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END426 8 months ago

Hello guys, Im in need of some help on putting together a gaming/streaming pc for my son. My budget will be $900-$1100 max but will definitely be looking too upgrade it later in the year. He will be streaming/gaming on this pc mostly pc games . He has most of the peripherals like monitor,mouse and keyboard.

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Unhandybirch656 2 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor $326.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $99.97 @ Jet
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $93.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.33 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card $199.99 @ Jet
Case Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Jet
Power Supply SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $62.89 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $92.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1101.02
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-20 19:03 EDT-0400

The RYZEN processor will be much better than an i7 for streaming. Since it has 8 cores compared to 4, streaming will have no performance affect while gaming.

caps_l0ck 2 points 8 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor $326.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4 66.7 CFM CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $109.99 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage MyDigitalSSD Super Boot Drive 32GB M.2-2242 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.33 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card $189.98 @ Newegg
Case Deepcool DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ B&H
Power Supply SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $66.89 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $106.89 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1114.92
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $1094.92
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-20 20:02 EDT-0400
Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

Here is my take on this and this is not knowing the type of resolution/refresh rate we are looking at.

I would go with an hyper threaded CPU which helps reduce loss of performance in games when multitasking (internet tabs, streaming...).

The games you mentionned dont really demand OCing a CPU to be played effectively and a locked CPU would be my choice. As such, I would go with the i7-7700 matched with a good B250 Gaming K4 from Asrock. It is a really good motherboard to serve as a base for a PC anbd features the latest audio codec (1220) at a reasonable price, sitting at the price point we had with the previousgenerations of B150 motherboards like the Fatality Performanceand the Gaming 3 from Asrock & Gigabyte respectively.

Simply streaming doesnt mandate a lot of space so you can drastically reduce boot and load times by putting everything on a single SSD.

I would round up the build with a really good RX 480, a good case for beginning builders and a stable PSU to power it all.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $299.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty B250 Gaming K4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $102.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $99.97 @ Jet
Storage PNY CS1311 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $149.99 @ Jet
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card $199.99 @ Jet
Case Deepcool DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $55.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $92.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1056.79
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-20 20:49 EDT-0400
kazini 1 point 8 months ago

Here's My Ten Cents, i chose the i7 because over the new ryzen Cpu's because I've seen that there are still some issues with the software and Bios for the new ryzen cpu's and i don't feel comfortable recommending something like ryzen at this point because there are alot of quirks that may make building the pc a little more frustrating. i went with the i7 because the quad core with hyper threading kills streaming games without issue and will perform on par with the ryzen cpu recommended by my cohorts here. i threw in the gtx 1060 because its performance is once again on par with the gpu they recommended but you get the benefit of the 6GB of video ram and as i myself have pushed the 4gb on my gtx 970 whilst playing some newer games this will help that a bit and is an easy upgrade down the road.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $299.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $114.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $99.97 @ Jet
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card $269.49 @ OutletPC
Case NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $88.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $88.58 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1153.39
Mail-in rebates -$35.00
Total $1118.39
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-20 19:52 EDT-0400

i didn't include an ssd because i was already over budget with some of my other recommendations but if you can splurge the extra get a small m.2 ssd or even a regular SSD to put windows on since it will improve the boot speed of your sons pc tremendously.

Last but not least i chose a z-series board mostly because its a good board at a good price, since you wont be overclocking i know you don't need it but its a great board that's currently just over 100 dollars, if looking to save money you could opt for something cheaper like a b-series or h series motherboard to put it under the 1100 or maybe squeeze in an ssd. overall i feel like this will give you similar performance to the other lists on the post and also will most likely not have any issues getting up and running like the ryzen cpus may just from what i've read and seen.

kazini 1 point 8 months ago

here's the same list with the b250 board i would recommend

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor $299.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B250M GAMING PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $84.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $99.97 @ Jet
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card $269.49 @ OutletPC
Case NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $88.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $88.58 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1123.49
Mail-in rebates -$35.00
Total $1088.49
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-20 20:00 EDT-0400

Also because that board is smaller you could go for a smaller case with this build if thats something that would be helpful to you.

kazini 1 point 8 months ago

should also probably specify that this is what i would do if you want to build it now, if you plan to wait a little while then Ryzen might be more cost effective after they iron out some kinks. if you want material on why i'm hesitant about Ryzen go check out JayzTwoCents on Youtube, he did a little bit of talk about it in his recent Ryzen Build.

END426 submitter 1 point 8 months ago

Thank you guys! one question though..whats the difference as far as perfomance between the Ryzen and i7? will the gpu you guys have posted have any issues on games like CSGO,H1Z1 and overwatch since thats what he mostly plays? im sorry for the noobish questions

Chillsabre 2 Builds 3 points 8 months ago

The fact that Ryzen falls behind in games is true but its only really apparent at 1080p with a high refresh rate monitor. It becomes much less substantial at 1440p or at 1080p 60fps for example since the CPU is more than enough for 1080p 60fps and at higher resolution, the GPU is bound by the game so the CPU has much less of an effect.

I was reading all these builds and the only real factor splitting between Ryzen and an i7 is what type of resolution and refresh rate his monitor running at?

END426 submitter 1 point 8 months ago

his monitor is an Asus VS247 res is 1920x1080 and refresh rate is 60hz. We have been looking at a 144hz but that upgrade will be in the future.

RyanOCallaghan01 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

Short answer, i7 for pure gaming and Ryzen for a streaming/ productivity PC

kazini 0 points 8 months ago

okay, id be more than happy to throw something together around that, most likely an i7 because of the streaming/gaming (im assuming he pplans to play games and stream them and the i7 will help with this.) and a lower end gpu (im assuming the monitor is 1080p at most so he won't need a super powerful gpu and he plans on upgrading later anyway). :3

END426 submitter 1 point 8 months ago

correct

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kazini 0 points 8 months ago

well you'll find many more examples of this but here's a link to some comparisons of the 7700 vs the R7 1700 (same/similar price point. and this shows that despite the extra threads the 7700 still comes out on top with higher clock speeds and also testing has shown better multicore utilization in games/applications that support it. this coupled with the fact that there've been some quirkiness with the bios for the new ryzen cpus on some boards leads me to recommend the i7 over the ryzen for strictly gaming/streaming.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3887vs3917

RyanOCallaghan01 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

I am fully aware of this, however, more CPU intensive games will also require extra CPU resources to stream. CS: GO and OW should stream just fine on the 7700, yeah, but likely not future CPU intensive games. When I buy PC parts, I will always consider future proofing, and I think having the extra brute force multi threaded performance of a Ryzen 7 will be good for this. In terms of "quirkiness" with the infant AM4 platform though, you do have a point. I've heard people having serious bugs when installing older versions of Windows 10 on these platforms, as well as RAM compatibility issues...( many kits won't go above 2133 MHz) and general BIOS instability.... although Gigabyte boards seem to work fine in terms of basic system stability.

kazini 1 point 8 months ago

Yeah some of the Asus and msi boards have been bricking when you try to OC at all for some reason.

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