings and get 60fps at 1080p, unfortunately the mid-tier GPU's are all sold out due to cryptocurrency mining, if you can find a RX 570/580/GTX 1060 for less than $270, it would be a significant upgrade over the GTX 1050Ti.

GeorgeI 1 point 16 days ago

hi, i wanted to get a new pc for around this price, just wanted to know a few things first. Firstly at how many frames would this run minecraft at? no mods or shaders just servers such as mineplex hypixel standard stuff. Next how long would this pc last me, like how long until i needed to upgrade something. im also going to be giving you a list of the games im looking at and would appreciate it if you could tell me if they'd run at around 60fps.

minecraft, csgo, call of duty (no specific one), rocket leauge , overwatch... games like that

  • Thanks
InvaderGir 1 point 11 days ago

Can easily run MC at over 150fps, OW and RL over 100fps and COD at 60fps.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago
 To address the first part of your question, if all that you want to play are games like Minecraft, Rocket League, CS:GO, etc., then this is all that you need. You can play these games at 1080p, Ultra Detail, 60fps. No problem. Those games will run just fine on this machine.
 To address the second part of your question, if those are the only kinds of games that you want to play, (the exception POSSIBLY being Call of Duty, but I doubt it) then this PC could last you a very long time. This game will run ALL CURRENT games at pretty good settings and pretty good framerates at 1080p. However, for the sake of the argument, let's say that there is this brand new game in a few years that you are just DYING to play. I'm doubtful that this would run the most demanding games 5 years from now, but we will see. When that time comes, you should probably look into upgrading.
 I'm not trashing on this machine for not being able to handle the most demanding games in five years from now. Even the guys with 1080ti's will have to upgrade. The thing that I'm trying to say is: What are your expectations? There is a YouTuber called Cult of Mush who has a video all about that, and it would probably do this topic quite a bit more justice than I can. Here it is, if you're interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUVl3HiRFY4 He also has quite a few videos that could elaborate on OTHER topics that are probably also on your mine. I hope this all helped!

UpperSleet9961 2 points 10 days ago

I don't know what happened with the mass text, but it's still readable so...yeah.

AquaticPanda 1 point 15 days ago

I'm looking for a computer that can process MMO games on Steam. Would this build be the right one?

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

I'm positive that you would be fully satisfied with this :)

AquaticPanda 1 point 15 days ago

Also, does this build include email? Like will I be able to receive emails on my monitor? Thanks in advance to whomever replies! It helps me out a lot!

InvaderGir 2 points 13 days ago

Not sure if joke but this build is only the hardware, you'll need to buy a monitor and a windows 10 key separately and install it onto the HDD, then you can do whatever, email, browse the web, watch vids etc.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

Email is software. Not hardware. Any PC with the proper software, functioning hardware, and an internet connection can send and receive emails. Also, you will need a monitor/TV, depending on where this is going.

spiker022 1 point 15 days ago

Hello! I am fresh into computer building.. I will sound extremely stupid with my questions.. So sorry if I make you see me as some idiot who needs to leave. Anyways! I like the way this computer sounds and was wondering how high the FPS would run in games like.. C.O.D. (Any), Subnautica, Battlefield, minecraft (to play with friends), and Just Cause 3. If any of you know how well this would work for those games I will be getting these parts and building this as fast as I can. Last thing is.. any other case that would work with these parts? I like the design.. but I would like this in a gold or blue like color for a cheap price.

If anyone made it this far into this comment, I hope you don't think I'm stupid.

InvaderGir 1 point 13 days ago

If you're looking for benchmarks you can check out this YouTube vid which shows how the G4560 + 1050Ti performs in 10+ games.

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

Or Santiago Santiago's enormous amount of g4560 + 1050 to benchmarks.

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

1050 ti benchmarks

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

This will work just fine.

Damakles 1 point 15 days ago

How do you think the above system would handle games such as Diablo 3 RoS? my step kids love playing it so an extra, cheap computer would stop arguments.

Id even downgrade the GFX slightly as cheaper, good enough cards would be fine for D3.... Just the CPU in unsure about as I myself have only ever run D3 on a Core2Duo+

InvaderGir 2 points 13 days ago

The G4560 has hyper threading so it's basically a slightly slower i3, it and a GTX 1050/Ti can easily handle Diablo3.

Damakles 1 point 13 days ago

Thanks for thr info

pepoxx 1 point 15 days ago

how much time would i be able to squeeze from this gpu before being ''forced'' to upgrade? im planing to build but it has to last me a while because economy and stuff (mostly broke af and living of cup noodles ahh the college life)

goforthegusto 1 point 11 days ago

What do you mean by "forced to upgrade"? The point at which most new games won't be able to run decently on mediumish settings?

pepoxx 1 point 11 days ago

exactly

goforthegusto 1 point 10 days ago

Well the 750 ti still runs quite good on modern games, so you could probably at least have a life span of 3 years (the age of the 750 ti).

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jaboii 1 point 14 days ago

how well can it run GTA with mods?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Very well. The gameplay will be playable at high settings.

jaboii 1 point 11 days ago

thanks

KingKangIV 1 point 14 days ago

So for the past year I have been saving to buy a PC (got close once but had to move costing me a lot lol) and now I have enough for a 500$ build with 200$ for an OS and Monitor but was wondering if this build could stream games at a decent quality and handle two monitors. I dont know If I need a full 16gb of ram, an ssd card, an I5 6600 instead of the Pentium or what... I am new to the world of pc building.

InvaderGir 1 point 13 days ago

This build would struggle with gaming/streaming simultaneously, I wold save up a bit more and go for a R5 1600 since it has 6-cores/12-threads, you'll need a A320/B350/X370 motherboard to go with it.

KingKangIV 1 point 12 days ago

Of those three motherboards, which would be the best?

InvaderGir 1 point 12 days ago

The X370 boards are the highest end models, most featured and better designed.

The B350 boards are basically a step down from X370 but still support overclocking and has Crossfire support.

And A320 being the low end budget boards like the H110 boards from Intel.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

I would go for a B350 Motherboard. Those seem really good. Just make sure you get Memory that is compatible with the motherboard. Ryzen is still quite picky with Memory. And i would get a 250 GB SSD. It makes such a diffrence for boot times.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

For the R5-1600 I would recommend a $100 B350 MOBO, but you can technically install it on any compatible motherboard. If you want to game AND live stream, I would recommend 16GB, but if you just want to game then 8GB of ram is just fine. An SSD is a luxury item, but I would still recommend getting a 120GB/240GB SSD if you can afford it. Put all of your most important programs and such on it and your PC will feel (and be) fast. This is a broad topic, so if you want a very specific answer then you will have to do a little bit of extra research. Hope this helps somewhat!

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

If you are doing high end, professional content then I would recommend Ryzen 7 CPUs. Which one you get would depend on how fast you want your work finished. The average person doesn't need them, however, so Ryzen 5 CPUs are most likely your best bet.

dudeidk 1 point 14 days ago

would this be able to run overwatch at 60fps at med/high graphics?

Drekloe 3 points 12 days ago

at 100 fps

InvaderGir 1 point 13 days ago

Easily.

BraedenC4 1 point 14 days ago

Hello, I'm very new to pc's and I was wondering if this pc would be able to run games like. H1z1, rainbow six siege, csgo, and games like that at 1080 60fps?

InvaderGir 2 points 13 days ago

Yes, at high or greater settings, might have to lower settings a bit for H1Z1.

BraedenC4 1 point 12 days ago

Thank you so much

FallenHox 1 point 14 days ago

Will this be able to run MOBA games such as SMITE and cs?

Drekloe 1 point 12 days ago

smite and cs are very easy to run, so yes

lucianojamimbo 1 point 14 days ago

nice, I'm building something with the same stuff but I am spending a bit more to make it look nicer ;)

jbrewer193 1 point 13 days ago

Thinking about this as a potential computer for my wife but had a few questions about some games. How would this PC handle Overwatch, WoW, Heroes of the Storm, and Diablo 3 all on max ? Seen a couple comments asking for Overwatch but none received an answer. Thank you!

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 13 days ago

Overwatch is very, very well optimized and will run wonderfully on this build. The others will have no problems either, though raids in WoW and certain builds in D3 can hammer just about any system.

Monkey_01 1 point 13 days ago

would this run gta v at 60 fps? if so would 1080p be possible?

InvaderGir 2 points 13 days ago

Yes at medium - high settings at 1080p

Monkey_01 1 point 12 days ago

Thank you

FallenHox 1 point 13 days ago

Can this run SMITE and CS if so ln what fps?

InvaderGir 1 point 13 days ago

Should easily get 60FPS+ with high settings at 1080p.

Cetais 1 point 13 days ago

Got every piece, and I just realized something. Do I need something to connect to the wifi? If yes, what do I need?

InvaderGir 3 points 13 days ago

You'd need either a USB adapter or a PCI-E adapter, the motherboard has a Ethernet port at the back.

Apostary 1 point 13 days ago

could i play black ops 3 on this and could i hook up the internet wireless

Darkstar04 1 point 13 days ago

I was planning to build this to make the switch from console to Pc gaming and I was wondering what monitor I should use.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 2 points 11 days ago

Yep. a 1080p 60Hz monitor is the monitor to go here

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

About a $100 monitor is all you need, but you can hook it up to your TV if you plan to use your PC anywhere besides a desk.

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FallenHox 1 point 13 days ago

How would this run SMITE?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Above 60 fps+ for sure. Smite will run fine on it.

rezidiare 1 point 13 days ago

can i run lawbreakers and overwatch on this

Drekloe 2 points 12 days ago

yes

O-dog 1 point 12 days ago

I have a pc just like this I have an i5 650 though mini ITX and 8 gb of RAM

Toastyeagle 1 point 12 days ago

I am interested in gaming. But I also want to use this system for music production and editing. Would this setup support it?

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 3 points 11 days ago

Yeah it would. Although for rendering and such the CPU is a bit weak. For those tasks it is better to have more cores. You can either upgrade to an i5 or switch the side and get a Ryzen 5 1600 or Ryzen 5 1600X. They cost around the same as an i5 but instead of 4 cores and 4 threads they have 6 cores and 12 threads. If you get a Ryzen you have to get an AM4 motherboard with th B350 chipset though. If you do get ryzen make sure that the memory is supported by the motherboard. You can see the full compatibility list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $227.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $29.90 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $86.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $131.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $66.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card $138.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $924.61
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $894.61
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-12 15:56 EDT-0400

You could save some money by buying the Ryzen 5 1600 instead of the 1600X. The 1600 is just a little bit lower clocked than the 1600X. You can also take other Memory than the G.Skill ones. I took those cuz they were the first on the compatibility list of the Motherboard. You may also find other parts that are cheaper. I just took those out of preference because they are from good brands that make quality products. This part list is just a suggestion ;) keep that in mind ;) But would work very good. The only thing that i don't like about my Part list is the Video card. it is a bit weak compared to the CPU. Prices are really high rn because of miners. A Rx 580 would be the best pickbut they are just waaay to expensive right now. But if you are impatient you can still expect a solid performance by the 1050 Ti and upgrade later.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $176.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $76.98 @ Newegg
Memory Kingston - FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $83.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $66.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card $138.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $26.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $734.70
Mail-in rebates -$55.00
Total $679.70
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-12 16:15 EDT-0400

This one would be a bit cheaper but give you still good performance ;)

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

I'd recommend something like a R5 1600 build w/ 16GB of RAM if you are into those kinds of tasks. If you want to do a bunch of stuff at once, then I would consider upgrading the CPU to an R7 1700. It is a BEAST at multi-tasking, and you can most likely play games while doing your music production and such. I'm not an expert on that stuff, but you might want to opt for more RAM if you can afford it.

EvoTech 1 point 12 days ago

What is the average fps in Bf1 on ultra and high?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

About 45-50 FPS average on ultra.

caseymedinaa 1 point 12 days ago

This might be a dumb question but I've never built a PC before. Anyways, are these parts all I need to build a fully working PC?

heeteshbuild 1 point 12 days ago

Yes. You will also need an external monitor to be able to display the video output. Given that you have all the part listed above, you will be able to run a computer. You would also need to install an operating system once you have installed all physical computer parts.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 10 days ago

Yes, this is all that you need for the PC itself. However, you need to take note of a few other things. 1.)You still need an OS. If you are tight on money to the point where $30 is too much, then you can use un-activated windows. It has almost all of the features that activated windows does, but you can't change your background and you also get some splash text at the bottom right hand corner of your screen. 2.)You will need a monitor. If you plan on using your PC on a TV, then all you need is an HDMI cable. If you don't want to use a TV, then there are monitors that are 1080p, have a 60Hz refresh rate, have an IPS panel (best kind), a 5ms response time, and a screen size of 21.5 inches for about $100. Monitors go on sale on the time, so keep an eye out and you can get away like a thief :)

madamson8 1 point 8 days ago

It is also possible to go with Linux until you can afford Windows. Sure, Linux doesn't have as many games, but it does still have quite a few, and if you decide you like it, you can dual boot it with windows.

TableTerrorMatt 1 point 12 days ago

Thanks! I've been looking for an economy build for a first-timer like myself!

pcNewbie_ 1 point 12 days ago

i am extremely new to PC gaming and have been on a console for 5 years or so and i was wondering if this would a good entry level PC, i am looking to play the games like fallout new vegas, RB6

InvaderGir 1 point 11 days ago

Yes this is a very good entry build into PC gaming, this build will have no problems running those games and many more.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Yes! this will run everything

pcNewbie_ 1 point 12 days ago

could this PC run games like RB6 siege and battlefield 1

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Yes! perfectly

LukeOli 1 point 11 days ago

Any RAM alternatives for a similar price? The current ones delivery takes 1-2 weeks.

heeteshbuild 2 points 11 days ago

My recommendation would be to chose any ram, either 2133mhz or 2400mhz for the best price and fastest delivery due the the fact that this is a budget gaming build. RAM speed won't matter much.

LukeOli 1 point 8 days ago

Thank you!

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somenig 1 point 11 days ago

I have a couple of (not so quick) questions regarding the PSU, hopefully somebody can help me within the next day or so.

The parametric selection lists a few different ones with different wattages. I'm looking to include the CPU, MoBo, memory, and storage components in this guide BUT with the addition of an SSD drive (2-10w), and a GTX 1060 6gb (30-120w) GPU. I'm most likely going to salvage my old comp's optical drive and anything of importance. My list contains an estimated 269W. I read here in the comments that PSUs function most efficiently at 50% load. Also, I'm looking to hook up my TV to the computer so that I can play games because my monitor is ancient. So here come the questions:

  • Is it true about the 50% load efficiency?

  • Will having a second monitor affect wattage?

  • What is the difference between bronze/gold certifications for PSUs

  • And finally, given the long winded explanation of my future set up, which PSU would be best? (I've got my eye on this power supply)

heeteshbuild 1 point 11 days ago
  • You will have to check with the manufacturer to see the load efficiency as not all PSU are the same.
  • Plugging another monitor won't typically affect the PSU as it will be drawing power from from an external power source. Therefore, it won't affect wattage draw. -Bronze and gold are PSU ratings at how effective and efficient it is at maximizing the wattage. Generally, gold will be better than bronze and also more expensive but this is not the case all the time.
  • The provideo PSU's link will be more than sufficient for your build due to the fact that this PSU of your choice is 550W and is rated GOLD. The Corsair-CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified will also work for your build.
somenig 1 point 9 days ago

Thanks for the reply! As it turns out, yes, most if not all PSUs are meant to be most efficient at 20%, 50%, and 100% load. 550 W gold PSU seemed like overkill at first but nearly perfect for the build I've got going as it is estimated to use ~48.9% load.

For anyone else that may be wondering: Bronze and Gold ratings differ in efficiency when converting power from the wall to power for your computer. Bronze has around 85% efficiency, and Gold has around 90% and therefore also generates less heat than a bronze certified PSU.

FallenHox 1 point 11 days ago

For this pc since it doest have a disc drive how would i install windows ?

kiddysquid 1 point 11 days ago

With a USB flash drive

heeteshbuild 1 point 11 days ago

There are many ways to install windows without a disk drive. One such way and probably the easiest is by pre-downloading windows 10 for your PC and adding it to a USB. Just make sure to format and save anything important on your USB if there is data in there and also do make sure that it has enough capacity. Generally, 16GB is enough. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

Dondondon1w 1 point 10 days ago

Will this run Dota2 on max setting?

InvaderGir 1 point 10 days ago

Yes.

jrd7611 1 point 10 days ago

Can this run civ 6?

goforthegusto 1 point 10 days ago

Would swapping the g4560 for a ryzen 1400 ( along with getting the the appropriate motherboard) be a good move here?

JJAP 1 point 10 days ago

You could probably add 1x8GB to the memory filter. I don't think dual channel will be more noticeable than the 4-5 dollars you might save (then again, nobody seems to agree when it comes to what memory configuration/speed is worth in $... "buy if it you want!" they end up saying).

Also, paying for a modular PSU (so you can store the cables in a drawer instead of the case? There's plenty of room) doesn't seem to fit a budget build.

djdamian 1 point 10 days ago

I really need a PC, but I've never built one before. I've only ever used laptops :/ I have no idea where to plug cables in, where to put the screws. What do you guys recommend I do?

MonkDad 1 point 3 days ago

there are lots of videos that will guide you through an installation. in fact i think this build in particular has a link to a walk through

waffle911 1 Build 1 point 10 days ago

I think for the case, I'd rather go with the relatively new Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 3.1, which 1. includes interchangeable color accents to suit whichever color scheme you end up going with (which would also be super easy to custom paint if desired), 2. is mATX form factor to match the motherboard rather than leaving all that empty space, 3. shares many similar features to the Carbide sans one of each drive bay and top fan mounts, and 4. has the appearance of a tempered glass case with its full panel window and mirror-tinted front panel. I think its bling is a bit more tasteful than the Corsair's.

DOBBY0 1 point 10 days ago

So I don't have any experience in building a pc. This will be my first. Say I build this exactly like it's listed, in 2 years I'll probably need to upgrade? When I do go about upgrading will I only need to change out cpu/gpu/powersupply? or also the motherboard? I am interested in how upgrade-able this build is for the future.

Zayro 1 point 10 days ago

How well would this work with World of Warcraft?

MonkDad 1 point 3 days ago

blizzard games are very well optimized, especially a game like warcraft. i would imagine you could pretty much max everything out no problem with this rig

dale07 1 point 10 days ago

Hi. Can i change the gpu to gtx 1060 6gb? Thanks

Sambin 1 point 10 days ago

Why are some of these prices incorrect? The CPU on Newegg is not that cheap and it is out of stock. The RAM is priced higher on Amazon.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 9 days ago

Thanks for the report. I've updated the CPU's and RAM's listings and am looking into a longer-term solution.

Sambin 1 point 8 days ago

The CPU and Motherboard prices are messed up :(

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 7 days ago

Thanks, I've fixed the CPU now. If you're talking about the Amazon listing for the PRIME B250M-A, you'll see that there's a "From new" link on our page and a similar link on Amazon that will take you to the offer that's the price we're showing.

Retrrro 1 point 9 days ago

I have basically the same build but with a GTX 1060 instead of the 1050. If I were to upgrade the cpu to a i5 or a i7 would this make my pc much better? Or are thhere different things I also need to upgarde from.

charlesdegaulle 1 point 9 days ago

I would wait to see how the new Ryzen 3 CPUs fare when they come out later this month; they're quad core processors that are gonna be much cheaper than i5 and i7 processors.

goforthegusto 1 point 8 days ago

I would check out the ryzen 1400 right now also

charlesdegaulle 1 point 9 days ago

This build will probably be amazing with the Ryzen 3 processors when they come out later this month, can't wait to see how they perform

VodkaBro 1 point 9 days ago

I'm building a pc for the first time and therefore wanted to ask, what difference would it make swappíng the video card from the build, with an MSI - GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card and if it would even be compatible with the other parts. I bought off the mentioned video card from a good friend for a good price and would like to use it (he barely used it because he bought a new gtx 1050 and therefore it is still in perfect condition).

charlesdegaulle 1 point 9 days ago

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G-Swede 1 point 9 days ago

Will it work if I put in an i3 intel core processor instead of the pentium?

Sambin 1 point 9 days ago

I clicked customize the part list and changed the cpu to an i3. It says it is compatible.

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BrownNaruto 1 point 9 days ago

Would this be able to run Overwatch and Players Unknown Battlegrounds at a decent frame rate? Because i would hate to get it and not be able to play the games I want

charlesdegaulle 1 point 9 days ago

It will be able to run Overwatch with no problems whatsoever, it probably could even max it out and still hold over 60 fps. You will probably have to full around with the settings on Battlegrounds though, you would probably get in the 40-60 fps range, possibly higher. Some settings have a heavier performance impact than others.

TreSPassR 1 point 9 days ago

Hi! I'm new to PC gaming and architecture, but I'm learning. I want to build this, but was wondering if it can handle the current mmorpgs out now since that's what I'll be mainly playing (BDO, Dragon's Dogma Online, Blade & Soul, Divinity 2 and the upcoming Dauntless). Also, anyone know of any other cases, preferably smaller that can house this setup? I don't really care for the "flair" since any bright lights/trim would just attract my daughter's curiosity.

Thanks

TreSPassR 1 point 9 days ago

Hi! I'm new to PC gaming/architecture coming from consoles. I would like to try and build this (first time), but was wondering how it would handle the current mmorpgs (BDO, Dragon's dogma Online, Blade & Soul, PSO2, Divinity 2, the upcoming Dauntless and many others) since that genre will be my main focus. Also, can anyone recommend any other cases for this set up, preferably a smaller case? I don't really care for all the flair like bright lights /trim since that'll just attract my daughter's curiosity.

Thanks

AceGamer310 1 point 9 days ago

Hello, I wouldn't know if it's a truly nice build. However it's looks pretty sweat anyways I wanna get into pc gaming. So I was wondering if this build would be able to manage(however it's called) Rainbow 6 Seige, Friday The 13th, GTA5?? Ohhh how can I forget I have a Gaming channel so like that to and twitch, sorry for so many questions. Thank you so much I really appreciate it! :)

BrownNaruto 1 point 9 days ago

Could I keep adding better pc parts to it later on? Or is it only compatible with these specific parts? Sorry I'm not very techy

goforthegusto 1 point 8 days ago

Yes

madamson8 1 point 8 days ago

Is there a guide on building this? I will be getting all of the parts in a week or so, and I would love a guide on putting it together. I was also wondering if this could run elite dangerous at 1080p, 60fps. Thanks for this guide! It has been very helpful

barrelmocha 1 point 8 days ago

This is a crazy build, I'm just wondering about the processor. A guide would be nice aswell

barrelmocha 1 point 8 days ago

But does this include tax? I'm in canada

MonkDad 1 point 3 days ago

doesn't include shipping costs, that's for sure. they add up fast

MonkDad 1 point 8 days ago

Is a sound card still important these days?

Blezdep 1 point 8 days ago

just checking this would run games like Player Unknown battle grounds?? Or would it be worth spending the extra money to get the modest gaming build, cheers

Br_Eazy 1 point 8 days ago

I want to run arma life 3 mod on pretty good setting have an FPS around 60 to 70 will this build will be good for me?

Ladbrook 1 point 8 days ago

Hello, was looking to get into streaming, would I be able to stream some pretty basic games at a decent quality with this build, might seem like a silly question but i've honestly got no idea. Thanks :)

Games like Oldschool Runescape lmao

byrneo7677 1 point 7 days ago

would it be wise to replace the CPU with an AMD Athlon? I'm hoping to run games like Squad and Cities Skylines, so will need a slightly higher performing CPU. That means i would need to change a motherboard right?

tvanhine 1 point 7 days ago

Any advantage to having 2x4GB of ram versus a 1x8GB for this particular build??

Zane240 1 point 7 days ago

Does this come with an optical drive?

HeresyIsForTheWeak 1 point 7 days ago

I hate to be that guy but im looking for the cheapest build i can get,moneys really tight right now. Im wanting to run Total War Warhammer 1@2,XCOM2 etc with max graphics,would this build work?

Bentheball1 1 point 6 days ago

fps on csgo max settings?

G-Swede 1 point 6 days ago

How many monitors does this support?

Sparksen 1 point 6 days ago

so whats not possible with this build? like Fallout 4 with 60 Fps is already insane good:D are there games you cant play with a good quality?

And can i change the HD with an SSD? ( i have it already)

lovelysokmean 1 point 6 days ago

It the best for gaming and design if change CPU to I5! I think it best if don't change CPU!and it very cheap!

Thanks for recomment!

techie4189 1 point 5 days ago

What is the criteria for selecting Intel over AMD?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 5 days ago

For this build? AMD doesn't have any comparable offerings at this price point.

techie4189 1 point 5 days ago

I know most AMD builds right now are either outdated or preemptive due to Ryzen 3 being scheduled for release in the coming months. However wouldn't an FX 6300 suit the same purpose?(Barring the use of DDR4)

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 5 days ago

An FX 6300 wouldn't perform nearly as well, so no, unfortunately.

charlesdegaulle 1 point 5 days ago

Will the Ryzen 3 1200 replace the G4560 in this build? Sounds like a good idea since right now since it'd be only about 20 or 30 dollars more than the G4560 but would feature 4 cores and overclocking capability.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 5 days ago

It will depend on what the finalized pricing, performance, and availability is.

techie4189 1 point 5 days ago

We will soon find out... https://community.amd.com/community/amd-corporate/blog/2017/07/13/ryzen-onslaught-continues-with-ryzen-threadripper-and-ryzen-3-product-updates ... from what I read in this post they are supposed to be releasing it next week.

SanityHawk 1 point 5 days ago

can this run overwatch on high settings for about 60 fps?

MonkDad 1 point 3 days ago

I have read elsewhere in this thread that you can pretty much run Overwatch on ultra because it is so well optimized

SanityHawk 1 point 3 days ago

nice, well now i need 400 bucks or so.

Xof 1 point 5 days ago

How many usb ports does this have?

djDarkX 1 Build 1 point 5 days ago

Interestingly enough, the Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H I bought back in March during one of the earlier revisions of this build guide came to me with a DoA CPU power connector. Due to the fact I couldn't test it until June, the return on it expired. Sent it in for RMA, but was taking forever, so I opted for the ASRock B250M Pro4 and it's amazing! No problems whatsoever. People said you can't overclock with it, but you can't OC the G4560 anyway, so it worked out very well.

MattRG 1 point 5 days ago

Hi. Thanks for making this build and keeping up with it. I was really surprised to find that I could get a gaming pc for this price that could handle AAA titles. I'm just wondering, if I this is even something that can be speculated, how long this build will be viable for newer games as-is or with minimal upgrades.

Nah1112 1 point 4 days ago

recommend building this with ryzen 3 {when it comes} ,out because some games dont work on dual core cpus notably far cry 4

Gageman1231 1 point 4 days ago

Thoughts on this build for light gaming as I'm a noob to this and am looking to get my first PC at a reasonable price

Merksman 1 point 4 days ago

Can you run Overwatch on ultra at 60 fps??

charlesdegaulle 1 point 4 days ago

Whenever I've got a computer built and set up and I'm getting the drivers, do I NEED to update the BIOS? I know almost all mobos get BIOS revisions after release, but since (in this case) it would be compatible with the CPU out of the box, would I need to update the BIOS, and/or is there any point in doing so? Thanks!

snaps 1 point 4 days ago

Would this build run Ark Survival Evolved fairly smoothly?

kc495 1 point 4 days ago

always been a console player and just had my eyes open to pc gaming for what it really is, will I be able to run games like rocket league, and players unknown on this ?

tariqhirji 1 point 4 days ago

I'm new at building computers and am trying to learn how to create a basic gaming computer. I have read that motherboards need network cards to have wired or wireless connections, but some have network cards built into them. Would I have to buy a seperate network card for this build?

PandaNightblade 1 point 3 days ago

Hi, I'm finally switching from consoles to PC! I was hoping to have a Gaming PC that can run Skyrim SE and Elder Scrolls Online on high (with little to no lag of course). Would this work.

WelfareDoggo 1 point 3 days ago

If I bought this pc cause I'm not looking to spend a grand on a pc would I be able to run Players unknown battlegrounds, Arma 3, and other new games like Witcher on high to ultra settings?

Hahawinglet 1 point 3 days ago

PUBs and Arma will not be able to run well at ultra. Witcher might be able to with a performance hit.

Ared45 1 point 3 days ago

so for my first gaming pc would this be my best choice

JefferyWilkins 1 point 3 days ago

Very Inexperienced at building PC's. Seems like a nice build and something that I could definetly afford and use. So I do love sitting on a couch and gaming on consoles, but I also want to mod. Could this Battlegrounds well at least, probably total war as well. Just some fun PC exclusives is all I'm looking for.

shanedoss07 1 point 3 days ago

Would this build be able to run Overwatch with high graphics settings and still get 60fps?

Gazalives00 1 point 3 days ago

What's the max fps I can get with this badboy for league of legends. On medium settings and high

berlynbo 1 point 2 days ago

How would this handle Rainbow 6 Siege and Overwatch?

Psyllium 1 point 2 days ago

Would this build be considered future proof? Will it be able to play games that are released 1 or 2 years from now? Or is Ryzen 3 a better choice?

berlynbo 1 point 1 day ago

Does the motherboard come with a wifi card?

realjamespeach 1 point 1 day ago

I have almost no idea what I'm doing. What is the expandabilty of this build? Can I add a Blu Ray writer? Could I plop an i7 in this motherboard later? How big can I go with a different video card later?

Mekuto1999 1 point 1 day ago

Would I be able to play CSGO and Playerunknown battlegrounds on this PC? I don’t know much about PCs and just getting into them

BatlefrontianNRS 1 point 22 hours ago

Will this setup be able to run recent triple A games such as EAs Battlefront and Battlefield1?

hotzie 1 point 19 hours ago

im looking to build my first pc for gaming , I am a total noob at pc's so ive been looking for a list like this. Ive found two but i have no clue which is the better deal the one here or the $500 build here. https://elitegamingcomputers.com/good-cheap-gaming-computers/#22

MazeofEncrpytion 1 point 19 hours ago

Meh

BatlefrontianNRS 1 point 14 hours ago

Stupid question, but how would I install Windows 10?

むせる 1 point 10 hours ago

You install it with a USB flash drive.

BatlefrontianNRS 1 point 13 hours ago

Also would this setup be a 32-bit or a 64-bit?

TheLASTsamurai 0 points 20 days ago

Is a ryzen 5 1400 better for this build ?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 20 days ago

It would perform quite a bit better, but it's of course also quite a bit more expensive. You'd want to make sure to change your motherboard to be compatible, and you'd want to consider getting faster memory if the price isn't too much higher.

WyrmWolf130 0 points 17 days ago

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DCkiller -1 points 23 days ago

dude dat power supply is too much for dis build bro.. ucan save money and buy a SSD withh dat....

will1105 5 points 17 days ago

Power Supplies are most efficient at around 50% Load, so in fact it is a reasonably good choice

William12345 2 points 22 days ago

mybe is too much, but when you'll upgrade you'll need more power on the power supply

Vengeance1020 -2 points 23 days ago

I should state that hyper threading does not add the performance of having twice the number of cores. Hyper threading does something else to handle work faster on a single core but isn't for every load, some games might even try to run on one of the spare threads rather than the physical core. In relative performance, a spare threads is roughly the speed of 1/4 a core, but it does not act as a spare core, it is simply a spare thread that works with the main thread to help handle some loads better, but not all. A hyper threaded processor is NOT for gaming purposes, but is useful in workstations and servers.

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 2 points 21 days ago

So what? The g4560 runs great in my budget gaming rig. The hyper threading makes a difference for gaming dude

Vengeance1020 1 point 6 days ago

Not much of one, hyper threading does not equal double cores, it equals more efficient cores, but its only so useful. Ive had it on a single core and it helped a little but it still wasnt good enough for anything

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Yeah i know that. But 2 cores makes a big difference if you compare it to a single core CPU. I guess yiu have to own a g4560 to really know how good it actually is.

Vengeance1020 1 point 1 day ago

I've owned a Pentium 4 and upgraded to a Core2Quad, made a huge difference. I'm sure the G4560 is a good processor but for gaming a quad core is the best way to go

Lobsterareawesome 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

if you have the money. and a lot of people don't have the money to buy a quad core CPU

UpperSleet9961 0 points 10 days ago

Hyperthreading makes everything better, from gaming to workstation use. It can even help out when you have a million chrome tabs open at once :)

Vengeance1020 2 points 6 days ago

Its barely helped me before. I never said hyperthreading doesnt help, I said it simply doesnt equal double the cores and it doesnt help with all loads

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor 6W - 54W
Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 15W - 60W
Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 5W - 5W
Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card 18W - 75W
Total: 48W - 214W