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Great Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're running an Intel i5-6500. Any modern i5 will perform admirably for nearly all gaming needs. The i5-6500 includes a stock cooler, so 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary. Since we aren't overclocking our CPU, the stock cooler will be sufficient in keeping temperatures acceptable.

Motherboard

Our motherboard is a parametric selection from a sparse set of options. All six of the potential motherboards share similar features and will work perfectly for the build. They all have 2 extra DIMM slots for future memory expansion, and they all fit the black and white theme of this build.

Memory

Since memory continues to come down in cost, we can comfortably fit 16GB of DDR4 RAM, which should provide some nice memory headroom. We're using a parametric filter to choose a 16GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications at the best price, while also filtering for a kit that fits our theme of black and white.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 480GB of space and a minimum of 2TB 7200RPM mechanical storage. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the newly released Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market and an absolute powerhouse. The GTX 1070 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like Battlefield 4 (and hopefully the upcoming Battlefield 1) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of Mordor. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1070 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

We've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason.

Case

We're rounding out our black and white build with a white Phanteks Eclipse P400S. This is the "silent" version of the P400, and it includes sound-dampening foam accordingly. The mid tower P400S features a nice PSU shroud to keep the build looking clean. Outside the PSU shroud, we also have plenty of cable managing holes, along with drive mounts on the walls of the case. We also have 2 USB 3.0 ports on the front panel.

The P400S also includes a multicolored LED on the front of the case. You have 8 choices of color, or you can turn it off. Additionally, there is an included fan controller for up to two chassis fans.

Note that this case does not have a 5.25" bay, so traditional optical drives are out. You do not need an optical drive to install an OS or most software. Downloading and flash drives will take care of the bulk of those. If you want an optical drive, you can either purchase an external one, or you can add an internal optical drive to your PCPartPicker list, and our compatibility filter will show only cases that can fit it.

If you'd like to keep with the theme but don't like the white, there's a black version and a gray version. There are also non-windowed options on the site, if you'd prefer that. If you don't want sound-dampening foam, there are non-silent editions on the site as well. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of a five well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Bronze certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build. With the PSU shroud in the case, we don't need to worry about the colors of the PSU matching the theme.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 319W
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Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
  • Color: Black, Black/White, White
€152.56 €152.56 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 480GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
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From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
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Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070
  • Length: 224mm - 403mm
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Case
Power Supply €69.46 €69.46 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Total: €1107.30
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Comments Sorted by:

CrunchyCho 2 points 12 months ago

Hi, I'm new to pc building so excuse me for any pointless questions. The case chosen in this guide wasn't to my liking, so I changed it to the Corsair 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case, just wondering if any other changes would be needed to use this case. Thanks in advance:)

ThoughtA staff submitter 7 points 12 months ago

Nope that'll work fine. Asking if parts will be compatible is far from pointless, by the way.

CrunchyCho 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks for the help :)

CrunchyCho 1 point 12 months ago

Could you recommend any wireless adapters to go with this pc?

WirelessCables 1 Build 3 points 12 months ago

Here's a good choice.

In my experience, almost any Asus PCI-E x1 802.11ac card will perform very well. If this card is a little too much, there's another Asus 802.11ac PCI-E x1 card for ~$34.99. But I picked the AC56 for its quality and speed. I have the AC68 and I can get 802.11ac-like ping times on games like Rocket League on an 802.11n router.

Not sponsored or anything...

CrunchyCho 1 point 11 months ago

Thanks!

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

How much can you spend on wireless network adapters?

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

10-20 dollars/euros 10-15 pounds.

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Zeckion32 2 points 11 months ago

imo internal WiFi adapters are pointless, you should probs move your router or get a USB adapter. And if it is the same dimensions or smaller it will fit. and there are fans pre installed in the case that should do fine.

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Stereotypical_Whale 1 point 10 months ago

sorry for replying a month later, but if you care about looks, that motherboard will look really tiny in that case.

poaction 2 points 12 months ago

Why a b150M mobo vs a H110M? What benefits does a b150M mobo provide that were used in this build?

RYANITE 2 points 10 months ago

should i settle in and build this? do i need a network card? will this be good to use on new games AFTER this christmas? (probably when im gonna get it) or should i wait till after christmas to see if new builds show up? PLEASE RESPOND PLS PLS PLS PLS

Frostiikiller 1 point 10 months ago

This build will work for modern titles, but if you're wanting to continue to use it for a few extra years, I would go with an Intel 6600/6600k and maybe upgrade the power supply to allow for more expansion room, such as overclocking and just new hardware. The integrated LAN on the motherboard SEEMS to be okay, but not great. So that choice is completely up to you if you want to get a network card or not. No matter which processor you get, I would suggest to go with a non-stock CPU fan, such as the Cryorig.

Varan56 1 point 10 months ago

Yes this will play all games after this Christmas. If you want 4k gaming get 1080 asus strix otherwise this is fine for every triple A titles at max with 60 fps.

Pantos_ 1 point 10 months ago

Maybe a dumb question, but Bethesda recommends at least Intel Core i7 4790 3.6GHz for Fallout 4. Would I have problems because of that?

Varan56 2 points 10 months ago

No the intel I5 6500 is a generation above that processor. In other words yes you will have no problems.

Pantos_ 2 points 10 months ago

Yikes I guess it was dumb then haha. Thank you!

Varan56 1 point 10 months ago

Hey man there is never a dumb question.

BLOOGa 1 point 10 months ago

You don't need a network card. If you want Wi-Fi you can just get a usb adapter. But I would wait a couple months and see what happens with zen coming out.

mz10j 1 point 12 months ago

If I am looking for a gaming PC to beat current consoles at graphics and frame rate, run mods in games like Fallout and Skyrim, but am genuinely uninterested in VR possibilities, would this build be a good option? Or would I be able to accomplish those goals with something less powerful? Honestly, I could probably manage this price, but it is nice to cut costs when possible.

Pseudologia 1 point 12 months ago

I'm not sure, but you could definitely wait till CyberMonday, (the Monday after Black Friday), as prices tend to drop extensively that day. It's only a month away.

Kjosve 1 point 12 months ago

If you're not interested with VR, you could replace the GPU with a GTX 1060 or an RX 480. Both are amazing cards for 1080p gaming and either would wreck consoles. And if silence is not required, getting the Corsair 88r would cut down costs a bit more. The SSD could be replaced with a 240Gb option, too.

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

you could get a good 1080p console killer with an i3 6100 and rx 460. go cheap with the case/mobo/cooler and get 4 or 8gb of ram (depending on your budget).

Zeckion32 2 points 11 months ago

.>2016 >4GB of RAM

TheGreenLing 1 point 12 months ago

This doesn't need any additional cooling? I have read some case reviews that the case fans may not be sufficient.

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

I have read some case reviews that the case fans may not be sufficient.

Can you link to those reviews?

TheGreenLing 1 point 12 months ago

If you dont think there would be a cooling issue thats great, I just suspected there would be.

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craftchunks 1 point 12 months ago

I'm entirely new to building pc's if I were to assemble all of these parts together what would I have to buy additionally for the computer to be in full working order?

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

operating system, there are some free ones but are a bit harder to install for a first timer.

craftchunks 1 point 12 months ago

What do you think would be the best operating system, and do you know if I would need an optical drive if I were to buy this set?

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

the case is not compatible for optical drives so you would need to go with a different case. you dont need a optical drive to install the operating system , they also come in thumb drive form. as for choosing the OS i can't really help you there since im not very knowledgeable about the pros and cons of each one.

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

oh and most cases aren't compatible with optical drives and the ones that are don't come with one.

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

Windows 7 or Chrome/Chromium OS.

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

one thing to keep in mind when choosing a OS for a gaming pc is that the new microsoft games are only playable in windows 10 unless there is a way around that. games like gears of war 4 which the 1070 gpu comes with can only be played on windows 10 as far as i know.

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

this motherboard doesnt come with a wifi adapter i i ibelieve, just incase you needed to know.

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

Operating system, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and antivirus. There may be some additional peripherals you may need depending on your use case, but the ones I listed are the ones that every computer needs or should have.

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

i would recommend windows 10, download it on a usb drive and put the usb drive into the mobo. then turn on pc and hit delete until in bios. then choose your ssd as boot option and download windows. it will take you through some steps which are fairly simple, then when you are successfully in windows, take your usb out and connect to a network (with an ethernet cable if you don't have a wireless adapter) and download the drivers for your mobo/gpu. then restart and your done!

tebauman 1 point 12 months ago

Does it make sense to bump the CPU up to an i5-6600K and add a CPU Cooler?

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

you would also need to change the motherboard

tebauman 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks, just found that out on a previous version of this build. Motherboard needs the Z170 chipset

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

If you want to overclock, yes.

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

If you want to overclock your processor, yes. Otherwise, no.

Retrrro 1 point 12 months ago

Hi i am very new to pc gaming. I am looking for a solid gaming pc that can run CS:GO, gmod, black ops 3 mods, and other games like battlefield 1, and GTA V mods as well. Would this be a good pc for that? If not then I would like some help on building a pc. Any help is appreciated. Thanks :)

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

yea this build and specially the gpu is a overkill for all those games as i have run them and i have nearly the same build. if you have a 4k monitor you wil have to overclock your gpu but will probably still remain at around 60fps if you are doing 1080p then just stock speeds will do and give you way over 60fps on all this games.

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

this pc can do all that don't worry (although you could probably get a more budget version and spend less ;)

miguelpopa32 1 point 12 months ago

Hi, I was wondering if I can use a mini ITX case and which case you would recommend?

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

You cannot use a Mini ITX case without changing other parts.

Torchewood 1 point 12 months ago

Hey, loving the build - one or two questions though. So I'm absolutely completely new to pc building, and I have a PNY GTX 960 4GB sitting around from a failed upgrade about 2 years ago. Would I be able to substitute out the graphics card in your guide? Also, do you have any recommendations for video guides on how to build the computer? Thanks in advance!

LemonComputers 1 point 12 months ago

What's the model number of the video card you're considering using?

Torchewood 1 point 12 months ago

It's VCGGTX9604XPB.

Manfly 1 point 12 months ago

Hello, i am also new to pc building and im looking for a computer that could run AAA games with really good fps and my budget is in the 1300$ region would this be a good choice or is there more powerful pcs ?

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

depends, the gtx 1070 is a beast and can handle just about any AAA game with fps of around 70-140 on 1080p 144mhz and around 60-80 on 2k monitors. if you add a monitor, operating system, mouse keyboard and antivirus this build is probably around $1300-1400.

funkyfish001 1 point 12 months ago

What monitor would you need for this PC's full potential?

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

1440p monitor or a 1080p @144Hz

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

Budget for a monitor?

CaptainKrunch64 1 point 12 months ago

You can save some money if you get a worse power supply you only need 300 watts so you could definitely save some money there.

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

i would get at least a 430-450W psi

axdc1 1 point 12 months ago

would this be any better? http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dcmgPs

tothefarwest 1 point 10 months ago

noooooo stick to gold certified power supplies. With low efficiency, it might bust.

WhiteoutDota 1 point 10 months ago

Don't listen to him. There are plenty of really good Bronze certified PSUs. I don't believe that particular model of Corsair's is any good though. All of Seasonic's PSUs are really good, even Bronze ones

yujinred 1 point 11 months ago

Hi, this is the first time posting here and this build is very close to what I have in mind.

You picked an ATX Mid Tower case but the motherboard is a Micro ATX. Is this okay to do? Also, you picked a B150 motherboard. What is the difference between a B150 motherboard vs H110 or H170? What kind of features do I lose by picking the B150 rather than the Z170? Also, what is the rational regarding picking the Bronze certified power supply? Is it worth the money to upgrade to a Gold Certified?

This is the first time I am trying to build a computer so I have a lot of questions. Hope you can help :)

ghosty1r 1 Build 3 points 11 months ago

i have that exact motherboard on a mid tower and they are compatible, the reason i assume they choose the mini motherboard is for cost savings as it has less features that first time builders probably won't use. and the main difference between a B150 and Z170 is that the Z170 supports a cpu that can be overclocked(a K series CPU).This build isn't using a OC cpu so a B150 is fine. idk much about the pcu but i think the higher ratings are more energy effiencient.

yujinred 1 point 11 months ago

thanks, that's really helpful

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

most mid tower atx cases support micro atx mobos, this is fine here. you really won't be needing a z-series motherboard; those are used to over clock cpus (the ones with a 'k' at the end of them, like the i5 6600k) so this s completely fine. the only difference between bronze and gold is that in theory, gold lasts longer than bronze, but I've had a 650W bronze for years and I've never had a problem. hope this was useful to you ;)

Retrrro 1 point 11 months ago

Hi, I am very new to pc gaming and I really want a good computer that can run games like, cs go, gmod, Black ops 3 custom zombies, GTA V mods. I would like a computer thats under 900. Can anyone create a good gaming pc for that price? Please and thank you

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

here i managed to get an i5 6500/ gtx 1070 super clocked/ 16gb ddr4/ 1tb + 275gb ssd for 894 USD. http://pcpartpicker.com/user/santi.mazzzzz/saved/W29GXL hope i helped ;)

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

That PSU isn't very good.

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

it will get the job done

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

It's still mediocre, and something better is preferable.

SuperStormling 1 point 11 months ago

ThoughtA,I hope that you are aware that this MotherBoard Supports only ddr4 2133.And you chose ddr4 2800.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 11 months ago

The memory will be automatically downclocked to match the motherboard's support speeds.

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

That doesn't matter because the motherboard will automatically downclock the memory to 2133 MHz.

gandrus5 1 point 11 months ago

but why would you buy native DDR4 2800 memory when you can get DDR4 2133 for cheaper??

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

There's no point in purchasing higher clock speed memory when it'll just be downclocked, but it's not like it's a compatibility issue either.

Mateob51 1 point 11 months ago

Hi, so I'm new to pcs, always been a console person but deciding to make the switch. I have several questions, would any monitor work, when you buy this build, does it come assemlbled or do I have to build it, also if I have to build it is there an option or place that could build it for me? And lastly what parts (software or hardware) do I still need to buy to finish off my pc? ( as in what are wireless adapters etc.) thanks for the help in advance!

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

when you buy this build, does it come assemlbled or do I have to build it,

Generally you order the parts and assemble the PC yourself, but there are some exceptions...

also if I have to build it is there an option or place that could build it for me?

Definitely. Which area do you live in?

And lastly what parts (software or hardware) do I still need to buy to finish off my pc? ( as in what are wireless adapters etc.) thanks for the help in advance!

Operating system, monitor, keyboard, mouse, antivirus, and if you want to use wireless networking, a wireless network adapter.

Retrrro 1 point 11 months ago

Hi I am new to pc gaming, would this be a good pc to play games like Black ops 3, GTA v mods, Gmod, and cs go? Also what knd of monitor would go good with this? Im looking for dual monitors btw. Would the Acer G246HL 24 inch be a good dual monitor for this type of a computer?

santi.mazzzzz 1 point 11 months ago

yes this pc is fine. i would get dual AOC monitors as they have very thin bezels.

Retrrro 1 point 11 months ago

What would be a good monitor to go with this computer? Also what would be a good monitor to go with an xbox one?

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

What are your budgets for each of the monitors you need?

melonheadfred 1 point 11 months ago

Same question here - what would you recommend for a budget of $200 and a budget of $500?

VineetReddy 1 point 11 months ago

We could get i5-6600K and Z170 build for that price instead of i5-6500 and B150. Components are good but that SSD is overkill for that price.

http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/CMrxFT/mid-level-oc-gaming-build

jkeasley 1 point 11 months ago

You've gone with a singular fan gpu, not a good idea. Also, OP has a black and white themed build, you've just gone and gotten the cheapest parts possible needed, then upgraded to a 6600K. For the best price to performance, the 6500 is fine

VineetReddy 0 points 11 months ago

Single fan vs dual or triple fan GTX1070 there is not a big difference. It depends on quality. Zotac dual fan mini and this gigabyte will provide similar temps and performance.

For a budget performance is lot important than looks. i5-6600K performs lot better and gives big fps difference in games like Tomb Raider, Black Ops 3, GTA V and many more.

I did not choose all low price components available if I did that then the build would be with $900 price tag. I went with all high quality components even PSU and Case are of high quality.

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

Single fan vs dual or triple fan GTX1070 there is not a big difference. It depends on quality. Zotac dual fan mini and this gigabyte will provide similar temps and performance.

I'm not really too sure about this...

For a budget performance is lot important than looks. i5-6600K performs lot better and gives big fps difference in games like Tomb Raider, Black Ops 3, GTA V and many more.

If you overclock, yes. Otherwise, no.

I did not choose all low price components available if I did that then the build would be with $900 price tag. I went with all high quality components even PSU and Case are of high quality.

even the PSU and Case are of high quality.

The PSU is the most important part of your computer and should always be at the top of the priority list in terms of being high quality, not just being an "even".

526christian 1 point 11 months ago

The PSU is the most important part of your computer and should always be at the top of the priority list in terms of being high quality, not just being an "even".

He included "even" to help him make his point by putting emphasis on the case and power supply being high quality too.

oberti.rodriguez 1 point 11 months ago

This computer brings all wiring? or I have to buy cables and what they are?

ghosty1r 1 Build 2 points 11 months ago

all cables needed are included in pcu package and case.

LameNoobbuilder420 1 point 11 months ago

Can someone help me out? I'm new to this http://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWnJkT Is this decent?

LemonComputers 2 points 11 months ago

Except for the PSU (the NEX is mediocre), that's a solid build. Also if you don't plan on professional audio kind of usage then you don't need the sound card.

LameNoobbuilder420 1 point 11 months ago

What Psu would you recommend?

LemonComputers 2 points 11 months ago

The G2 and RMx's are good PSUs.

LameNoobbuilder420 1 point 11 months ago

By the way sorry to bother, but what would you recommend for wattage on this build? I wanted to add another gpu maybe in the future.

LemonComputers 1 point 11 months ago

There's no need to apologize for that. 650 watts would be good.

RiverBlue 1 point 11 months ago

What differences would I expect if I purchased the following video card instead? http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10531135121&vpn=TURBO-GTX1060-6G&manufacture=ASUS

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

if you are going with the 1060 i suggest you get a dual fan one from msi,gigabyte etc that way you have higher overclocking capabilities that way its closer on par to the 1070. and the downgrade to 1060 isnt that big specially if you are only doing 1080p monitor. you will still have 60fps+ on all games on max settings.

jondysauce 1 point 11 months ago

What caused this to drop in price so significantly? Last I looked it was just over 1000 bucks. God I almost have to get it now...

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 11 months ago

There's an incorrect price listed. It should be back to normal shortly.

jondysauce 1 point 11 months ago

Ah that's unfortunate. Thanks for the quick reply

FutureTrunks 1 point 11 months ago

New to gaming pc's and trying to get my first gaming one. I've been looking at this build and one other build. Can anyone suggest headsets, a monitor (1080), keyboard, mouse, and OS for this build? Budget all of them as well. The keyboard to preferably be an LED lit one. Thank you for any help you can give me!

soule33 1 point 11 months ago

Will a B150 motherboard support ram above 2133mhz or it will downclock it? Will it cause any performance issue because of downlclocking?

indyofcomo 1 point 11 months ago

The price difference is negligible, but how does this one compare to the streaming/editing staff-posted list by ThoughtA? I am only interested in streaming, not editing. And I don't play super new games, especially not competitive shooters like CS:GO or its ilk.

MaxGie 1 point 11 months ago

Hey guys I want to buy the components and build it at home when it arrives. However I live in Europe in Czech Republic so I have this problem where I don't know where to order it from for the cheapest price. Moreover I would like to know how well it runs CS:GO. FPS act ? Although it is a easy game to run. Than I would like to ask if the motherboard has a wifi adapter. Since my friend bought one withou and than had some problems, getting it.

Thanks for all your replies !

                                                                 MaxGie
tzaimun 1 point 11 months ago

Well, it has no wireless wifi board, This can run cs go fairly easy since cs go isn't a hard to run game (just like u said urself) and this is a pretty good pc.for the cheap price part, i wouldn't know sorry my friend :) what i do know, is that most of the parts have free shipping listed here so shouldn't be too expensive. :)

Jakedubss 1 point 11 months ago

Which site were you able to find the Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor with the stock cooler included at the price listed? I was able to find the CPU at the price listed but the cooler is an additional charge.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 11 months ago

Whichever retailer is shown on the list is the one that's being used currently. The CPU you found may have been an OEM/Tray version. Any "full retail" version will come with a cooler.

Jakedubss 1 point 11 months ago

Thanks. I'll continue searching.

Matttttttttttttt 1 point 11 months ago

I was hoping for some help.

I've built computers a few times in the past, but always with someone who knew what they were doing and myself just observing.

So I bought this computer, all the exact parts listed, and I'm having some trouble. The f_panel pins are kind of poorly labelled (not obvious what is + and what is -) and I think I'm plugging them into the wrong places. I have everything set up, plugged in, and when I hit the power button, nothing happens.

While I was testing to try to figure out what I did wrong, I tried pretty much every f_panel configuration that might make sense.

I thought maybe the power supply was faulty, but I tested it independently and it works. Also, if I turn on the power supply with only the big motherboard power cord plugged in, I get activity on the CPU fan and the video card fans, but when I plug in everything else, all that activity ceases.

Matttttttttttttt 1 point 11 months ago

Just updating on my progress. Still not turning on at all. It's not the f_panel either, I've ruled that out at this point. Honestly, I'm just scratching my head. With only one of the RAM sticks plugged in and everything unplugged except the mobo and CPU, I still can't get it to turn on. I think the only option left is that I got a bad case.

Any speculation as to what my problem might be would be greatly appreciated.

Bruckis 1 point 11 months ago

Just wondering, does thin computer Handel games like overwatch and Star Wars battlefront? And I live in Sweden, can you get the order there

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 11 months ago

This can handle any game out there. For the parts I don't know, you may need to adjust the partlist based on what is available to you.

Lionflame 1 point 11 months ago

Do i need to get a Internet card or wifi card what ever they are called to be able to connect to the wifi?

MMR 1 point 11 months ago

Hello there Which one is better for 1080p 60fps ultra/high for the next 3 years? gtx 1060 paired with core i7 6700 or gtx 1070 paired with core i5 6500?

tzaimun 1 point 11 months ago

Hey, i'm new to pc building and have always been using crappy laptops... I have no clue how to build the pc or what so ever, is the a possibility to get someone build it for me? and what would the expenses be ? thanks a lot :)

kekerson 1 point 11 months ago

Do I need to add case coolers? I don't feel like this will keep cool over long periods of gaming

AlphaTech 1 point 11 months ago

Hi, just wondering were there any alternative MOBO's to this build that functions the same. Even though I think that this is a great build I just do not like the choice of MOBO.

Max_Caval 1 point 11 months ago

with this build could you get >= 60 fps at 1440 144 hz ? for example if you play a game like Dishonored II ? if not what would you need to add/replace to get that Elite level of smoothness ?! Thanks

NPO 1 point 11 months ago

Why the high bandwidth memory? This board only supports DDR4 @ 2133mhz right?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 11 months ago

It's the cheapest kit of memory with the given parameters at the moment. If the memory used is higher than the motherboard supports and the motheboard doesn't support XMP, the memory will simply downclock to a speed that is supported.

N8_86 1 point 11 months ago

Ok this is going to be my first pc build so please excuse my stupid questions, but if I were to order every part on the list what else would I need to any wires, adapters, etc. Thank You

Hunter_309 1 point 11 months ago

Hi, im really new to pc building or anything and i was wondering if there is a specific tutorial on youtube for this build?

mrd188 1 point 11 months ago

Hello,

I am looking to build this PC this Black Friday/cyber Monday, but I wanted to future proof a little bit and get a a motherboard which could run GPUs in SLI. Also if this is bad idea let me know. thanks

joncourt 1 point 10 months ago

Hey guys, I'm new to PC building. I've had some friends help me pick out some parts but I figured I'd ask the community for some help as well. I'm not trying to over clock at all, I'm just trying to murder games in 1080p. Is this setup pretty good? Im buying a EVGA 970 ftw edition from my friend. should I fork a some more money and get the 1070?Anything I can do better for cheaper or anything better in general? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LXQWBP

autoentropy 1 point 10 months ago

Will this build fit in a BitFenix Prodigy Mini ITX Tower Case?

COLDHEARTEDKILLA 1 point 10 months ago

one thing i would like to change with the build and wouldnt afffect perfomance would be the gtx 1060 superclock its 260$ instead of a very expensive 400$ u can over clock this version of the 1060 to run a little better than the 1070 im talkin about 10 to 5 frames better but to overclock it i would reccommend this program claaed msi afterbuner it help ur pc to stretch what it has to its limits any way thats what i think colud have gone better with the build but it is still a good build if u wana get started playing heavier demanding games like bf1, witcher 3 etc anyways see ya later

ronzzzzz 1 point 10 months ago

Hi I changed some parts to make it more 'whitish' , will this still be good ? and I'm planning to have the Geil Super Luce 2x8gb 2133 16gb white white led CL15 (GLWW416GB2133C15) but its not in the list and I'm not so familiar with it , just want to know if you have any idea with the product. Also, I'm deciding whether to get the Galax GTX 1060 HOF or the one in the list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $190.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard MSI B150M MORTAR ARCTIC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $81.98 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $39.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $48.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card $259.99 @ Newegg
Case NZXT Phantom 240 ATX Mid Tower Case $55.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $62.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $904.79
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $884.79
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-26 14:23 EST-0500
Takeone 1 point 10 months ago

Hi I've never built a PC. My kid wants to play Sims on PC and I'm pretty sure that can run on something from best buy but I want more room to expand. So will this or the budget build even run without a video card? I'm thinking I buy and build with her the machine minus the card for Xmas and she can buy the card on her own. Terrible idea? Not possible?

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

it can and you will probably be fine with sims and the cpu's graphic card until you get the 1070. it took me 3 weeks after finishing this build to get the graphics card and I was running all my games fine at low settings without the graphics card.

Takeone 1 point 10 months ago

Thank you. I ended up getting a Xmas bonus so I'll probably be able to get a card.

parkerkeller 1 point 10 months ago

hopefully this isn't a silly question, but if I don't anticipate downloading lots of stuff (probably will really only be downloading games) due to most of my stuff being cloud based (netflix, spotify, etc), does it matter if I skip the second 2 TB hd and just rely on the 480 gb ssd? or is it better to have two separate ones in case of a failure or something? and how hard would it be to buy/install the extra hd in the future if i found that I do actually need it?

Frostiikiller 1 point 10 months ago

I'm actually only running a 240 GB SSD in my current build, and it works just fine for me. The chance of a failure is quite small in newer SSD's. Installing a hard drive in the future is as simple as buying it, plugging in a SATA cables and dropping it in the drive bay. Super easy if you decide you want to do it in the future.

RYANITE 1 point 10 months ago

can this pc run the newest games on 60 fps 4k ultra?

Frostiikiller 1 point 10 months ago

No, more than likely not. You would probably need to up the processor to 6600k and the GPU to a 1080. 4k is quite a demanding resolution.

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

I tried 4k with the 1070 oc card and this same build the only game it didn't run at 60 fps was watchdogs 2 I think it sat around 55 fps, my current monitor is only 1080p so I haven't tested my entire library with 4k. everything gets destroyed with 1080p 144mhz tho with fps ranging from 70-300 depending on the game

kilomike 1 point 10 months ago

for this build, you would need a cpu cooling system also right??

johnkolodziejski 1 point 10 months ago

I built this rig last night and I'm having an issue where the system turns on, the fans and lights all kick on, but the machine turns off after about ten seconds and starts the boot process over. No post, no beeps, no video out.

I had some issues determining where the case fan connects (there is virtually no instructions included with the mobo) and wound up using the 12v connection from the PSU. All the fans turn on but it seems like the machine is either overheating and shutting down or shorting out somewhere. Additionally, there's an LED connector that comes from the front of the case that looks like it would connect to the motherboard...but the cable is about three inches long and is nowhere near where the mobo sits.

From what I've read and heard anecdotally it's most likely a wiring problem...does anyone have any specific tips or instructions with wiring this motherboard and this case? I also have the intention to try a different power supply to isolate that issue.

Thanks for the help! Jack

ronzzzzz 1 point 10 months ago

Where did you put the two memory modules ? If you followed everything on this build , put the two memory modules on two gray memory slot

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

I have this same build with only the case and storage being slightly different, for the motherboard to led issue I used a cable that the psu comes with as a extension hopefully we have the same type of cables. I was having the same issue and yes it was the wiring for me, I downloaded a more expansive manual from gigabyte website.

DanOnTheRun 1 point 10 months ago

Having the same issue. Any help would be appreciated.

DanOnTheRun 1 point 10 months ago

Here, bud. Asked for help on reddit and one guy helped me eliminate some things. Good luck to you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5i0ecj/first_time_build_keeps_shutting_down_no_picture/

johnkolodziejski 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks man, I appreciate that. I actually tried all that and RMA'd the mother board after trying a different power supply. Still got exactly the same problem.

kilomike 1 point 10 months ago

I am a first time builder and have a few questions, hopefully you can help!

-would a CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM be compatible with this build -for a wired WIFI adapter, what would be compatible with this build for around $70 or less

ronzzzzz 1 point 10 months ago

Cryorig H7 would be a great cooling fan for this build.

toiletsnakes 1 point 10 months ago

Another noob here..

Will this work with a Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case? Also, I am wondering if I would need to get sound cards and/or network adapters?

Teslahaha 1 point 10 months ago

Pretty good price!! The only issue is that it doesn't have optical drives, which is kind of important for me since I do play some games on disc...

Osmin 1 point 10 months ago

Hey guys I am currently sitting on an i5 4460 processor I was wondering if this build would be much better with an i7 6700k or if I should just keep my current processor (if I'm going to spend the money to change my processor I really want a big upgrade)

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

I'd say sit tight. 4460's still a pretty good chip.

DanOnTheRun 1 point 10 months ago

Hey guys, so I'm absolutely new to building and am now realizing (after I've gotten all the parts and half of it set up) that I have no idea where to plug in the wires on the motherboard. Does anyone know of any good guides that are more catered to this build? Also, the case provides 2 fans, but the plug for them doesn't match my motherboard. Please help!

Whalepimp 1 point 10 months ago

Would this still work if i added the NZXT S340 (Black/Red) case

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Yes.

Whalepimp 1 point 10 months ago

Please, not everybody at once

Damone8 1 point 10 months ago

I have only built one PC, so out of curiosity.. could I use this build but take my current GPU, the Radeon R9 280 instead of upgrading to the 1070? It is compatible with the motherboard and CPU correct? I ask because I need a mobo, cpu, and ram upgrade and I like the look of the board and 6500 but feel my gpu is still capable of what I want to do. Thanks for the help in advance!

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 10 months ago

R9 280 will drop right in.

Damone8 1 point 10 months ago

Or even if I upped it to the 6600/6600k rather the 6500..

Sinbuster 1 point 10 months ago

Hello. Great website, very helpful.

I like a lot from this build except for the cpu. In your mind would it be worth upgrading to, say, the 4690K - and subsequently changing my choice of motherboard and RAM? I do like the built-in fan (which saves me money) but was having trouble finding a good motherboard and RAM to accompany it. Could you offer some advice?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

If you want to upgrade the CPU, 6600K's a better bet than 4690K. Prices are just about the same, so unless there's some old components you're trying to integrate, I don't see the benefit of going Haswell.

Also, what do you mean about the MB and RAM?

Forbidding 1 point 10 months ago

Hello.

I started buying parts for this build but I noticed you changed some of the parts, and I purchased the NZXT S340 Mid tower case that was on this list before. I'm just curious if that case will still work with the rest of the parts here? Since it was a micro atx gtx 1070 before, I'm a little confused and worried. I'm not good with this stuff haha, any feedback would be appreciated.

4IRS0FT 1 point 10 months ago

If you could name all the parts you have previously purchased Ill be able to run a full compat check for you

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

the case is nice and roomy so it will be fine, i have this same build but with a asus strix 1070, the card is huge about 3 times the size of the micro gtx 1070. the way the part filter works makes it so that the parts on this list change based on whats cheaper atm.

Forbidding 1 point 10 months ago

Ahh gotcha, thanks for the info. The last thing I'm worried about is the size of the graphics card in comparison to the motherboard (I have the motherboard in this build) and I'm thinking of picking up this http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jygPxr/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-turbo-gtx1070-8g . Would there be any issues there?

LucidVisions11 1 point 10 months ago

If you're using this for just streaming purposes would there be a need for the GTX 1070 here? Or could you just take the GPU out completely?

TeddyLopez 1 point 10 months ago

can I overclock this?

ThatGuyBen 1 point 10 months ago

Hi there. Would this run Arma3, Battlefield 1, and stuff like that without much problem? I have an AMD HD 6900 series paired with an Intel Core i7 860. While not educated on the subject all that much, I assume that to you...that would explain my poor Dayz/Arma 3 performance. I'm either looking to get a new build entirely or upgrade what I can to my current system.

ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

i would go for the upgrade, this build plays those games on ultra settings without a sweat.

ThatGuyBen 1 point 10 months ago

I guess mainly I'm concerned about the CPU holding up to games like Dayz/Arma 3. Decent FPS, I'm not looking to wow with my 100+ fps but I do want performance that wont get me killed in various situations/encounters like it has in the past.

scipiosean 1 point 10 months ago

Hey can somebody help me out i'm really new to this and haven't built a pc in my entire life. Would this be a good pc and would there be anyway to bring down the price without a huge performance drop. thanks! https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ <-------- the pc.

TeddyLopez 1 point 10 months ago

DUDE THE PRICE IS WRONG. I THOUGHT I COULD AFFORD BUT THE GRAPHIC'S PRICE IS 50$ MORE

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ghosty1r 1 Build 1 point 11 months ago

if you are running this build with a 1080p monitor you should be good for the next 2 years on max settings. what will affect game performance the most is the graphics card you can go with the 1080 instead of the 1070 to be on the super safe side both of those are currently among the 3 best gpu's atm so aside from that there is nothing more you can do to insure that you will be future-proof. the cpu and ram will not bottleneck the current generation of gpu's and probably still good for the next gen.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 11 months ago

Next Gen isn't out....Its going to be probably a decade before we get next gen games since the generations are determined by consoles. The Pro and whatever Xbox isn't a true new generation since they still have the same potato CPU which is going to hold devs back and they will need to make games work on both consoles so we are still in the current gen and haven't moved any.

This build will have no problem murdering games at 1080P for years to come.

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