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Lucifer

by ivan_lazarov

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Details

Date Published

March 1, 2015

Date Built

Jan. 2, 2014

CPU Clock Rate

4.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

32.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

60.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

800 MHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

5 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

35.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

65.0° C

Description

Hi everyone! This has been my main AMD build for about a year or so. It did a great job for CAD, graphics design and gaming but I sold it because of it's size and went down at MicroATX form factor (have look at my other build Senna S I have just purchased full water cooling setup for it :) ). Anyway, at the time when put the AMD together I was on a rather tight budget but result was great. I modelled the case in Solidworks and modified it slightly. Here's a log of the build:

  • Day 1: Basic chassis components modeled. Color scheme chosen - Mate black and candy red;
  • Day 2: More details added. Removable frame for the motherboard cad-ed, front and top panels completed, legs and various brackets - done!
  • Day 3: Most accessories completed. Acrylic window added. Concept ready for painting!
  • Day 4: 230mm Fans cad-ed, motherboard, radiator, Corsair cooling, SSD and HDD added to the assembly, Fan cables sleeved, power switches panel cables sleeved and the case is Back in Mate Black :)
  • Day 5: XFX GPU, case dust filters, PSU - completed. Most accessories painted in red in generic red + layer of flakes. Mate black paint of the case completed, prepared for red coating tomorrow.
  • Day 6: Painting of all components completed. Ready for assembling!
  • Day 7: All fans sleeved, and components assembled and tested! Successful first boot of the AMD beast!
  • Day 8: Extensions of the ATX power lines custom sleeved in red and black.

If you like it have a look at my current project: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/bpWXsY

Part Reviews

CPU

It is still one of the best CPU you could get for its price! I used it for about two years. With appropriate cooler you can overclock it substantially. I primarily used it for rendering in Maya, Solidworks and Keyshot.

CPU Cooler

The best All-in-one cooler I have tried on my FX-8350. I had a large dual tower Silverstone Heligon H01 before it and the cooling improvement was great.

Case

Because of the hot components I owned, I needed a large case with enough air volume and good airflow to keep them nice and cool. I found an rather old Cooler Master ATCS 840 in great condition very cheap. I literally disassembled, cleaned, painted and reinforced it. Excellent build quality. If you have a lot of hardware to fit in it and there is one online - get it!

Comments Sorted by:

sirisaacnewton 2 points 46 months ago

While the end cube with the fan that is on the back of the chassis can be unsightly, this is a very great build and a very gorgeous case. Kudos.

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 2 points 46 months ago

The exhaust cube was included in the box, probably if you run 2-3-4 way SLI with reference design cards, which blow from the back of the case. It simply helps the GPUs to cool better. However it is not really needed, the case was ridiculously large anyway. In fact it is so large that my girlfriend was the happiest person in the world when I sold it and went Micro ATX form factor :D

Meithen 2 Builds 2 points 46 months ago

Really awesome paint job!

bigg_critter 1 Build 2 points 46 months ago

nice paint work +1

Cibex 2 points 46 months ago

Awesome paint job! Although I must say looking at your custom sleeving is making me want to learn how to sleeve myself! Anyway +1 bro

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 1 point 46 months ago

That build what long ago and the sleeving was simply making extensions for the existing harness. Have a look at my current build if you are interested in custom sleeving. ( http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/bpWXsY ) Anyway it is not so hard, even becomes monotonous at some point if you have 100 cables to do. You simply need a long coil of standard 2mm thick multicore cable, a bunch of male and female molex crimps, a crimping tool, wire cutters/strippers, any sleeving you want, heat shrink and heatgun or lighter, atx molex connectors male on the hardware side and female on the other (it really depends on the modular PSU connectors every one is different) You simply cut the wires into the size you need. You strip both ends an crimp them, takes a bit of practice. Then you insert them in the molex connectors, it is very very very important to put them in the correct locations, otherwise you WILL damage your hardware. So do this on your own responsibility. As people say measure twice, cut once :) If you are pedantic enough you could try to lace the cables every inch or so as I did in my new build. But it is really laborious thing, though it looks so much better! Cheers!

xxonejjxx 2 points 46 months ago

How did you CAD that and how long have you been doing it for ? I want a career that involves that if you can give me any feedback it would be great !

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 3 points 46 months ago

Hi, I am glad you are interested in CAD. Well, it takes some time and effort but some general tips: - If you want to do engineering CAD, i.e. stuff for manufacturing, assembling manuals, thermal analysis, finite element analysis, an easy way to start is Solidworks. - If you want to model objects that look good on a render and possibly want to do some animations, visual effects and generally in art direction - Autodesk Maya or 3Ds Max is the way to go. This particular CAD is done in Solidworks. I did not do it only for fun but because you can easily port any 3D view on a flat 2D engineering drawing and get it CNC-ed, milled or whatever. Also I did some fluid dynamics simulations with a lower detail model, to see how exactly the airflow goes in/out, what are the dead spots in the case design, where does turbulence occur, how do hardware components interact with the fluid thermally, and when somebody asks you: Dude, why do you have so many stupid fans in your rig isn't it noisy?!?! - you just show him the fluid analysis, period! :D It takes several months to get used to the software and to become faster and more productive, after that the only limit is your imagination!

xxonejjxx 1 point 45 months ago

That's so cool man I'm in high school and I'm certified ( Not so high ) in both Solidworks and Autodesk Inventor. It's something I really enjoy and it's just that whole analysis stuff I have not yet gotten into. What type of classes have you taken or probably recommend ? I'm trying to make a computer that runs those programs pretty smoothly. What level of certification are you in solidworks ?

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 1 point 45 months ago

Ideally a heavy workstation oriented build will be perfect for Solidworks, especially if you plan to work on enormous assemblies with hundreds of objects. A nVidia Quadro of AMD FirePro will be perfect for that, however they are quite expensive and you can't really use them for graphics demanding gaming. However if you get a solid gaming > GTX 7-- or AMD R9 --- any these cards would perfectly run any fancy assembly, of course they will not offer the performance of a Quadro but you will probably not notice the difference anyway. I am currently using a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1, which I am watercooling while I am writing this message... and it renders in real time perfectly a racing car assembly with 252 parts at > 60 FPS, I was impressed to be honest. So if you want (like me) to be able to do decent CAD and to game any title at high settings, get high end gaming card (or two), (or three) and it will serve you well. Just get a brand new one if it's AMD, people mine to death with high end R9s and sell them for pennies afterwards, because of the wide bandwidth they have! I am not yet certified at any level in SW and Maya, because I have never had to use them professionally. I do a lot of electrical and mechanical engineering at uni and I am oriented at robotics career. All the stuff I create are for myself or some competitions. PM me if you need any help or want to see some models.

xxonejjxx 1 point 45 months ago

Yeah I was thinking of using a ASUS R9 270 and then get another card over time. I know it won't be the best thing out there compared to the Quadro for gaming but it would do. Nice I was thinking of sticking with AMD on the processor with a FX 6300. Considering that I'm making mine on a budget, I feel that over time I can upgrade it and then b e even more satisfied. And for me, I'm in high school still so I feel that there most likely will be an upgrade. Yeah I will get my parts new for sure. Nice man its good to actuaslly talk to someone who has been somewhere in the engineering field and giving me advice. I want to either get into mechanical engineering or going for civil engineering and then minoring in construction management. Overall I got so much life ahead of me and hopefully I keep running into people like you who can share their experiences and knowledge. Man how do you get the advantage of using a cnc machine freely ? I could only use one with permission haha A 3-D printer as well. But yeah man I will surely go to you sometime. Thanks for the help man !

confuzledandlost 40 Builds 2 points 45 months ago

+for Team Red! Great build my friend!

MicahDubs 2 points 45 months ago

That turned out very nicely! +1

MacLaddy 2 points 35 months ago

Great build. I found this from your review on the FX-8350 and it definitely perked my interest. I'm trying to put together a budget build that can handle Solidworks FEA and CFD analysis, plus some Ansys/Matlab simulation. I noticed you said that this processor served you well for a few years, which makes it older than I previously thought. Do you still think it would hold up for student level analysis/design? I'm not too worried about rendering at this point, mostly FEA/CFD. Do you have any recommendations for a better budget processor? I also read some of your comments below that you actually analyzed the fluid motion in this case? I would love to see that. Any chance you youtubed it? Would you mind sharing any of that information? Also, last question, is that image of the Radeon HD5970 rendered in Solidworks? That looks great. If so, how did you manage that? Thanks.

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 2 points 35 months ago

Hi, I usually use Keyshot for rendering it is superior to the engine integrated in SW. For CFD you would get better results from Autodesk CFD. The FX8350 cpu is old but gold. You will hardly find best value for money. It is not the best performing CPU however it is still a decent one. Keep in mind that it has high TDP and you will need good cooling for it. One problem with buying older gen CPUs is that there are hardly any motherboards with up to date features which support them. MSI have a modern version of their Gaming series for the 970 chipset. Otherwise look for the Asus Maximus 990. I usually upload some of the models I do on my linkedin account. It is the same as my nickname here.

MacLaddy 2 points 35 months ago

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I actually started a topic in the forum titled "Budget build for engineering student," and it links to my current--rough draft--build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/9pRWNG

I'd appreciate any input you could give, especially considering your experience with the subject.

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

Hi, I think you need bigger CPU cooler for this processor. I have used FX8120 with it did not perform very well. It might be alright for light loads however, considering that you are going to push it will extensive floating point calculations for long periods of time, I would advise getting a larger one: Decent large air cooled heat sinks:

(Good/loud)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019]

(Better/silent)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu9s]

(Best/loud)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebk]

Decent All in one liquid coolers:

(cheap/nice looking)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/deepcool-cpu-cooler-captain240]

(expensive/best of all)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i]

Do not get this motherboard. The heatspreader on top of the VRMs next to the CPU socket is small. Those CPUs eat a lot of power you need board with larger heat sinks. Cheaper ( 970 older chipset boards):

(Decent BIOS/good price/good quality)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-970gaming]

More expensive(990 latest chipset):

(Better version of the one above)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-990fxagaming]

(This is one is not too bad as well)[http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-990fxkiller]

The PSU you have picked is quite expensive: EVGA P/G1/G2 series are excellent price/quality

The memory you have picked is 2400MHz. Those CPUs do not like anything above 2133MHz. I would personally go with less expensive 1866MHz you will hardly ever see the difference. Also 32GB is total overkill for budget PC. (2x8)16GB is plenty for any hardcore 3D scene you can upgrade later on. Put the cash in cooling and motherboad instead.

I presume that you have these two GPUs?

The case is good.

ivan_lazarov submitter 5 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

This is what I would buy in your place: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ivan_lazarov/saved/ddWkcf

Consider 120GB SSD for you OS and CAD software it will dramatically increase your workflow speed.

This is my current build which I use both for CAD and gaming. See the description for more details. When I complete it I will uploaded it as finished. Helvetios - http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ivan_lazarov/saved/gZFD4D

MacLaddy 1 point 35 months ago

Great, thanks. I'll definitely look into those options. Easy to tell you're an engineer. Most people don't give enough thought to heat transfer.

Hazarded 1 point 46 months ago

Dats Hawt

AntiKorperViral 1 point 32 months ago

How did you get the radiator to fit the fans so perfectly?

coolnjebs998 1 point 22 months ago

That must havebeen hell to paint

wink wink

CarCat 1 point 15 months ago

Have you overclocked? If so, what to?

NateBoi 2 Builds 1 point 7 months ago

+1 for the HD 5970