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1 month ago

Why would I do this? PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B365 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $93.98 @ Newegg
Memory *Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.98 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link Archer T4E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $24.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $687.88
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 14:41 EST-0500

Versus doing this? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-series-12gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-ash-silver/6221040.p?skuId=6221040

Comments

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Here's the way I look at it.

In the custom build,

  • More RAM

  • SSD

  • Faster CPU which also has more cores

  • Better CPU cooling

  • Brand name parts

  • Considerably easier to replace parts or upgrade**

  • Pleasure of doing it yourself

In the HP,

  • Better integrated graphics (you can change to the 2400G if you want)

** The HP will use a lot of custom and 'generic' parts such as a non-modular PSU, god only knows what kind of motherboard, ram, HDD and so on and so forth. That will make it rather difficult to upgrade later on. Who knows how much it can even be upgraded. The motherboard may only have 1x PCIe slot, it may only have two DIMM slots, it'll be limited in terms of fan headers, usb headers, etc etc. There are plenty of reasons to go with a custom build apart from performance.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor $119.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Newegg
Memory *Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $59.98 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.98 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link Archer T4E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $24.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $572.91
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 15:25 EST-0500
  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

also thing that's worth considering about custom building: the parts are designed to be interchangeable and used in a wide variety of different builds, which means they'll continue to be useful if you ever decide to build a new pc - your wireless card, memory dimms, cpu cooler, psu, and even a disc drive if you wanted one could very easily be moved over and added to as you upgrade, and that can mean saving a whole bunch when you upgrade

on the other hand, with the pre-built pc you linked, the motherboard looks like it's designed specifically for that case, so you can't ever swap the parts and keep the case or vice-versa, there's no antennae for the wireless card so the signal strength probably won't be as great, the psu looks like it's fitted for the case so it's probably never going to be usable in a new build, if it even has the cables to power whatever you would want to do in the future, it doesn't look like there's any options for airflow from any other direction than the left side and the back, which severely restricts your ability to cool the parts inside, the disc drive is never going to work outside that case, and many other things that listing here would take all week

the list that prodigy provided is gonna give you a lot better performance than the pre-built pc, and for only $20 extra (which, that could easily be saved by switching to a uATX motherboard, given the gigabyte b450m ds3h (as an example) is only $73 on amazon right now), and it'll be a lot easier to upgrade, and the parts will continue to be valuable even past the lifespan of the computer; pre-built pcs are definitely easier to assemble, and have a lot more manufacturer support in case things go wrong, but modern pc building isn't really as difficult as it seems and it's absolutely worth it

  • 28 days ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for that well thought out reply. :)

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Honestly that best buy build (as it is) is worse considering how much it does cost and how much performance it does offer.

A budget gaming build that i made for someone else.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor $59.41 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $83.71 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $25.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 570 4 GB RS XXX Video Card $129.99 @ Amazon
Case HEC HX210 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $33.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Prolimatech PRO-RV12LED 72.67 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.32 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $543.37
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 16:24 EST-0500

I could transform it to this...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor $99.12 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $83.71 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 570 4 GB RS XXX Video Card $129.99 @ Amazon
Case Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $34.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $53.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Prolimatech PRO-RV12LED 72.67 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.32 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $607.08
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 16:31 EST-0500

This build is cheaper than your build with the i5-9400F and multiple times faster as gaming concerns.

These are examples for getting the best bang for your buck. ;)

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