Description

With apple apparently forgetting they ever made macs ("current" mac mini is from 2014 as I write this in 2017!) I decided to finally step into the world of DIY PCs in replacing my well aged 2009 mac mini. This was built to be a general use home PC that can also run newer games at 1080p 60fps.

So far, two days into using this PC, everything is working great! My old steam games run at max setting just fine and the Ryzen 5 1400 is making everything in Windows 10 feel incredibly fast and responsive. Definitely satisfied with my work.

Being my first build, I did run into some problems. The first of which happened during assembly when I plugged all the case headers into the wrong pins on the motherboard... This was just me failing to read the motherboard manual closely and mixing up the COM port header with the system panel header. In my defense, they have the same number of pins so everything seemed to plug in correctly . This mistake of course meant that after getting everything plugged in and ready for a first boot, the power button did absolutely nothing. This was utterly terrifying and I assumed I must've broken the motherboard or something. After triple checking every power connection I finally decided to trouble shoot the front headers and noticed my blunder. Corrected all the connections and it booted! <insert young Anakin Skywalker "it's working, it's working!" here>

So my system boots, Windows 10 installs, and I notice that only one of my RAM sticks is being recognized, and at the wrong speed. These were both minor problems though. I just reinserted the offending RAM stick and manually set their speed and voltage in the motherboard BIOS.

Next on the list was getting my Ryzen overclocked a bit. I initially got it running at 3.6 GHz at stock voltage. However, after updating my motherboard's BIOS to allow me to change core voltage, I was able to safely squeeze another 200 MHz out of my chip, bringing it up to 3.8 GHz at 1.36875 V.

CPU Benchmarks:

 Geek Bench 4: Single core- 4215 Multi core- 14643

 Cinebench CPU: 819

GPU Benchmark(s) (may add more, just one for now):

 Heaven benchmark on ultra:

      Average FPS- 64.4

      Score- 1621

      Lowest FPS- 30.7

      Highest FPS- 137.9

Well that about wraps up my thoughts on this build. A HUGE shout out to this site for making it so easy to plan out a build that even this apple guy was able to handle it, you guys do great work. If anyone has questions about this build or specific benchmarks they'd like to see, just let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Part Reviews

CPU

Fast, cheap, and hopefully upgradable if AMD sticks with the AM4 socket for a few years. My chip is running at 3.8 GHz @ 1.36875 V with stock cooling and only reaches 56 degrees while running AIDA64's stress test. Hovers between 30-40 degrees under normal loads. Runs the games I've thrown at it like a champ and makes Windows 10 an incredibly fast and responsive experience. Well done AMD!

Motherboard

I've had no major issues with this board yet. Was able to get my RAM running at its stated speed, 2666, with a voltage and clock adjustment.

Some things to note before you buy/build:

Ryzen's stealth cooler used with the 1400 bumps right up against the RAM. Check my build photos for an example. Be sure to position the jutting out AMD logo on the fan opposite the RAM slots.

Put your graphics card in last, it covers up much of the board.

This board only has support for two case fans, one 3 pin and one 4 pin. My case came with two 3-pin fans so I just bought a splitter to power them both off the one connection. If you plug a 3 pin fan into a 4 pin connector, the fan will only run full speed.

If you want to change CPU voltage for your overclock, you may have to update the BIOS. The version mine came with didn't allow this.

All that said, if you're on a tight budget, this is still a quality board.

Memory

Gets the job done. Was initially read as 2133 but was changed without fuss in the BIOS. A PassMark memory benchmark showed latency to be a weak point on these sticks, but I don't know how much that really hurts performance, everything seems to be running nice and quick.

Storage

Fast and reliable. I've been using the same SSD for over 5 years now in two separate computers and it's never given me any trouble.

Video Card

At the time of writing this review, RX 570 cards have basically vanished online due to their popularity among bit miners. Luckily, no one in my hometown seems to know what cryptocurrencies are and I was able to snag this guy new from a best buy. The card itself is running great, handles all the games I throw at it. Just know that it'll easily run into the 80s Celsius if you really push it, but backing off a few settings will bring right down into the high 60s low 70s. Fans get a bit loud approaching the high 70s.

Heaven Benchmark on ultra preset (with a Ryzen 5 1400):

Average FPS: 64.4

Score: 1621

Lowest FPS: 30.7

Highest FPS: 137.9

Case

Beautiful minimalist design, easy to build in, wonderful cable management. Keeps my system running cool and quiet.

Power Supply

Powers my system without any problems. Runs quiet with eco mode on. Cables are a bit thick, wasn't an issue with my setup, but could be a problem for tight fitting case designs.

Comments

  • 30 months ago
  • 15 points

Gaben bless thee. Welcome to PC master race!!!!!!!!!

  • 30 months ago
  • 7 points

Recovering Apple fanboy

lmao dude, we've been in the same situation.

  • 30 months ago
  • 5 points

This is much better than an Apple, or even an Intel PC for that matter. Really clean build and great part selection. +1

  • 30 months ago
  • 4 points

Heya ModestPhish, I have the same exact motherboard, and there is an option to change the core voltage, but it won't show up until you flash the BIOS to the most recent version - http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/#BIOS

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

Hey thanks! I'll do just that and update with my results.

  • 30 months ago
  • 4 points

Ahhh my bad, I linked the wrong ASRock mobo, the one above is the Pro4!

This should be the BIOS for the non-Pro4 model: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350M/index.asp#BIOS

Best of luck, if you haven't flashed a BIOS before make sure you read up on the process a bit and follow the directions, it isn't without a little risk.

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

Awesome profile pic. One of my favorite albums.

  • 29 months ago
  • 2 points

Forbin approves.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Its ok to be an apple fanboy. I love them! But I still love desktops too!

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Only downside to this is the low wattage psu as the 570 can be power hungry, but overall you have the ideal build for gamers/ editors with budget in mind. +1

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

The RX570 to me is quite pricey, $200 was the price tag of a RX480. Let's see what Vega offers

  • 30 months ago
  • 3 points

Shouldn't Vega be even more expensive?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Does mean that Vega won't release ~200 cards

  • 30 months ago
  • 2 points

I think Vega is going to be their higher end GPU's. Currently AMD has nothing to compete against the GTX 1070 and the GTX 1080, unless you want to go back a generation. Polaris was their budget lineup.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

maybe there will be a $200 dollar GPU which plays 1440p at very high detail and 60fps constantly on triple-A titles. Volta will be much better than Pascal, maybe Vega could offer much higher performance as Vega with the same price as the Polaris line, who knows?

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not so sure I'd get that optimistic, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

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  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Tell me, how's the mobo holding up? I'm looking to build a pc like this except with a 1060 3gb and a versa h15 case. I'm just a little apprehensive because there aren't many reviews about this mobo. Thanks

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

It's holding up great! While researching mobos for this build, ASRock came up as as reliable manufacturer when on a tight budget and his board has confirmed that for me. Good build quality (though I can't really compare it to anything, it seems securely put together) and I've yet to have it crash on me once settling on a stable overclock.

However, it does have this one annoying quirk where if an overclock causes it to fail to boot, it won't automatically reset to a previous state. This means you'll have to manually reset the board, and the pins you'll have to short to do this are located right under the graphics card slot. I had one lousy weekend of constantly pulling out my graphics card and resetting the damn thing to find the fastest stable OC for my chip. But again, nothing bad aside from that.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

That's nice to know! I don't have anything to worry about since I'm not over cocking. Thanks for the quick reply!

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

lol love the apple cables

  • 28 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice cable management AMD fanboy here (or best bank for you buck fanboy) approves WELCOME to the real world check out mine

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/9JnH99

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice

  • 27 months ago
  • 1 point

Was the 450W PSU really sufficient for overclocking?

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry for the really late reply, but yes, 450W has been enough to feed my system with an overclocked CPU

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

awesome thx for messaging me

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you orientate the cooler to have the AMD logo facing North?

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Unfortunately you can't on this mobo (not sure if you can on others)

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

THANKS!

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice, but why the Apple keyboard?

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey, I'm a brand new builder and I've got the same Mobo and Case, so I'm wondering if you could tell me more about the cable splitter you got for the twin fans. I'm planning on adding a third fan for a rear exhaust, so I'm going to need it.

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi!

So first you need to know which fan connector you want to split. In my case, I've got two 3-pin fans so I needed a 3-pin splitter. Specifically, I got this one: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZN5MP3160

Also, understand that the two fans attached by the splitter will always run at the same speed; the motherboard doesn't "see" both fans and thus can't control them independently.

Lastly, keep the total amperage of your two fans on the splitter under 1 amp. You should be able to find amp ratings on case fans in milliamps, just add these up.

If you have any other questions or are confused by anything I said feel free to let me know

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

i need to pick me up one of those 570's, theres something about the XFX cards that just pull me in

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

I have 2 of these: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9NPzK8/gskill-memory-f42800c15s8gvrb on the same mobo as you and I want to set them to 2666 since I dont think 2800 is supported. How much voltage did you put on your ram chips? Im going to mimic it.

  • 22 months ago
  • 1 point

Does it have LED lights?

  • 21 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice PC man also I don't think it's too good to put it on carpet

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey Modish,

I'm a converted Apple fanboi that is preparing to build my first PC. Nice setup that is similar to what I was thinking about building. How has it been running for you!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Welcome... You shall be baptized in thee holy water of infinite FPS...

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Never put a motherboard on carpet for future reference static electricity can kill the mother board

  • 30 months ago
  • 0 points

pls better-looking setup in the future!

  • 30 months ago
  • 0 points

can the motherboard operate 24/7 without crashes? nice build mate

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

Yup, I've had no crashes after settling on a stable overclock.

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