Description

This is my current rebuild of my gaming system. The parts were purchased over a period of 6 to 9 months, mostly on sale. I aimed to maximize my GPU performance while leaving room to upgrade to whatever the equivalent will be for the final run of AM4 processors, to the current 3900X chip. I didn't cable manage as well as I could've and that's the one thing I would change.

No problems.

The audio levels of this setup are actually quite reasonable. I get asked about it all the time. The system sounds like a jet engine when booting, but I find that to be mildly hilarious. Fan curves are 10% to 40C, 30% to 50C, 60% to 60C, 80% to 80C. Very quiet under load.

Part Reviews

CPU

This is an excellent value-per-dollar processor. I have had nothing but good experiences with mine. This is especially appealing if you are upgrading and live near a Micro Center. Make the drive and save yourself fifty bucks on the processor when you buy a motherboard, if you can. Otherwise, worth the 199.99 MSRP and more.

CPU Cooler

This is an excellently priced 360mm AIO. Took off one star because Fractal doesn't include the greatest fans with the unit, but that's easily replaced. Warranty void stickers on a product designed to be opened is a joke, and is now technically illegal in the United States. Otherwise, I would forgive the fans and give five stars. Can't get behind that though. Also, the fan hub is pretty worthless, given that most fan headers only provide about one amp worth of current, if you're considering doing a push-pull setup.

Motherboard

This is a decent motherboard. Lacks features that more expensive boards would have, but this does me just fine. 3 stars because I feel the heatsink implementation could've been more intelligently implemented (a-la the ASRock Pro series of motherboards), I don't like MSI's UEFI, and the lack of other features on more expensive boards like the ASUS Prime.

Certainly gets the job done though. Better than my last motherboard (Z170). Would recommend spending the extra 50-100 bucks and getting something nicer, though.

One nice-to-have about this board is the amount of fan, pump and RGB headers included. Lots of play-room.

Memory

This kit was perfect for Ryzen, but I'm underwhelmed by the RGB aspect. I didn't buy for RGB though. This was the cheapest CL 16 3600 kit I could get at the time of purchase. RAM is RAM. Minus one star for underwhelming RGB effects (set mine to static). Otherwise, this is great RAM.

Storage

Subpar application performance offset by class leading TBW endurance ratings. If you don't want to spend the money on a Samsung Evo drive, this is likely to be your next best bet. For application performance, stick with Intel 660p, but if you have things in mind other than application performance, this is among the best NVME drives you can buy. See the Tom's Hardware review for more info. 4 stars, minus one for poor application performance.

Storage

I purchased this as a secondary drive for my system, for around seventy dollars on sale. Since I'm not putting it through heavy use and intend on using it mostly for archiving and non-gaming related things, I think it will do just fine.

Wouldn't use this as a system drive, though, given that NVME is so cheap now.

Video Card

This is an excellent card and the heat sink and fans all seem to be adequate. I can't think of a single thing I don't like about it. Comes with anti-sag brace and looks the part of a beast. Five stars. No complaints.

Case

This is a great case. However, you will need to modify the dust filters with something more breathable, like the Pura PC Filter on Amazon, in order to get the full benefits of the case. For that, I must take off a star.

I purchased this on sale for under 80 dollars. Unlikely to ever be that cheap again, but I'd pay 100 for it, easily, and no more. Plenty of working space. Cable management is so easy that it's a joke.

One bad thing is how fat the case is.

One amazing thing is the ability to configure your fans in all possible orientations, which was the reason I selected this case to begin with.

One ironic thing is that this case does worse with air flow than the Dynamic (unmodded), making the Dynamic a better "airflow" case and this airflow oriented case a better stock "water cooling" case.

Power Supply

I chose this part because Corsair is known for high quality PSUs and it had ample power. This is a remnant from my last build. Paid 80$ at time of purchase. Zero complaints. Five stars.

Wireless Network Adapter

If this part was plug-and-play, it would get five stars from me. Instead, minus one, because it does it's job.

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Comments

  • 5 months ago
  • 2 points

Newbie here... I was planning a similar build but with a Ryzen 5 2600 instead but might switch to that 3600. What kind of motherboard would you upgrade to with your CPU?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey there, friendo!

So, when I upgrade this particular system, I wouldn't actually upgrade my motherboard to go up to the 3900X equivalent for next socket. Most X570 and X470 have very similar featuresets, chipset configurations, support lists, etc etc. The thing to keep in mind as the big difference between X470 and X570 is that X570 has PCIE Gen 4 support. That's pretty much it. Just might want to make sure that your motherboard has the appropriate number of power sockets for whatever chip you decide to use! Chips more powerful than, say, a 3800X may need more than 8 pins.

I think if anyone was considering going from a 3600 to literally anything better, buying an X570 motherboard is a bit overkill. That's sort of why I bought mine in the first place, though! Surely AMD will release a new line of motherboards when the next generation of AM4 socket chips comes out, but if I'm going to be honest, even people still running X370 motherboards are still perfectly fine, especially if they have decent heatsinks like the ASRock Pro series. Even certain B450 boards, like the MSI Tomahawk, are perfectly serviceable for basically all the intended future AM4 socket upgrades.

If you're going to buy a 3600, my recommendation would be to just to use a 200$ X570 board from either Gigabyte or ASUS. If you need to save a buck though, the MSI Tomahawk B450 boards can be BIOS flashed without having a CPU installed, so you will be able to run 3rd gen (and all future gens) basically right out of the box, given you prepare with the proper USB stick. Better to buy a two dollar pen drive than a 50 dollar used CPU that you'll socket once and resell, amirite? :P

So, in summation/TL;DR, if you have the money for it, a 200$ X570 board will serve you nicely, from either Gigabyte or ASUS. If you're more budget oriented, check out the MSI Tomahawk B450 boards, because you can flash BIOS without a CPU socketed.

Thank you for your positive comment!

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Good information here! Sorry to jump in on platfacade's thread -- it's a great question and yes, I would say get the 3600 if you can because you're that much further ahead with newer architecture, and AMD did do quite a bit of updating to the 3000 series chips. As KetoVapeDrumGame said, do pay attention to information on motherboards older than the X570 line, as you will need to update the BIOS on them (B350/X370, B450/X470) before booting them up with a Ryzen 3000 series CPU. Some of the newest stock "may" have been updated from the factory, but I wouldn't count on it just yet. The easiest way is, as mentioned, using a USB thumbdrive with the new BIOS properly loaded on it from a different computer -- IF the motherboard supports USB BIOS updates. Most MSI motherboards do, plus a few others -- they will advertise this feature. Otherwise you will have to boot up the board with a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 CPU installed in order to update the BIOS. AMD will send you a loaner CPU to do this if you contact them. I currently have the MSI B350M Pro VDH, and I'm not sure about using it to upgrade to say, Ryzen 3700X/3800X and 4 sticks of 3600 DDR4. So, I have also been looking at motherboards, and also looked at the MSI Tomahawk B450 which is nice. On the X570 side I was looking at the MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi, since it is a $200 X570 board and seems to have good reviews. Gigabyte and ASUS offer good options here as well, and I have used all three over the years. I am only looking at jumping up to the X570 boards because I might have to upgrade my motherboard anyway, and if so, I would like the newer tech. But a B450 or X470 would still work, and it would be cheaper, plus it would still be a slight upgrade from my B350 board. Good luck and keep asking questions!!

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Holy cow wasn't expecting so much advice! I really appreciate it fellas. I definitely don't want to mess around with flashing a BIOS so I'll read up on these motherboards: [MSI MPG X570], [ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus]. Apparently they're coming out with a "Tomahawk Max" for the Ryzen 3000 CPUs??

I'm also not sure of which monitor to get but know for sure i want one that has 1920x1080 resolution and 144hz and preferably 24". This build will be an upgrade as a christmas gift so i'm in no rush! :) Thanks again!

  • 5 months ago
  • 0 points

Very nice setup. I'm looking to upgrade my Ryzen 5 1600 system, and I wanted to start with RAM. I've been looking at the TridentZ Neo kit that you have. Wondering what your opinion about its RGB was, as you said you were underwhelmed by that. I was originally looking at Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (white), but I see more issues in the reviews than I do in the G.Skill (plus this kit is designed for Ryzen so that's a plus.) Anyway, could you be more specific about what you didn't like about the RGB? Was it the software (iCue? Mystic Light?) Or do they just not look that good?

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey, thanks friendo!

I suspect that it's mostly to do with the softwares that I've been using, but I haven't found a program that allows me to get the sort of blue/pink breathing effect I was looking for. Currently using the G.Skill software to just keep things on static.

Honestly, the kit itself I think looks great and it performs well enough. I didn't have any problems with XMP profiles or anything and it hit CL 16 3600. It really is just kind of the lack of flexibility of the RGB controller itself that bums me out, which very well could actually just be software related.

Otherwise, I think these would be great sticks to get for anyone getting Ryzen and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. I think honestly too, my complaint was more aimed at just RGB RAM in general and less at these specific sticks.

Thank you for the positive comment!