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Overall, I love this case except I had one big problem and some challenges to build this compact case.

One big problem I had is that the riser cable that comes with the case HAVE to be replaced! This cable does not have enough bandwidth to support PCIe Gen 3, so it will cause FPS to drop significantly, and in my case, the screen will go all black, system will freeze when under load, which made gaming or anything impossible. It took me two weeks of troubleshooting, and finally found it is because of the riser cable. I bought this new riser cable which is design to fit this case (link in the part list) and solved the problem immediately.

Here is the link to the riser cable: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gen3-0-PCI-E-16x-To-16x-Riser-Extender-PCIe-Cable-For-PHANTEKS-ENTHOO-Evolv-Shift/32845509787.html

The two challenges of this build are thermal and cable management.

Thermal: this case has only three fan mount location and one open area at the top, which already indicates it won't have great airflow. My recommendation is

  1. USING quality fans like Noctua, or if you don't like the brown color, you can’t go with be quiet silent wing 3 high-performance series or corsair’s fans. I am using be quiet because it is really quiet, and performance is excellent too. Corsair offers more airflow and pressure than be quiet's fans, but it is significantly louder.

  2. Prefer either Water cool graphics card or blower style card. Graphics cards are the hottest part of the whole system. So, a water-cooled card like EVGA hybrid series will work great (be careful that only the reference design card will fit). Another option is to choose a blower style card. Since they are just blowing all the hot air out, they won't generate as much as heat inside of the case, which improves thermal inside of your case.

Cable Management: this will take you a lot of time and tries. My suggestion is

  1. Removed all unnecessary cable. For example, I don't use the back-panel USB 3.0 hub; I just took it out of the case.

  2. Buying individually sleeved cables. These cables will be soft usually than your typical cable that comes with the PSU, so you will have an easier time bending them.

Comments

  • 17 months ago
  • 4 points

awesome build, +1 for hackintosh!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks man

  • 17 months ago
  • 3 points

That is so clean. Are you a Doctor or something lol. Jk. This is the 'most' perfect, setup I have ever seen.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

haha, i wish I was a doctor too! thanks

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

A very clean looking build and desk setup, really love it. Easy +1

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow! Clean build and clean set up! I could see this as a feature maybe?!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

hahah thanks! maybe!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

+1 for desktop setup!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks man!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

That is a beautiful PC

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

....You game in the kitchen though? Seems like an odd place. Aside from that, I love the case, although it seems like a whole lotta work to get it working right.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha, you got me, and it is in the kitchen, kind of. I live in a studio apartment which is just one room, and the kitchen top is very long and long enough that you wont think of sitting in the kitchen anymore haha. I guess it won't look as odd seeing the whole apartment as a whole. :P And yes, it is very hard to get it working :( especially the riser cable problem

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

How did you get mac OS on this beast?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

there is a “hackintosh” community with full of talented people providing many step by step guide to get a macintosh working on a custom made PC. You can find guides from tonymacx86.com or www.insanelymac.com. Hackintosh community Is very mutuel and the hackintosh process is getting easier each time. But the downside of these hackintosh is that you have to be careful of which hardware you pick, because apple didn’t make driver for all hardwares. For example I have the amd vega cards for this build largely because imac pro is using the vega gpu and hackintosh will support natively. If i had a nvidia card which is can be done, but the work around it is using a very old nvidia drivers that apple implemented, so the support is not so fluid. Anyway if you are interested definitely check the website!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Beautiful clean build! I love it! What lamp is that over your monitor? I have been in the market for one for a while and that looks exactly like what I need!

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! It is called benq screenbar lamp, and i bought from amamzon for $99, which is not cheap for a lamp haha. But this do works great! I just dont know how long it can last tho

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

I couldn't work out if it was a light or sound bar.

Can you give the monitor model for your two monitors?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Hahah it was the benq light bar.

The ultrawide monitor is from microboard and it has been discontinued. The other one is the lg 27uk650.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks mate. I should have waited for your answer as I spent about 12h researching the state of the nation in monitor tech & came to the conclusion .... a 34" QFHD & 27" 4k would be a good set up :> Exactly your setup.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

hahaha, no problem. I think for gaming 120hz 34 ultrawide or 144hz 2k panel is great. For content creators, 4k is nice. good luck with your build!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Two words, noctua chromax. Oh ya, nice build haha

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha that is right! Totally forgot this option! Thanks

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi, idk if this is a noob question and it can be done to every cpu cooler but how did you put the radiator horizontal with a vertical mobo? Is it possible with the H80i V2?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha the cooler mount is a square which means, in theory, it can be mounted any orientation. But some pump head has tubing going out on the side(like the one I have in the picture) sometimes it cant block by another component like ram slot. For h80i, just by looking at the picture, it should fine I think, it shouldn't be blocked by anything, so yea you should be able to mount any orientation you like.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Not finding the replacement riser cable link, great build over all though.

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

What length do you recommend

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

The stock cable is about 30cm. I bought the 20 cm one, which is still more than enough. I would say if you mount your graphic card facing inside, 20 is good. if you mount your graphic card facing outside, than 30cm I would say.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

This is the one I always use, never a problem and I've used these in multiple builds

EZDIY NEW PCI Express 16x Flexible... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NH0GW7Z?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

I think this will not fit the bracket for this case particularly. Since this case is using a 90-degree angle riser cable.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

What is this? An ad? XD. +1

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

lmao Thanks for the compliment :P

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build man, I am going to use this case because of its design too, love the white cable, would it be possible for you to post the Cablemod white cable set link too? And does Amazon have this kind of riser cable replacement?

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha sure. I just realized I am using the Corsair cable set, which is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7HEV5I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Works great with the corsair SF600.

For the riser cable part, phanteks is using a 90-degree angle riser cable( which is not uncommon), but the orientation is the exact opposite of the most 90-degree riser cable on the market. It is hard to explain, but basically, most of the riser cable will not work. You will know what I mean once you get the case. There is only one I found can kind of work and from an American seller. link: https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-PCI%252dExpress-PCI%252dE-90-Degree-Angled-Extension-Cable-Riser-%2816x%29.html This one will be in the right orientation, but the screw hole does match with the bracket, so you kind of just plug in and let it hung on the bracket which is fine. This riser cable is also in my photos too; they are in the last few photos. I would say this cable works fine, but the color is pretty ugly so I still ordered the one from the Chinese Alibaba website, and always the screw hole should match.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! And what is the length of the PCI E cable you bought from Alibaba

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

I got the 25cm one. if you mount you gpu air intake facing inside the case, any length 15cm will be enough i think. If you want the gpu to face outside, then at least 25cm is probably required. The stock riser cable is about 30cm btw.

  • 17 months ago
  • 1 point

Photos are the 3rd and last have the cable I mention above

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Great build man!

Probably one of the best build I have seen for this case, +1!

I was wondering if you could post some photos without the side/front panels, Im curious about the cable management since Im planning on getting this chassi as well.

One last thing, any issues with the i/o panel and USB cables?

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Haha, thanks. I can upload some more pictures maybe the next two days. I don't have any problems with the i/0 panel or USB cables. Do you have a specific problem that you are concerning about?

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh, i see. For me all my cables are fine. My longest cable is the DisplayPort cable, And lit is still be able to close no problem. this is cable that i am using

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005H3Q59U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-0rqBbY5B390N

I think his problem is largely due to vga and cery think displayport (looks like a displayport 1.4 in the picture, tubing is very thick) 1.4 doesnt bend easily so it might creat some problems.

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Tanks man!

I really appreciate your answers!

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Just uploaded some more photos~

  • 17 months ago
  • 2 points

Just bought the pc case. How long was your riser cable replacement? Also WOW great build!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Haha Thanks! I got the 20cm one, which is plenty long enough. The stock riser cable is 30 cm. If you are worried about the length I would say just buy the 30 cm one to match the stock riser cable.

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

The PCie cable in the pics is white but the one you linked it black. Where’d you get the white one?

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes. I tested many riser cables, and the white is the only few that can fit the bracket in this case, but the screw holes don't match. So the white riser cable you see in the picture kind of just hang on the bracket. anyway, here is the link. https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-PCI%252dExpress-PCI%252dE-90-Degree-Angled-Extension-Cable-Riser-%2816x%29.html

I would still recommend the black one tho.

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

awsome build, what length do you need for the riser cable?

+1 for the hackintosh and clean setup

  • 16 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! I bought a 20cm long riser cable which is plenty. The stock riser cable is about 30cm, so if you want to be safe you can get a 30cm one.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

How hard was it to get the Vega 64 working? Was it just a Clover config entry?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

The main reason that I use vega 64 is that high sierra support vega 64 natively. It is basically plug and play. But you do need whatevergreen.kext and lilu.kext I think that is about it.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you have any issues with the GPU?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

VEGA 64 is great. No issues at all beside the riser cable.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You should include the monitor and peripherals in the part list, but really cool build nonetheless.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Will do that! Thanks!

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

What the your temps like?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Not great for the GPU. The vega 64 can hit to 75c when gaming with hard throttling.

I delid my i7 8700k, and I was able to run a 4.8 overclock all core and max temp is around 70c.

I would say if you mainly run GPU intensive application, then this is probably not a great case for it.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi,

Thank you for your sharing and if you could give me some advice.

I have the same case and SF600 with 1070Ti, I am planning to replace the 1070Ti to VEGA 64.

I want to know is your VEGA 64 supported MacOS Mojave? Apple recommended the eGPU is from XFX and Sapphire, I am not sure if all brands VEGA 64 will native supported Mojave?

Also, I am wondering if the PSU 600W can handle the VEGA 64? I see some documents said they will recommend the 750W PSU, should I need to choose VEGA 56 if I really don't want to upgrade the PSU?

Thanks.

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

You are talking about Hackintosh correct?

For me 600w psu is enough. I've done some testing, and found my vega 64 only uses 300w max. Combine with my cpu it is only around 500w to 550w which is an absolute extreme condition, so i guess 600w psu is fine.

In terms of hackintosh support, all vega 64 will have very good compatibility whether it is xfx or other brands. I have the founders edition and it works perfectly. The only things you need becareful is that 1.stock riser cable from phanteks will make your hackintosh system crash. I mention more detail in the original article 2.your vega 64 will work natively, but the fan speed is werid, and you need kexts to make them speed up and down.

If you have an asus motherboard, I can give you my EFI folder, and your system should work perfectly since I spend a lot of time to adjust the EFI settings.

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I am talking about the Hackintosh.

  1. I have running dual-boot OS (Win10+Hackintosh). like CS: GO, Win10 is working fine, average FPS around 120, on Mac, it will drop to around 20-30 FPS and keep freeze. I also tried to replace another the riser cable, both only not working on the Hackintosh, So I am not sure if I am missing something?

  2. Thank you I will search Google how to do that.

Yes, I am using the Asus motherboard which is ROG STRIX Z370-I GAMING, I will send you the private message.

Thank you and I am appreciated for your help :)

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea, but sometimes people just want the best of everything; even it might not be the best option for its price... haha

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Superb looking build ! I'm now done with a shift build myself. :-D What temps does your GPU get in gaming and does it get very noisy ?

  • 11 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Gpu temp during gaming usually goes all the way to 70c with max fan speed including the case fan and gpu fan and it is crazy loud. So it gets pretty hot haha. I usually just leave the fan speed 50% and let the gpu throttle. Cant do much about it but honestly, I don't really care about the extra 10% performance since I don't do gaming that much.

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

How did you set up the RGB ram colours? Very nice build btw!

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks The ram color can be set up using the corsair software

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

Does it remain the same colour if its set in windows & I boot into macOS?

  • 10 months ago
  • 1 point

umm, which color are you talking about? so basically the macos and windows i installed are two sperate systems which are independent.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey man im about to pull the trigger soon on my build thats very similar to yours. hahah basically used yours as reference. anyway was hoping i could get some info for your custom sleeved cables, can you provide your config for the cables? length, how many etc, and now that youve finished your build, what lengths would you have gone for to save space?

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi,

Here is the link to the sleeve I brought. https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/ACC-Series/ACC-Color/Pin-Out/premium-individually-sleeved-psu-cable-kit-pro-package-type-4-generation-3-config/p/CP-8920153

It has all the specifications of each cable.

Honestly, It is been a long time since I built this pc, so I don't remember exactly. I think the motherboard cable was way too long, but others are just fine. I would suggest you get the kit first and return later when you get the sense of length that you need.

Good luck!

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

thanks for that! appreciate the response

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Love this build m8, and props on the super clean setup! I have one question tho, I would like to do a budget build in this case with a Ryzen 2600 and the ROG Strix RX 570. The RX 570 is a dual fan card and I would like to know if it will run cool enough in this case or would it just thermal throttle? If possible I would like to have the card facing out towards the glass but I would rather have a functioning system first. Thx

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

haha thanks!

Even though RX 570 does have a power consumption around 190w which is pretty low, but I would still think thermal throttle is going to occur, especially you are using a dual fan card which is going to output the heat and trap the heat inside the case. Facing out towards the glass would actually making it worse since the gpu is close to the glass, and the fans would not be able to create any air pressure. Because of the nature of this case, I think thermal throttle is almost inevitable unless you go for water cooling and which is this case designed to do. Just for reference my vega 64 would reach to 64c with a boost clock at 1100Mhz which is terrible. Yours is definitely going to be better than mine but I would say don't expect too much haha. Good luck!

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok thx for your help:)

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

I Know this maybe a Dumb Question but if you had a bigger case like a Mid Tower something like this ----> https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-CARBIDE-Mid-Tower-Tempered-CC-9011132-WW/dp/B079JV8ZB9/ref=pd_ybh_a_21?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=2J9NKB1S7GDAFJ3N5B85&th=1

Will the cable issue be solved since you would be using the motherboard socket? And not buying a third party adaptor/connector.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

yes, that will definitely be no cable issues. Actually, most PCI-E adaptors don't have any problems. It is just the cable from this particular case has a problem.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

yea... i want to make a hackintosh too but do you think this Motherboard will be ok with this GPU or is it under kill? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QcLtvn

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

yea I think all vega 64 will work natively. About the motherboard, I have never used a Gigabyte motherboard for Hackintosh before, so I am not sure. The Asus motherboard that I am currently using works pretty well tho, that is all I can tell you about.

  • 6 months ago
  • 1 point

THX man i will let u know how it went! i found the motherboard on tony hackintosh page and assume there shouldn't be any issues. Hopefully it isn't too hard to configure the bios to work whit the Motherboard.