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Audio driver and headphone qs: EVGA NU Audio Pro 7.1 VS EVGA Nu 712-P1-AN01-KR

Lavaspit11
  • 4 months ago

Mosley Going to be gaming with headsets, but would eventually like to go back to doing some audio production.

Cant find a lot out there that doesn't simply tout the very latest pro 7l1, which i have no problem with.

MY BUILD IS HERE:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqVkwh

Probably goign with Astro Headphones, but open: ASTRO Gaming A50 Wireless

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

I would avoid using an internal DAC over motherboard audio. Either buy an external unit or don't bother. Also, don't use "gaming" headphones for audio production. They tend to emphasize certain frequencies more than others, which isn't good for mixing. You'll want something with a flatter frequency response.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Why?

You don't think an ECVA sound card will play well with an ECGA Mobo?

I dont see the Dark 299 as very sound-centric - its an overclock board. Maybe I made a mistake there. So perhaps trying to overcompensate with a sound card.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

External DAC's and Amps are better than sound cards. And at your price range it makes that statement even more true. We audio fans try to inform this forum of the lack of quality in sound cards and "gaming" audio products (in general). But all we can do is suggest, it is up to you to do your own research. Though when it comes to the world of audio there is an almost endless amount of subjects to learn about. So to keep it simple some good brands to look at are Topping, SMSL, Schiit, JDS Labs, Geshelli Labs, and plenty more if you want to research more. We can help you more if you provide more info about your needs: budget, audio equipment (headphones, speakers, both?).

TLDR: Computers can generate EMI interference and getting your audio components out of that environment is preferable.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Nailed it.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

It sounds like I should research the soundcard that comes with the EVGA Dark. But for now, gettign really great headphone sound is all I need. Eventually Id like to have my PC play out through /control my analogue setup (Proj-ect phono pre, Pro-ject MiADS main amp, and Elac Speakers), and be able to convert vinyl to FLAC.

So for now, a great headphone pre-amp might do it. Or really even running gaming headphones just for gaming until Im ready to step it up and know more.

Just for yuks, what would your ideal phono preamp / DAC / Headphone setup look like with this card? I would love to have a tube headphone amp! Im also a big GRADO fan, but would not game with those, obviously.

PS: What do you think of this DAC: https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Ject-Pre-Box-S2-Digital/dp/B073WD644G/ref=pd_cp_23_1/143-3402265-9286730?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B073WD644G&pd_rd_r=f821b4cb-a24a-4888-b141-bc6645433920&pd_rd_w=jwRrf&pd_rd_wg=dwLi1&pf_rd_p=e44de6bb-cc27-4696-9c22-3a1bddefabbd&pf_rd_r=4S2V645GSFSZBHJ0HXTR&psc=1&refRID=4S2V645GSFSZBHJ0HXTR

Thanks again.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I would highly recommend this combo:

DAC: https://drop.com/buy/smsl-su-8-dac or https://geshelli.com/enog2-pro or https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-grace-design-standard-dac-balanced

Amp: https://drop.com/buy/drop-thx-aaa-789-linear-amplifier

That amp is basically endgame. It can power the most power hungry headphones easily. Those DAC's are great. They each have multiple inputs and two outputs. Connect the XLR balanced output to the 789 amp and connect the single-ended output to anything else you want to. I have that amp and it is great. And I have the Geshelli Labs Enog2 Pro DAC linked above. As far as which DAC to get: the SMSL has the most options + remote, the Geshelli Labs has three output voltages you can select from which is rare for DAC's, and the Drop SDAC Balanced will match the 789 amp for appearance purposes. And since you mentioned a tube amp: https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-alex-cavalli-cth-tube-hybrid-amp

TLDR: Take that $400 and spend it on an Amp and spend $150-200 on a DAC.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Why do you like Massdrop stuff? Just curious.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

What do you think of this DAC:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073WDH4ZB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2763VQ7SN6URD&psc=1

Its in line with the Phono setup I already have. i am obviously asking for others to do my homework where it comes to how well it adapts to PC out.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

What do you think of this DAC:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073WDH4ZB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2763VQ7SN6URD&psc=1

Its in line with the Phono setup I already have. i am obviously asking for others to do my homework where it comes to how well it adapts to PC out.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I have never heard of that brand before. It seems like they are more into products revolving around vinyl which I have never gotten into. There are also not many reviews of their products so it's hard to tell. You can always order on Amazon and return if you don't like it.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Here is a great audio forum with helpful people that are active. This forum (PCPP) isn't the best for deep audio discussions in general, though there are very intelligent people here to help. It's just that you will get more input from others on an audio centric forum.

https://forum.hifiguides.com/

This website is great for determining product performance by way of actual measurements of the equipment. Just remember that audio is extremely subjective and it's not all about numbers.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?reviews/

Knowledge is power and research is king.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

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