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First Build! Streaming and future gaming

Carta4

2 months ago

Thanks for taking a look! I disnt really want to spend this much but after some research this seems to be around what I need.

Any input appreciated

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ln3YT

Comments

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

The B360 motherboard is more of a bottleneck for the CPU's higher boost clock. You should be targeting a Z370/Z390 mobo

For a similar price you can pick up 500GB's for the SSD

Unless you plan on overclocking, you don't need the dual RAD AIO. If it's an aesthetics based selection, thats not a problem.

More importantly, for a streaming and gaming solution, you'll want to go with AMD's Ryzen 2700X. Intel is definitely the go-to solution for best gaming core frequencies but with other multi-core/multi-threaded workloads running simultaneously, AMD presents the lesser performance compromise. The Alternative being, the intel i9-9900K

Also what display resolution are you targeting for gaming? (1080p/1440p/4K)

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

2700 over 2700x

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

With his budget possibilities you can't skimp on the 2700's weaker single core clock cycles (10-20% on the weaker side). The 2700X's single-thread core clock rate is significantly superior which does have a profound effect on gaming performance or more-so on in-game scalability and includes a beefier $30-$40 stock cooler.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

You realize you can overclock the 2700 too? It's like a 0.05-0.1ghz difference between the 2700X and the 2700 which is pretty much 0%. Also the stock cooler isn't that good, plus the windale 4 which beats the wraith max is $33 on amazon/newegg currently.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

A 2700x is actually 0.5Ghz faster then a normal 2700.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

At stock. Overclock the 2700 and it's 0.05-0.1ghz close.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I wouldn't recommend overclocking any of the Ryzen 2000-series CPUs which demand too much of a voltage override for a meaningful advantage and the non X-modifiers equally beg for a more premium cooler which will cut you back $50-$80. The 2700 fares poorly with fine-tuned voltage off-sets and AMDs memory controllers are binned or pre-configured to cap out (throttle) past 4.0/4.1Ghz (which is never a positive achievement when having to dial in 1.4v+ and keeping performance degradation in mind).

For raw performance, the on-board PB2.0/XFR auto-enabling is capable of achieving a 4.1-4.3Ghz turbo ceiling with the 2700X whilst maintaining memory latency which is pertinent to Ryzens architectural fabrication and finer stability at peak cycles. With a beefier and adequate cooler included, the 2700X for 50 quid more is a steal!

If an undesired overclocking solution is the way forward - an overclocked 2700X maintains it's superiority with 10-20% excess in core frequency differentiation.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

1.38V is the max voltage. Stock idk what it is but it ain't 1.38V for sure. You can get up to 4.1-4.2ghz with the 2700 without hitting 1.38V.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

You cant compare the 2700 with the 2700X. Those differences are only acceptable if these are priced super-dooper wide apart whereby the performance compromise is possible.

An OC'd 2700 does come close but 200-300Mhz trailing. Thats useless data when placing a huge strain on the 2700 with over the top temps and voltage. The 2700X is much better equipped at stock and auto configurations.

Why is everyone talking ryzen anyway, drop that overkill cooler and grab the i9-9900K with a cheaper air cooler. No need to overclock this baby ===== ITS THE BOMB!!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

*100mhz-150mhz. Which makes 0 difference. Also temps will be similar and as long as voltage is 1.38V or below it doesn't make a difference in lifespan.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

1440p with PC games but i will be streaming from a standard ps4.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £268.79 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £138.23 @ CCL Computers
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste £5.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard £91.98 @ Box Limited
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £106.38 @ Aria PC
Storage Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £65.99 @ Ebuyer
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £53.10 @ CCL Computers
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card £454.98 @ CCL Computers
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case £64.99 @ Box Limited
Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply £74.99 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £83.99 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120mm Fans £64.98 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1474.39
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-24 02:24 GMT+0000

Ryzen will be alot better for streaming and have almost indentical performance oc'd to the 8700k. your actually gaining for less money. I changed the storage so it's a bit faster, and I also added in the OS and the Thermal Paste for the same price. The 360mm aio was good for the i7, but for Ryzen it's not as hot, so a 280mm will be fine. I also believe you get more USB ports between the B360 and B450 Board.

By the way I'm not to sure, but I don't think you can oc on a B360, so that would've been a bad idea. (checked, they don't.) so there would be no point in a AIO

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

For £180 cheaper, this would be a better buy.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor £268.79 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £59.98 @ Box Limited
Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard £84.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £106.38 @ Aria PC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £65.75 @ CCL Computers
Storage Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £63.12 @ CCL Computers
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card £460.00 @ AWD-IT
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case £64.99 @ Box Limited
Power Supply be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply £59.99 @ Aria PC
Case Fan Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120mm Fans £64.98 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1298.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-24 02:41 GMT+0000
  • a Ryzen 7 CPU would be better for streaming
  • cheaper AIO
  • differenct motherboard for AMD CPU
  • better SSD/HDD for slightly more
  • better GPU (higher core clock) for £5 more
  • cheaper PSU
  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks! i am quite keenon the i7 8700k, what will i need to change to get this back in?

EDIT*

Ryzen are releasing that new beast cpu this year arent they? may have to go with the AMD build as i can just drop it straight in

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

There's going to be a 16 core Ryzen 9 CPU released, so yes. Although if you want it, it may be worth waiting for the release and buying a B550/X570 motherboard.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Whats the advantages of waiting for the release of that mother board? The new chip is AM4 right so will drop straight in to a current one regardless?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

The main advantages of waiting to buy a B550/X570 motherboard are not needing a BIOS update and the potential for new features only supported by the new boards (like Precision Boost Overdrive for X470). If you don't care about ethier of those, then a B450/X470 board would be best.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

thanks mate!

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Okay so there is a good chance I'm going to go for this build. Will i need thermal paste or does it come pre applied on the cooler?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

CM (Cooler Master) says it comes with thermal paste, so you won't need to buy extra.

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