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Budget Beast

by Josh2003

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60 Comments

Details

Date Published

June 27, 2016

Date Built

April 30, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

3.7GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

45.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

60.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

650MHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

1.07GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

56.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

80.0° C

Description

This is my first ever computer build. I use it mainly to surf the web and play basic games like Minecraft and RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 Platinum, mainly so that I have . It has handled everything I've thrown at it remarkably! I was able to operate a 40-piston lag machine in Minecraft (singleplayer, of course) with 20 fps minimum. Sure, I may not be using very intense programs, but it works great for my purposes. I can run Minecraft with over 100 MODS with NO lag. I tested this build on Cinebench, and it managed to beat the Intel Core i5 3317U by 99 points in the CPU test! I even beat Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 in the OpenGL Reference Match (by only 0.21 points). This is the fastest computer I've ever had, so my first build turned out WAY better than I expected.

P.S. AMD is my new favorite brand! ;) P.S.S. I'm not sure EXACTLY when I built this, but it was on a Sunday some time near the date I put in.

Part Reviews

CPU

This processor, for the price, is an absolute STEAL. I tested it on Cinebench and it kicked the Intel i5 3317U's butt, by 1 point in single-core and 99 points with all cores. The results show, too. My build involving this CPU always feels faster than our family-shared i5 tower.

Motherboard

I'd rate the motherboard itself 5 stars, but the drivers that come with it tend to lock up my build on the Windows 8 boot screen. MSI Command Center is a handy tool, though, which earns the drivers a 3-star rating, so it averages out to be 4 stars.

Storage

This hard drive does what I need it to quickly. What else can I say?

Video Card

If I could rate this GPU 6 stars, I would. I picked it up as an emergency GPU because I'd forgotten that the CPU I was using didn't have integrated graphics. I expected poor performance from this $40 GPU, especially with the constant "booing" of low end GPUs from the computer enthusiast community. However, I get FPS pegged at 60 on Minecraft with all high settings. Not all low-end GPUs are the same!

Case

This case worked well, but could be better in a million different ways. The integrated PSU, which is apparently usually deemed the worst part, actually was the best. It handled all my hardware just fine. However, the case itself had absolutely NO cable management and the all-metal drive bays (which completely lack screwless mounting hardware) scratched up the sides of my hard drive and disk drive. The most disappointing part was that the power and hard drive lights were standard LEDs whose wires got in the way of the front fan area, so the only thing that would fit was the super tiny fan that came with the case (which, of course, was originally installed in the back of the case). I'm lucky I only needed to keep one hard drive cool! So bad, in fact, was the aforementioned lack of cable management that there weren't even any holes to tie-wrap the cords to, so I had to use MASKING TAPE. However, on the bright side, this case looked good on the outside and worked well after I managed to cram in all the guts.

Optical Drive

This disk drive made it a breeze to install 5 or more software disks on the first day of completion. It works fast, works well, and looks good in the case.

Operating System

Windows 8 is my favorite OS. I installed a program to make sure it didn't update to Windows 10, and it has served me well ever since.

Wireless Network Adapter

This WiFi card is great as far as network speed goes, but the range could be better.

Case Fan

This fan has everything a computer enthusiast wants: It looks good, it works well, and it's almost completely silent.

Comments Sorted by:

FACUNDO 13 Builds 5 points 15 months ago

I expected poor performance from this $40 GPU, especially with the constant "booing" of low end GPUs from the computer enthusiast community. However, I get FPS pegged at 60 on Minecraft with all high settings. Not all low-end GPUs are the same!

That's because MC is a CPU intensive game. (and you have a very good processor)

The integrated PSU, which is apparently usually deemed the worst part, actually was the best.

OMG, what are you saying?
+1
War_Driven 6 points 15 months ago

thought your "+1" was dead pixels >_>

FACUNDO 13 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

LOL

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I'm saying that I've heard that integrated PSUs are horrible. I watch LinusTechTips a lot, and that's what Linus said, along with lots of other people in lots of other videos.

berlinger99 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Included Not integrated haha

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Oh, well... XD

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minionslayer23 2 points 15 months ago

That power supply looks like a ticking time bomb, if i were you i would replace that with something like this asap: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/HvTmP6/evga-power-supply-100w10430kr . Also i would recommend picking up an ssd such as this: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rwcMnQ/ocz-internal-hard-drive-trn15025sat3240g , it will not effect gaming performance much except for load times, but your boot times and overall snappiness of the system will be miles better. But other than that this is an amazing budget build and it does what it is intended to beautifully.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for the tips. I'll probably fix the PSU soon, but I do have a question about the SSD: Is it worth it to get one if my system boots up in 15 seconds?

towerdivermp 1 point 15 months ago

Definitely. The system is overall more snappy and responsive with an SSD and all loading times for games put on the SSD will improve a bunch.

minionslayer23 1 point 15 months ago

My system has an ssd (a cheap adata one, not a fancy one)and it boots so fast that i don't even see the windows logo.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Wow. In my family, we usually don't have extremely fast computers, so that sounds almost magical!

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Not worth it if pc starts 15 sec save your money your pc is five stars

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

If I don't get around to replacing it soon, do you think the PSU will last another month? I also plan on making a completely new system build in about 3 months.

minionslayer23 1 point 15 months ago

If you can't afford a new one right this minute you are probably fine, but you should replace it the second you have the money.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Okay. Thanks for the tips!

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Replace that PSU ASAP, its crap to put it gently and will cause damage to your PC via its terrible ripple suppression which is close to being 2 times out of spec and it can't even do 300 watts and has terrible build quaility. It belongs in a recycling bin, not in your PC.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

It's worked fine for months now, though, and I can't afford a replacement at the moment.

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

It has a 1 year warranty on it, its not likely to last much longer and shows that Logsyis doesn't even have much faith in it. Also it can only do ~190 watts on the 12V rail, yuck. on the 3.3V the ripple is 4 times out of spec, that is scary.

I strongly recommend against trusting this PSU to do much of anything beyond doorstop duty

Ripple control is horrid.

The build quality is not so hot, BH capacitors aren’t known for being top notch. They’re not exactly known to be horrid either, mostly they’re simply not known. I can’t say I trust them or the K-Eagle primary caps. The secondary rectifiers are all either under-rated or just barely rated for spec, not good.

The power cable flat out scares me, I wouldn’t use it on a nightlight, let alone a PSU.

Major solder ball issues.

Secondary rectifiers woefully undersized.

you’d be mighty unhappy if your attempt to save <$30 cost you hundreds of dollars in ripple-fried equipment.

http://www.overclockers.com/logisys-ps480x2-review/

If I was you I honestly wouldn't use the PC until you replace the PSU, its that bad.

minionslayer23 1 point 15 months ago

"The Logisys PS6000A12 has “garbage” written all over it."

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

And it is hideous.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

That's not the PSU that's in my case, though. Mine's silver all around with no cable sleeves or GPU power connectors.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I'm using it to type this comment - and all the others. XD

Mr_Majestic 1 point 15 months ago

im assuming that the card is just there until you can afford a perhaps gtx 960?

Hybernate27 1 Build 2 points 15 months ago

Not everyone needs a 960. He could just outright buy a 750 ti later on or go for a RX 460 soon.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

The GPU is here to stay; it works fine for my purposes. I'm not really stingy on graphics, and I get 60 fps on max settings for Minecraft, and that's about the only game I ever play, anyway.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

My monitor is as old as dirt, so it wouldn't really make a difference.

tiny_voices 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I'd make sure to replace that PSU if you upgrade the GPU. It is very low quality and not really safe. Honestly you should just replace it ASAP.

526christian 1 point 15 months ago

I don't think I've seen you recommend something that isn't Sea Sonic in some time.

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

And is it a bad PSU?

Active PFC and super cheap.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

And it's practically praised by LinusTechTips.

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I am going to stop recommending that one then.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

XD

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I know I'm off topic here, but can I just say - I like the Raspberry Pi too! :) I have a B+ right now, plan to go for Pi 3 B soon.

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I have a 2B, 3B, and Zero.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Nice! :)

gugu96 18 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I was really surprised by your impression of the GPU. In fact I thought the Radeon 230 was the lowest, didn't know they had the 220. If you're satisfied with the GPU don't change it.

the psu we all agree on this, will need to replace it. It's the kind of crap that will send so much ripple into your computer that it will wear down the motherboard and other parts. It's sneaky cause you don't notice it. One day your computer seems fine, the other day it won't boot and it's dead. And you never suspect the psu cause the psu still works.

or the other case is it will explode (literaly) and probably also kill mobo + other parts at the same time. A good psu will not slowly damage your components and will probably just die itself without killing all other parts.

so when you get the chance and the money, new psu it will be!

congrats on your first build and keep up the work!!

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Thanks, this is, I believe, the most HELPFUL comment I've gotten yet! XD

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

that GPU r5 220 is good GPU and I use a Nvidia 720 in my win xp pc

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Windows, XP...

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Yes but this pc doesn't go online any more I just play games and that are on DVD/CD disks and make audio CDs too. This pc was bought in 2013 and was bought refurbished and I had to clone HHD to new because the 14 HHD was going bad and it has gt 720 which I got for free . This pc can handle 8gb of ram and has the and athlon 64 CPU at 1.99ghz HP Compaq business hard pc

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I know. I just had to do that.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I just got a GT 710 for my new FX-8350 build, and it's like three times better than my old R5 220. Probably a HUGE bottleneck noting the CPU, but I'm planning on getting a replacement soon... maybe a 1050 Ti?

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I play rollercoaster tycoon 3 on my xp gaming pc form 2004 on a 1999 dell pc monitor and even play sonic and all stars racing on too

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

What a coincidence - I play RCT3 Platinum on this machine with NO lag!

ronan.eastburn.00 1 point 15 months ago

nice minecraft scereenshort. try to make a cobblestone pecker/

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 14 months ago

A what?

Cmdr__Tim 1 point 6 months ago

Is the PSU still going fine, should I buy the PSU/Case combo?

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

It's still going after about 1.3 years. However, the metal in the case is kind of prickly, the drive rack is all metal with no quick-mounts, causing it to scratch the hard drive casing, the case only comes with a single 80mm fan, and there's hardly any clearance for a fan at the front panel because the drive rack is right behind it and the cables from the front-panel IO stick straight out, leaving just enough room to move the included fan to the front panel (basically, you can't fit any fan bigger than 80mm there). Cable management is horrendous at best (there are no tie-downs so I had to use masking tape). Bottom line: I suggest buying a standalone case (no psu) that isn't way too cheap (the $40 Deepcool Tesseract SW I use now is fine) and a power supply from a reputable brand. Stay away from PSUs with an 80mm exhaust fan at the back (they're noisy) and go for one with a 120mm top-mounted fan. I recommend the EVGA 400B.

Cmdr__Tim 1 point 3 months ago

I was looking at this reply, wondering who it was from, and I come to this page to find out I made this comment 3 months ago :P At least the PSU is still going strong, normally those things end up going out after a few months :P I ended up buying the EVGA 500W Bronze, and a pretty decent white ATX case to go along with it :)

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526christian 2 points 15 months ago

No.

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Vinyl_Scratch_ 4 points 15 months ago

This or a 500B. Just get that landmine out of there xD

RubberDuckyNinja 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Lol XD

I think you should get a 500b ^

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Okay, I just didn't know if Logisys is a dependable brand.

liammc 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Logisys PSU I wouldn't trust because it could catch on fire or it could take out the all the components in your pc. I would recommend the corsair CX 430watt PSU. Very nice pc build.

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CrumpetSam 1 point 15 months ago

u overpayed for a 450 watt psu then

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Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

Even so, doesn't the FX series use AM3+ sockets instead of FM2+? That would mean I'd have to replace the whole mobo.

Josh2003 submitter 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I plan on constructing another build soon using fx 6200, so it's not really worth it for me, but thanks for the tip.