2 months ago
Thanks for taking a look! I disnt really want to spend this much but after some research this seems to be around what I need.
Any input appreciated
The B360 motherboard is more of a bottleneck for the CPU's higher boost clock. You should be targeting a Z370/Z390 mobo
For a similar price you can pick up 500GB's for the SSD
Unless you plan on overclocking, you don't need the dual RAD AIO. If it's an aesthetics based selection, thats not a problem.
More importantly, for a streaming and gaming solution, you'll want to go with AMD's Ryzen 2700X. Intel is definitely the go-to solution for best gaming core frequencies but with other multi-core/multi-threaded workloads running simultaneously, AMD presents the lesser performance compromise. The Alternative being, the intel i9-9900K
Also what display resolution are you targeting for gaming? (1080p/1440p/4K)
2700 over 2700x
With his budget possibilities you can't skimp on the 2700's weaker single core clock cycles (10-20% on the weaker side). The 2700X's single-thread core clock rate is significantly superior which does have a profound effect on gaming performance or more-so on in-game scalability and includes a beefier $30-$40 stock cooler.
You realize you can overclock the 2700 too? It's like a 0.05-0.1ghz difference between the 2700X and the 2700 which is pretty much 0%. Also the stock cooler isn't that good, plus the windale 4 which beats the wraith max is $33 on amazon/newegg currently.
A 2700x is actually 0.5Ghz faster then a normal 2700.
At stock. Overclock the 2700 and it's 0.05-0.1ghz close.
I wouldn't recommend overclocking any of the Ryzen 2000-series CPUs which demand too much of a voltage override for a meaningful advantage and the non X-modifiers equally beg for a more premium cooler which will cut you back $50-$80. The 2700 fares poorly with fine-tuned voltage off-sets and AMDs memory controllers are binned or pre-configured to cap out (throttle) past 4.0/4.1Ghz (which is never a positive achievement when having to dial in 1.4v+ and keeping performance degradation in mind).
For raw performance, the on-board PB2.0/XFR auto-enabling is capable of achieving a 4.1-4.3Ghz turbo ceiling with the 2700X whilst maintaining memory latency which is pertinent to Ryzens architectural fabrication and finer stability at peak cycles. With a beefier and adequate cooler included, the 2700X for 50 quid more is a steal!
If an undesired overclocking solution is the way forward - an overclocked 2700X maintains it's superiority with 10-20% excess in core frequency differentiation.
1.38V is the max voltage. Stock idk what it is but it ain't 1.38V for sure. You can get up to 4.1-4.2ghz with the 2700 without hitting 1.38V.
You cant compare the 2700 with the 2700X. Those differences are only acceptable if these are priced super-dooper wide apart whereby the performance compromise is possible.
An OC'd 2700 does come close but 200-300Mhz trailing. Thats useless data when placing a huge strain on the 2700 with over the top temps and voltage. The 2700X is much better equipped at stock and auto configurations.
Why is everyone talking ryzen anyway, drop that overkill cooler and grab the i9-9900K with a cheaper air cooler. No need to overclock this baby ===== ITS THE BOMB!!
*100mhz-150mhz. Which makes 0 difference. Also temps will be similar and as long as voltage is 1.38V or below it doesn't make a difference in lifespan.
1440p with PC games but i will be streaming from a standard ps4.
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Ryzen will be alot better for streaming and have almost indentical performance oc'd to the 8700k. your actually gaining for less money. I changed the storage so it's a bit faster, and I also added in the OS and the Thermal Paste for the same price. The 360mm aio was good for the i7, but for Ryzen it's not as hot, so a 280mm will be fine. I also believe you get more USB ports between the B360 and B450 Board.
By the way I'm not to sure, but I don't think you can oc on a B360, so that would've been a bad idea. (checked, they don't.) so there would be no point in a AIO
For £180 cheaper, this would be a better buy.
thanks! i am quite keenon the i7 8700k, what will i need to change to get this back in?
Ryzen are releasing that new beast cpu this year arent they? may have to go with the AMD build as i can just drop it straight in
There's going to be a 16 core Ryzen 9 CPU released, so yes. Although if you want it, it may be worth waiting for the release and buying a B550/X570 motherboard.
Whats the advantages of waiting for the release of that mother board? The new chip is AM4 right so will drop straight in to a current one regardless?
The main advantages of waiting to buy a B550/X570 motherboard are not needing a BIOS update and the potential for new features only supported by the new boards (like Precision Boost Overdrive for X470). If you don't care about ethier of those, then a B450/X470 board would be best.
Okay so there is a good chance I'm going to go for this build. Will i need thermal paste or does it come pre applied on the cooler?
CM (Cooler Master) says it comes with thermal paste, so you won't need to buy extra.