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Guide

Athlon X4 860K / Radeon R9 270 Gaming PC

Description

We've worked with Newegg to put together this build guide. They kindly put together a combo deal for an extra $72.94 savings. Nice!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2383674

We've also created a build video using these exact parts - you can find the video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tcTo5pM4I

The AMD X4 860K is a fantastic budget gaming CPU that provides great performance at stock speeds but can also be overclocked if you need a little extra boost. Depending on your overclock, you may consider upgrading the stock cooler to a higher performing model.

The Rosewill Stealth is great case for users who want room for expansion and clean cabling. The cable routing holes simplify wire management and with 8x internal 3.5” bays there is enough space for almost any storage setup. The case comes with red LED fans to give the build a bit of flair and a side panel window to enjoy the view.

Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities. See details below.

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CPU AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor
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Motherboard Asus CROSSBLADE RANGER ATX FM2+ Motherboard
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Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
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Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
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Video Card XFX Radeon R9 270 2 GB Core Edition Video Card
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Case Rosewill STEALTH ATX Mid Tower Case
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Power Supply Rosewill 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
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Total: €38.49

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Potential Issues / Incompatibilities

  • Warning!Some AMD A88X chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaveri CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
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Comments

  • 58 months ago
  • 14 points

I think this is one of the very few times that I really have to question your guys' part reasoning. That motherboard. Really? Almost spending as much as you would on your GPU on a motherboard? Plus the GPU is kinda poorly priced as some R9 280s are dipping down into this price range. The PSU is also in an odd position where if you were to get a cheaper motherboard you could easily afford a high end PSU.

I know that Newegg sponsors these, and I'm...okay with them as a company but they're not very competitive. I love how they show "Competitors" on the right side under "More Buying Options" that are just pure crap. Like, if they wanted to actually compete they'd show places like NCIX or Superbiiz instead of some place called "Geeone".

So to end this, I respect your guys' builds as you normally make good choices but I feel you missed the ball on this one. Just feels overall overpriced on both the part selection front and the company sponsor.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

i agree with you on this +1

LTT proven the Gaming mobo are for the bling, not for performance

860K with stock cooler is a no-no

280 are dropping prices with the R9 300 series coming real soon

and EVGA,Seasonic and CoolerMaster VSM/V PSU are the suggested PSU to get these days

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah I feel the same I made this build list that I think really beats this http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/T4MnTW/athlon-860k-r9-285

  • 58 months ago
  • 5 points

Please do more builds like this. The comments section is an absolute pleasure to read xD.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Lol I saw the build and just knew what the comments were going to be about.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

This is a neat deal from Newegg, thanks for highlighting it. While the motherboard's an odd choice at this price point, it makes sense if you're hoping to attempt to squeeze every last drop of OC out of that 860K and crossfire that 270.

Newegg generally guides people in the right direction; while we might optimize a much better build at the same price point based on current market trends for individual parts that we can take advantage of, Newegg must act a little more slowly than that to make the deal last any decent amount of time, and they can only offer discounts with the marketing dollars at their disposal. In that regard, this is a particularly noteworthy build from Newegg because it's really not a terrible gaming machine.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

This pc is really weird.. for $650 you could get a fx-8320 and r9 280.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

it's a combo from newegg. If you buy all in newegg you get it for $565. That's why it's here, because of the combo price.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Yay! Another sponsored build.......... :(

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Is there an issue? Would you prefer we not get combo deal discounts set up?

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

I just figured out a way to rectify this!!!

Just put a little * or note saying this is sponsored??? Yes! genius! That way there's complete transparency.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

And also a disclaimer stating that some of the parts can be substituted for equivalents with a much more reasonable price tag. With a couple of example parts. Which is what awesomesauce did in his overkill pc console killer part.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

That's nice too though then Phillip could argue that part availability would make that difficult.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

No matter the part selection, there will always be people who disagree with the choices. There's a link that you can use to edit the part list to your choosing. No one is forcing you or anyone to use this exact set of parts if you don't want to.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

We provide links to both edit the part list to your choosing and see it with prices from all retailers.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Is there an issue?

A more ethical issue more then anything else.

Would you prefer we not get combo deal discounts set up?

Well if it saves people cash then it's a good idea (I don't benefit fit from these so I can't comment on that), however it's clear that these deals are swayed by newegg and other retailers.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

What specific ethical issue? If you mean that different retailers have constraints that affect part selection, then yes. I can't just pull parts out of the air and expect them to have sufficient stock to keep a deal viable for the full duration. We also have to work far enough in advance to make sure things we really want are going to come in. I.e. a case we wanted to use two builds ago only had 5 in stock, with a shipment set to arrive two weeks after the planned publish date of the guide. So we had to swap it out, and people complained asking why we didn't use case X.

The guides are just guides. There's nothing at all preventing you from editing the part list, making desired changes to add, remove, or adjust things. Nothing prevents you from using a different retailer either if you find better deals.

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

What specific ethical issue? If you mean that different retailers have constraints that affect part selection, then yes. I can't just pull parts out of the air and expect them to have sufficient stock to keep a deal viable for the full duration.

That's part of it. I can understand part availability being a constraint. My gripe(?) is that being a staff member (owner) of a fairly well established website/business has it's own unintended influence over users thought process (the notion that you selected it means quality, or that it's a reasonable choice). Now, i'm not stating that you can do anything to rectify that, obviously you have no control over what you do/do not influence but unless these combo "deals" are essential to your websites life then I personally don't think you should do them (At-least not sponsored guides, I love your normal ones!)

The guides are just guides. There's nothing at all preventing you from editing the part list, making desired changes to add, remove, or adjust things. Nothing prevents you from using a different retailer either if you find better deals.

Oh agreed however I counter this with the argument that many users have very little - no knowledge of computer parts and will automatically select these guides as viable builds (I've seen it in all of your staff guides, mainly Manirelli's) so it's an un-conscientious decision to select these based upon your status rather then the quality/cost-effective nature of the parts selected, at least where knowledge is of a limited capacity.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey man everyone's gotta make money nothing wrong with a little sponsorships I gotta agree with eschaton, the only crime commited here is that he could've put a much more cost friendly build still using parts ALL being sold at newegg, for the same price but way more powerful, why that wasn't done idk but either way it's not really a big deal and like Eschaton said nothing we're burdened with.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Godz, PCPP's life depends on a genial relationship between it and the constituent merchant sites that it is allowed to get all this data from. They should be allowed to advertise on behalf of these business partners whenever they feel like it; it's just part of the cost (which we as end-users aren't even burdened with) of running a site like this.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

IMO this may be a better build with more speed and power and the cpu can run cooler

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g8VsrH

the mobo is really overkill when it has been proven by LinusTechTips that gaming mobo dont make any difference in fps

cut back and swap to a normal A88X and you can fit a CM 212 Evo, SSD and even a R9 280

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

well, obviously a mob does't increase fps, that could be proven by anyone. it offers no actual parts that increase graphical horsepower or anything.

people buy expensive mobo's for features, reliability, OC'ing, and aesthetics.

oc'ing is an actual fps boost if you wanna count that as a trait of the motherboard, which i do.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I like it! How about http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vDtczy ?

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

IMO dual GPUs will be more of a hassle than a good thing

with the budget you are paying for dual 280s

you be better off with a single 290X or the 390X

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  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah I don't really know about this build but mines is more or less the same price and I think it's a much better bang for your buck, http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/T4MnTW/athlon-860k-r9-285

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

The mother board is way to expensive :P

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

The Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-UP4 is just as good a motherboard as the Crossblade Ranger, minus all of the gimmicky Supreme FX stuff. I would save 70 bucks and upgrade to a better GPU.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

What an absolute terrible build for the price...

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

get a cheaper psu and motheerboard and get a more expesive gpu

  • 57 months ago
  • 2 points

I would like to build something similar to this for my friend but I am unsure about the warning about it needing a bios update, did you need to update the bios on it before using it?

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

woahhh wrong MoBo :P

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Why do you recommend this motherboard over other A88X motherboards, which cost $50? What makes it stand out?

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

Very little.... It's a sponsored build which is why the Newegg combo exists.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

We're doing a build with an A88X next month (and we just did a livestream build with the A88X Pro two weeks ago).

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

So, you are trying to say that the reasons why this motherboard is recommended over other ones is in the livestream, made two weeks ago? Was it uploaded/archived somewhere? How can I access it?

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Our current plan - not completely locked in of course - is to use the A88X Pro in a featured guide in about a month.

We tried doing the livestream through Periscope. I won't be doing that again - the resolution was (predictably) terrible and it's impossible to link to the stream via the web. I've uploaded it to youtube here, but just be warned that the resolution is terrible, the audio equally so, and it's in portrait mode...

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

is there anyway you can make this combo available for people in nz pleaseee :DD

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm still a bit confused about the Anthlon X4. Is it supposed to be a "beefy" budget processor?

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

it beats the G3258 in multi threaded application and games where quad core are kings

sure the Pentiums beats in single core performance

but that CPU is not build for multi tasking

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

So, I would buy either one of them for cramming it into a pc grandpa can use?

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

yes kinda

unless you got a cool grandpa who plays BF4 or CS:GO :P

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

He has a GameBoy color with the original Mario Bros. Coolness just went over9000.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

oh does he play Pokemon? XD

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I want to double the ram and add a second video card but It looks like the power supply won't let me. I have to keep the ram at 8GB to avoid the error message.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QBZk3C

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

gpus draw a lot of power

and that puny 500 watt will not support dual 270s

you need at least a 650 to 700 watt PSU

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

And you didn't just go with a single 970GTX... why?

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Spend 100 on the MOBO then add a 120GB SSD, like an 850 evo

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Here is a comparable (perhaps better) Intel build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7LLCP6

Rather heavy on the MIR's though.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Not a bad combo if you include that 72$ savings from newegg. True i would've gone with a cheaper mobo and upgraded that GPU. Thing is however if i ever need to upgrade that GPU it will be a piece of cake and i could sell that one and make some money back. BTW newegg says there is a build video on this on, can someone hyperlink it for me? thanks.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

I'm running a bit behind on the video. I should have the editing for it finished tonight (and uploaded shortly after).

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

ok cool thanks. My dad thinks im incapable of picking the parts out myself so hopefully this satisfies him :) Will you show any video of it turned on and working lol?

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I typically don't record the booting / testing process, but rest assured I do make sure all the builds work properly before uploading the videos.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

ok im sure that will be good enough for him. thanks again.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a no from me.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I think the Motherboard is fine, it offers a chance to crossfire in the future and AMD's newest socket for upgradeability, albeit, not the best upgrade path. Well done. IMO

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm still working out how this can be so god damn expensive?!? It has an x4 860k for god sake :D

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you tell us your FPS on games such as CS:GO, LoL or whatever. Cheers.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

+1

Nice build guide.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

You really need to pump up the gpu and cpu, the motherboard, power supply and case are MUCH to expensive. Otherwise, cool build brah!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

This is nearly the exact build I put together over the weekend. Ha!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

So yeah, I think this build is a bit overpriced. The Crossblade Ranger is absolutely the board to get for OC'ing but there's no aftermarket cooler in the build. The case is also a bit expensive for a budget build. I'd go with the Corsair Spec Red.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xrDn4D

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

The aftermarket cooler will help OCing (though the cheaper mobo will hurt it.) And I'm not sure why you went for fast memory when this build doesn't really need it, but if you dropped the SSD you could be up to a 290. Or an i5. Personally I would prefer a stronger CPU (though I'm a bit of a power user) to that SSD. The SP600 is already a slow SSD, it's small capacity (even slower), and it will only hold a game or two + the OS. I love the speed, but an SSD isn't really worth it on this build.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

this architecture benefits from faster memory. As for the SSD, it's fine if it can handle one or two games, it's purpose is only to launch the OS and apps faster. Extra space after that are for those few games that REALLY need it.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Not saying there's something wrong with the SSD, just that the $50 could be much better allocated.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Just cut the motherboard and get fx 6300 -.- it will be cheaper and no overclocking can get 2 more cores performance.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

It can when games don't really use more than 4 threads. Cores =/= performance. Try gaming on 2 18 core xeons. It will work, but not like a single fast i7 will.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

And then BOOOM http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wdw83C you have got 20 times better build for the same money -.-

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I saw this build before.....in my toilet this morning.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

This build is getting a lot of love.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I have a build that's a lot like this one. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor -
Motherboard MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard $57.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $107.27 @ Adorama
Storage Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $129.98 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card $154.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $57.60 @ Newegg
Optical Drive Lite-On IHAS324-07 DVD/CD Writer $22.01 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $639.72
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-21 07:40 EDT-0400
  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Made the same build but with a monitor and better gpu.......... Pffffff staff builds

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

As a budget builder who built a rig just like this, I can say that this list on track but overpriced. I did use a refurbished GPU, and did shop around, and got away with it for $450, almost $200 cheaper than this guide.

(An cheaper version of this list, only using NCIX, Newegg, and other local retailers (Best Buy, Micro Center, etc.))

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $69.99 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler $19.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ ATX FM2+ Motherboard $76.99 @ Newegg
Memory *Team Elite Plus 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $43.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card $149.99 @ Newegg
Case BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case $34.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $29.99 @ NCIX US
Optical Drive *LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $14.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $517.91
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $487.91
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-26 03:14 EDT-0400
  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

$617 is good for a budget built but how about this? PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/j7rdTW

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.99 @ NCIX US) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.45 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus A88XM-E Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($51.49 @ OutletPC) Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ Best Buy) Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 370 4GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Total: $528.88

Same great processor. If you plan on doing more than word processing at below 100 degrees Fahrenheit you need something better than a stock cooler. If this is really an htpc then you need a microatx and the crossblade ranger is expensive because it is a gaming mobo. 2133 ram explains itself. Never cheap out on a GPU. Get the strix 370 with 4 gigs of gddr5. Looks are important and so is cooling. The n200 has great cooling and looks. 80+ gold is good effeincy and fully modular is a must have. For those of you who want to go farther for almost $100 less build this.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

For an extra five dollars you cannot have a better build than this.

Some nice features are: 120gb ssd, 16 GB 1866 ram, Stylish case with many included fans, 80+ gold fully modular psu, and Strix 300 series GPU with 4 GB gddr5

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yFfsFT

Enjoy!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

TBH, this isn't a really good build. You could've gotten away with a cheaper motherboard that does the same thing and with that extra money you could have got an SSD. The case is also expensive. You could have cut the price down on that and have gotten a better Graphics Card. AMD the CPU. I managed to fit a AMD FX 8320 while still being cheaper than yours. I wouldn't recommend this build to anyone. Sorry. :(

On a good note, I have made a cheaper 600$ AMD build that has better specs than yours. I would recommend to change this build to more like mine. Sorry if I'm a bit negative. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Pvz83C

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I still can't get over how overpriced the board is

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Very poor build in this price you can get i5 + R9 380 example https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/79CmP6/777-cad-i5-r9-380-4gb-canada-pricing

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for this! I've been googling the past few months for a new PC for gaming and no matter what I look at there is this ghost on the internet that made a home inside the back of my head. Maybe others have experienced this. I started looking at gaming laptops thinking, "Man, I wish these weren't so expensive, guess I'll have to save for a little while longer." That ghost in the back of my head seemed to talk to me any time I began looking online for a computer. It would say, "Build it you ****, and they will come."

Anyhooz, for some reason I changed my mind, don't know why, and decided I'd build a computer even though I have never done such a thing. Sounds stupid, I know, who builds their own computers? So I went to my cousin's house (he builds PCs) and watched him take apart and put together a computer and thought, "wow, that's not so difficult." Then I watched your video and thought, "whoa that's even easier."

Long story short, I'm gonna build this computer thanks to the folks on this website and I think that's really cool so thank you. Oh and thanks to newegg as well because I probably would have picked something else if not for the discount.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

This seems like it would be a budget build. Why would the case be more than the CPU??? Also, that's a pretty expensive motherboard. The money needs to be spread around efficiently

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

what is the fps if i play DOTA 2 in this setup??

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

This was my first build and i am very happy with the results. I swapped out the heat sink provided with the CPU for a Cool Master Hyper 212 with an additional fan and CPU is running nice and cool. I also added an optical drive. One snag I did run into when loading by Windows 7 OS. The first install screen turned off my keyboard and mouse, leaving me stranded. Called Microsoft and found out that the install program only supports USB 2. Moved my mouse and Keyboard to USB2 slots and off the the races. Hooked up an Acer 24" LED monitor with a 144mhz refresh rate and everything is running fine and looking great. Thanks PCPartsPicker.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

i would have gone with a micro atx setup and using the maybe $40 that you saved you could get a gtx 960, an ssd, or you could have just saved the money.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't see why everybody is drooling over this build. The processor has great value, the mobo is too expensive, if it's a gaming computer why not 16 gigs, why no ssd, how about 4 gig r7 370 strix, a better looking case, and better psu. Since it is also a htpc it should be micro atx. I provided the link to mine below so you guys could check it out. I know it is good because I built it for a friend. Also, nothing below an 8350 with the exception of the 6350 can outperform the 860k. Comment if you have a better build than this. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gBzd23

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Can someone tell me if a Cooler Master VSM 650W semi-modular would work as a replacement for the power supply here and if it would be better/worse?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

After you build this can you buy different parts and swap them in easily or do these parts work best?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Can someone please help me understand what all the numbers by the parts mean? I'm assuming the higher the numbers the better?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

The pricing for the V-card here isn't listed anymore. But over all a good guide :D.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

lol bad build crazy expensive mobo for that cpu, case is pricy g3258 craps on the 860k in everything and is cheaper

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Why is their no SSD?

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

After running my first SSD in my recent build, I'd almost have to agree... Even if it's a tiny one just large enough to stuff Windows on it, it's swapfile and a handful of programs.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Absolutely agree here, I've been rockin a 60gig Intel 320 (? I forget the model number ATM) for a few years now and it's f'n awesome, even at sata2 (old mobo) speeds the difference it makes to windows is amazing and I think anyone who spends a lot of time using a PC in ways other than gaming^ is missing out on the most cost effective upgrade available.

In my experience 60gig is totally viable as a low end baseline (I'm a multitasking monster) and they're available for $40 now (! mine was $100 lol), ATM arc100 120gig is $45 (promo & mir) which is an outstanding deal, and even tho I totally don't need a larger one I wish I had the money spare for the upgrade :-D

I just wanna add if anyone's thinking about getting a ssd YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DO IT :-D

^ IMO gamers can benefit too ofc tho if the routine is turn on PC > game > turn off PC it's prolly not such a big deal, especially on a tight budget

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

so i went and made a build guide thats way better then this lol. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gsD3Q7

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

your build is not better than this...

860k>FX-6300

R9 270> 750ti

not to mention your build is more expensive

this is a better build

http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/hqH9TW/athlon-860k-r9-285

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I would rather buy devydee's build than ankou's build.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

this build dosent include operating system, besides i have plans to overclock.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Operating systems don't cost any money if you know what you're doing ;)

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

good thing i know what im doing, but i prefer physical copy. i can go down to the college and get one for free.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

That's the Spirit! :D

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  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Why would the fx-6300 be better?

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

facepalm

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

...more cores doesn't make a cpu better.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

guyzz the cpu is innocent in this build :P

Thumbs up for cpu :D

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

i don't know how but i made a same build for at 700$ that actually has more storage, a monitor, Blu-ray, and WiFi. i changed mobo which is overpriced for what you get check it out http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dK44Q7

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

You will need a fm2 cpu to update the bios to use kaveri on that mobo. Plus the manufacturers bios updates for that board dont work properly with the 860k, it causes crashing for PCIE 3.0. You have to contact support to get the fixed driver

  • 58 months ago
  • -1 points

Would have gotten a gigabyte ud3p mobo and a better Gpu for the price. Not even an SSD. Also I would have gotten an Fx cpu and AM3+ mobo for a better upgrade path.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

AM3+ is supposedly a dead socket, after the "E" variants of the 8320 and 8370 iirc there will be no more CPU's released for that socket. FM2+ on the other hand should see at least the 870k when ever it is released.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

not completely true AMD is said to release a new set of cpus (more powerful single cores) in 2016, although its not sure if its AM3+ or completely new we can still hope :P

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Zen? Iirc the roadmap from a month or so ago that's gonna be fm3 am4.

edit. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9231/amds-20162017-x86-roadmap-zen-is-in

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

ahh no not zen some budget0like cpus like the FX-series but with better perf more efficiency etc :P

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

It will be AM3+, but it will be a refresh, so yes. You will need as new motherboard for it.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

It's slightly better but CPU price vs CPU price, you're paying 96 dollars more for Intel. I'd rather take the overclocked 860K which somewhat closes the gap on the i5. Plus, if I were to copy some of his build and apply it to my 860k build, it would make the 860k cheaper.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm sure you'll get a huge OC without a CPU cooler.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

sort by newest. My 860K build has a CPU cooler.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry about that mess, I'm new here and guess I have some formatting stuff to learn lmao

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

What does this have to do with the 860K??

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

My bad, it appears I clicked on the wrong part of the screen when I went to reply. Tired eyes and all that, best string me up now lol All sorted, I moved my reply to a more appropriate place.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Change what?

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

This specific part list is tied to a combo deal at Newegg that we're unable to change. Our featured guide goes through a rotation - the next one will be up on Monday.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

For a low budget gaming pc a quad core is all you need. The only thing in the same ballpark that intel offers are dual cores, not particularly good for gaming, even if single threaded performance is better.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

The athlon is a slow and old CPU...

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

once again in that price range it reigns king. And as this build is targeted towards gaming it means a lightning fast i7 isn't needed, nor would it affect FPS by any more than 5% with that card.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

no it doesn't. I made a better build for 200 cheaper..

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

link me a cpu thats better than that for 75$.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

take your trolling back to Gamefaqs

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

What trolling? I never troll unlike you.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

you troll ALL THE TIME LOL. You are wrong on EVERYTHING and it's starting to get a bit sad on Gfaqs.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

We're happy to entertain constructive feedback.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

I made a better build.. I would of added a 280x in it but the site didn't have any for listings..

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BdG3Q7

Its also 200 bucks less or so.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 6 points

While this is true, IMHO the motherboard is one thing you really don't want to skimp on. With that said, this motherboard is one of the best for the FM2+ socket. I have really enjoyed and appreciate the features of it with my recent build. Anyone who is considering doing serious overclocking with the 860K should highly consider it IMHO.

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Not sure who downvoted you, but I completely agree on this, especially if you plan on OC. I will never buy a budget motherboard for any rig I plan to game or OC on.

  • 58 months ago
  • 4 points

Why would you OC with a budget PC like this? OCing with a budget build is risky since the parts are not top quality. You run the risk of burning out components or having inconsistent results.

This is why more expensive components actually feature OCing as a selling point. Budget motherboards are great for gaming if you stay within their limits.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I also agree, personally i went with the G.1 Sniper Gigabyte for roughly $120 for my build overall i spent roughly $900 on mine. What are you using for cooling?

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

On one of my builds I use a Corsair H55 and on the other I have an Antec Kuhler 620.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

I haven't done much research on cooling so I don't know about the Antec Kuhler 620(how do you like it?). I do love those corsairs though, i picked you the H80i for mine. A buddy of mine got the h100 but his case it alot bigger than mine and it wouldnt fit in mine so i had to bump it down. Maybe later i will look into getting a new case or custom building one

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Let's say you have $650 to spend on a build. Would you rather get a bit of performance OCing on a really nice board, or would you rather have the i5 which will just flat out perform better even if you OCed that chip to 5ghz and a 290 over a 270? OCing is to get more performance from your hardware, but that's pointless when the money you spend on it winds up getting youless perf than you could otherwise.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

This build is $550.... show me i5 + 290 for the same price.

  • 58 months ago
  • 4 points

This build is $640. Without a CPU cooler, so you're not going to be getting too much OCing done. I dunno what you're talking about with $550. (Also, ellipses have three dots.) If you feel too little was spent on the case and all that you can go down to a 280 or 280x or an i3. I really prefer to have a full quad core, so I would downgrade the video card, but your choice.

Edit: Whoops I posted an unfinished version of the build. Here's a full one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $176.98 @ NCIX US
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $48.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB TurboDuo Video Card $234.99 @ Newegg
Case Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case $23.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $712.91
Mail-in rebates -$65.00
Total $647.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 19:34 EDT-0400
  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry, I now see that there is a $70 off the entire list I can only fit in an i5 and 280 for that price. Still much better than this build. If you want to complain about mine being $15 more, you can drop to a 270x or cut the money out of it somewhere else.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $176.98 @ NCIX US
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H97M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $48.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card $149.99 @ Newegg
Case Xion XON-310_BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case $23.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $629.91
Mail-in rebates -$55.00
Total $574.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-17 15:12 EDT-0400
  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

I feel if the motherboard offers so much OC potential then why not push the speeds a bit and pair it with a 280? the motherboard seems extreme for a budget gaming rig atleast

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, feel free to skimp on the PSU and CPU, just make sure you get a good mobo! /s

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

yeah definitely don't skimp on a psu whatsoever

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

agreed hah

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

No.... There is no such thing as overclocking a 6-core or a i3!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

You can't find a better quad core for the money with the 860k IMHO, but PSUs aren't a place to skimp either IMHO. Motherboards and PSUs are two areas I will never skimp on in my experiences over the years, as I've had to replace quite a few of them in my older builds. Learn the hard way I guess...

  • 58 months ago
  • 3 points

I know, but from the way you said it it looked like you meant "**** everything else, just get a good mobo and you will be fine" :)

  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

but i see what you were saying lol

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Not sure how you're coming to that conclusion, as it's nothing more than my opinion on the matter. Besides, we all know about opinions, rear orifices, how they stink and all dat sorta jazz...

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

What are you talking about? Yes, you'll be able to overclock the 860k rather well with a motherboard at this price, but there isn't even a seperate aftermarket cooler in this build. Not to mention the fact that at this price you could just get a 50$ h81 (I have a 50$ motherboard that while isn't too overclockedble, works like a charm for 8 years now) and use the 100$ price difference to get yourself a decent I5 which will beat your super-overclocked 860k easily while consuming less power and running cooler. Do not get this build, people. Total waste of your hard-earned money.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Thou doth protest too much... A mere 27$ Coolermaster EVO 212 I use on my build will rectify this issue rather easily.(and keeps my 860K pretty nice and frosty FWIW) If you're too cheap to buy that after the fact, my suggestion is try getting a job doing a paper route, at the least...

FWIW, a comparatively built i5 setup will STILL cost more than this setup. Intel hardware commands the price premium and always has vs. AMD's. Sure you can build one cheaper than this 860k build, but it will be on general lesser quality hardware too,(with a shorter life-span most likely) therefore you ultimately get what you pay for.

Regardless, get whatever you like. Myself, like others I'm sure, will do the same.

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  • 58 months ago
  • 5 points

Agreed. You can probably get one less $, an EVGA PSU, and a cheaper case for like $500.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

nah Xfx is better in general

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

And since gaming is mostly GPU dependent, most of your budget should be in the graphics card.

For this build, if you spent $100 on the mobo you could have upgraded to a $200 vid card. Just sayin... I really like the rest of the build though, kudos!

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

The Vid Card is a perfect match for his CPU (unless DX12 changes all that) - plus the low power consumption of the R9 270 is second really only to the slower, more expensive 750(ti)s. Given the age of this chip, AMD and TSMC are PROs at making the venerable pitcairn and wouldn't be surprised to see it nip the heels of the Tahiti Pro 7950 without even touching the voltage or flashing a custom bios. Built 30-40 systems with the R9 270 (preferring it over the 270x) and most of the reputable vendors bin high ASIC chips - meaning you can overclock (quite significantly) safely at low voltages, and temps though it will not respond quite as well to very high voltages and insane clocks - but who wants that. Got a particularly batch of HIS cards with ASICs in the high 80s where I could undervolt 100mV and get a stable (tested throughly over a month) 1150 core and 1500 (6000) mem..... Bios moded to run the core at 1050V. Couldn't believe it!

It's an OLD chip (out for another spin) but it's a workhorse - honestly, AMD would've done well to use Pitcairn as a jumping off point for their newer chips - like nVidia did with little Maxwell....

  • 57 months ago
  • 2 points

I agree that the 750 ti is slower, but more expensive? I've only been shopping for PC parts for a short while, but at least at the moment, the R9 270 isn't beating the 750 ti in terms of price. I wish it were true, maybe I'm just not looking in the right places...

  • 58 months ago
  • 4 points

agreed

  • 58 months ago
  • 7 points

a88xm gaming is cheaper and has very similar features. The one a88x gigabyte matx board for $70 is also great for barebones overclocking

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

The actual combo price in the link is around $70 cheaper than the listing on this build guide, so the motherboard is justified

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  • 58 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, I'm seeing the combo price $561.99, with the $20 MIR it knocks the price down to $541.99

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Seems like it's one of the places for these combo deal sales.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. They could've instead gotten a $50 AM3+ Motherboard and gotten an fx 6300 which is significantly better. The 860k is equivalent to a core i3 4150, which isn't bad but it suffers on games like gta iv.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, but it is combined with the RAM, and there is probably a significant discount for that.

  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Defiantly no chance of bottlenecking with this budget gaming rig atleast, but yeah, that motherboard is a bit pricey for sure

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  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

won't an 860k be a bit of a bottleneck to an r9 290?

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  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Are you sure not to call you out or anything like that but I'm just genuinely curious, could you link some source showing this to be true? because I've watched vids on youtube with this processor paired with an r9 280/ gtx 960 and seeing the processor just 'necking these gpu's with the 860k hovering around 85%-95% usage with of course GPU usage to be 99%.

Also the steamroller architecture benefits greatly from higher clocked ram so I would make a personal suggestion to get 2133Mhz ram or 2400Mhz ram, especially since the difference in price is $5-$10 at most

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Check out my rig on my page. I have a 860K overclocked to 4.2 and it is a really nice CPU for the money. IMO based on my research and experience I would not match this CPU to a card more powerful than an R9 280X, and that is with an overclock on the CPU.

I also have 2400MHz RAM and it helps performance tremendously.

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build!

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  • 58 months ago
  • 0 points

Well it does make a difference actually just not as big of one if it were an alone apu version it depends you might notice a difference if there's no overclock but if there is an overclock the difference lessens, but even so I would agree 1600 Mhz is fine for this application it's just that when 2133Mhz or 2400Mhz ram is negligibly more expensive I think well why the hell not.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Seriously bad chose to put R9 290 with x4 860k = bottleneck. This build is more balanced. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/Fnp9TW/i5-gtx-970-745-ultra-detail-gaiming-pc-usa-july-2015

Example in Witcher 3

CPU test + R9 290x http://pclab.pl/art63116-48.html CPU test + 970 http://pclab.pl/art63116-47.html

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

That's a 270

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