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phatso86 1 month ago

my current computer is built for gaming (4 years ago). I haven't really tried for gaming but i am assuming gaming and modeling is roughly the same amount of required resources.

i want to use this processor https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-9900K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B005404P9I/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=intel+i9&qid=1549665141&s=Electronics&sr=1-3

and i suppose this ram (a suggested cheaper ram would be appreciated if i'd bottleneck) https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-4x16GB-3200MHz-Desktop/dp/B01HKF4NK0/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2V3U55EA4EPIL&keywords=ddr5+ram&qid=1549665237&sprefix=ddr5%2Caps%2C178&sr=8-7

i don't know what case to get. motherboard, or graphics card. first time putting together computer (yes, i will pay someone to assemble)

thanks in advance

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Allan_M_Systems 2 points 1 month ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $499.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Thermalright - TRUE Spirit 140 POWER 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $184.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $174.99 @ Newegg Business
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $174.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $159.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital - Red 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $122.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $359.99 @ Newegg
Case Silverstone - Kublai ATX Mid Tower Case $98.89 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $99.99 @ Monoprice
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2011.69
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-08 20:03 EST-0500

Most RTX 2060's, (including the one in this build) include 3 X DP 1.4 ports and 1 X HDMI 2.0 ports. The GPU can drive up to 4 high resolution displays from these ports, (BEYOND 4K).

For MOST CAD applications, an Nvidia gaming GPU works fine, as their openGL support is decent, and many CAD applications (including almost everything from Autodesk) have moved to dirextX viewports, which means, no special GPU requirements as they are running the same API as games.

With that said, there are still a few CAD applications around that have "advanced/proprietary" openGL implementations in their view-port that require driver level support only provided by workstation GPU's. If you are using one of these programs (SolidWorks for example), I would advise waiting for the Quadro RTX 4000 to be available. Should be pretty soon. Otherwise a P4000 or Radeon Pro WX 7100 are worth consideration.

phatso86 submitter 1 point 1 month ago

wow, thanks for all that info. much appreciated.

i only plan on using autocad and revit. i'm surprised how little i know about putting together a computer

LIVE_AMMO 1 point 1 month ago

Whats the budget?

You mentioned case, motherboard and graphics card. I'm assuming you are looking for a full-package recommendation which also includes power supply, storage, CPU cooler, Operating system, etc etc.

To determine an adequately smart motherboard and cooler without spending a bomb, are you planning on overclocking?

phatso86 submitter 1 point 1 month ago

i like the above suggested package. although i would like a cool looking case. maybe you can suggest one? Maybe also a meaningful upgrade on something else?

LIVE_AMMO 1 point 1 month ago

the above build is more than adequate for the task at hand but I'm just wandering where you are with your gaming ambitions? It would help to know how you are measuring up with the following:

  1. Budget?

  2. Gaming requirements. If 4K gaming is in the pipelines with expectations to reach a more quality-driven visual gaming experience, a more higher-end GPU becomes necessary! The essential requirement here is to maintain 60fps in the least which secures smoother frame output (or more if the display scales with higher refresh rates). The RTX 2060 is a better fit for 1080p gaming, or decent enough to handle 1440p at 60fps in most games and equally well in more demanding titles with down-tuned in-game configurations. This one is entirely dependent on your budget or if the budget lacks flex, there is possibility in trimming down the build for now (eg. RAM, storage, etc). In other words, upgrading these parts at a later time depending on requirement. For 4K gaming, the "RTX 2080" would have you served up nicely with plenty of performance for the long run. No doubt, the best gaming card currently available for 4K gaming is the "RTX 2080 TI" but the measure in increased performance per cost is somewhat ridiculously overpriced. Not everyone's cup-of-tea. A decent RTX 2080 is possible for around $750 whereas the TI variant asks for a whopping $1200 (a whopping day-light robbery if you ask me)

  3. The CASE is always a tough one considering personal preference takes precedence. I'm assuming "cool" is leaning more towards a tampered glass side window, something a little more flamboyant opposed to the conservative "plain" and as current builds keep outshining the dull - maybe the RGB/LED works? Here's a list of a few to choose from. Let us know which best represents the eye-candy. The selections below factor in "decent airflow", a comfortable build experience, simplified cable management, clean aesthetics, a PSU shroud to conceal the cable-clutter and plenty of fan mounts if they fit the requirement for added push/pull configs.

(in no particular order)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mkbwrH/nzxt-h700-white-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h700b-w1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hwkj4D/lian-li-pc-o11dx-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11dx

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6Crxr/fractal-design-meshify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tg

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2mQRsY/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-es515ptg_bk

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G766Mp/cooler-master-mastercase-h500-atx-mid-tower-case-mcm-h500-ignn-s00

...list goes on...but it would help if you can pick one to get a taste of the taste

phatso86 submitter 1 point 1 month ago

would a liquid cooling system work for the above setup?

LIVE_AMMO 1 point 1 month ago

Not necessary but if preferred, yes! At stock/factory-initiated turbo clock speeds, a mid-ranged air cooler for $50 is more than sufficient. At this point liquid cooling AIOs are more of an aesthetics incentive (worth it if it adds the personalised visual appeal one is willing to pay a little more for).

If overclocking is of interest, there are some tangible advantages opting for a 360mm rad AIO (something like the H150i pro from Corsair).

phatso86 submitter 1 point 29 days ago
ImperiousBattlestar 1 point 29 days ago

You shouldn't have any issues with that setup.

Allan_M_Systems 1 point 27 days ago

I'd be very curious to hear your rationale for those parts as it relates to drafting and modeling.

Motherboards that reach way out beyond the platform limitations and push everything to the absolute max are almost always nothing but trouble, and only useful for extreme overclocking-as-a-hobby endeavors.

We have P4000's at work for our CAD guys on 4K monitors, I've watched resource monitors while they work. This is about a GTX 1060 equivalent in terms of GPU power and they rarely go over 20% utilization on a 4K monitor in autodesk applications. GTX 2080 will be bored to tears.

phatso86 submitter 1 point 24 days ago

well, I rather my computer run tasks with ease than run full all the time

anyways, my fiancé is a WOW girl, so i'd like to see her play with a very good system. So if it runs full speed a few times a month, it was worth it.

jtrier1 1 point 29 days ago

Not sure if you needed the monitors, peripherals, or OS so I added them anyway. If you don't need them, the build will be about $1800 less than shown. If you like what you see, I can put it together for you at a reasonable price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $525.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Thermaltake - Water 3.0 Riing RGB 360 40.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $139.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - MEG Z390 GODLIKE EATX LGA1151 Motherboard $563.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $249.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $249.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Dell
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $297.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card $799.99 @ Walmart
Case Thermaltake - View 71 TG RGB ATX Full Tower Case $174.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $114.49 @ My Choice Software
Monitor Acer - XB281HK bmiprz 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $527.82 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - XB281HK bmiprz 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $527.82 @ Amazon
Monitor Acer - XB281HK bmiprz 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $527.82 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $46.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse $41.50 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $5058.25
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-21 23:37 EST-0500
phatso86 submitter 1 point 15 days ago

hello would I be able to use this power supply for my setup?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0793FDTSD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

if so, what is the largest size I can/should use?