Description

Chassis - Sugo 13B

After having a big tower (CM Stom Stryker), I wanted to make something small. Small enough to fit in a backpack and travel around. A laptop didn't cut it for me, because all the parts are cut down versions (except for Asus GX700 series). My previous selection was the Corsair 380T, it had plenty of room and easy tocarry around, but once I realised how big it was, I dropped the idea. Many options were there for shoe-box style chasis, Thermaltake Vseries, CoolerMasters Elite series. But the Sugo was the best in terms of ventilation, size, graphics card support and cooling options.

6700k over 5820k?

My initial build was based on the 5820k, but since the 6700k showed better performance, I decided to select it and 8 threads is enough for multi-tasking stuff like rendering and encoding. Really happy with the rendering speed with iRay. The motherboard for the 5820k is kinda expensive too.

CPU Cooler

Went for the Seidon 120V Plus (not listed on this website), which comes with the CM JetFlo fan. Reason for choosing this was: 1. Tubing: flexibile tubing, thin tubing, ease of changing position of tubes at pump header 2: Radiator: Thin 25mm, with high density 21fpi. The JetFlow fan is pretty loud according to reviews, but I had 2xGT 1850RPM fans from my previous build to use with it.

Storage

For now, I plan to play 1-2 games and render moderately. For that purpose, 250GB was more than enough. M.2 to reduce cabling for the case. Will probably add a 1TB SSD later when prices drop.

What!? No Graphics? Acquired R9 Nano

Before completing the build, I was looking into the MSI R9 390 which fits but need to remove the air filter. But as the Fury Nano prices dropped, Ive decided to wait a bit more (get the cash) and settle for that. As of now I dont have a 4k monitor, so a Nano would be a waste. Im going to play at 1080p and clear a backlog of my games. Was planning to get a cheap 7850 or GTX 760, but everything seems to be okay for now (2-3 year old games are running fine at 1080p medium settings).

Got an R9 Nano at a decent price, so decided to take the drop. Another reason for the Nano is, as you can see, I have more space inside the chasis for changes in the future (eg custom water loop or switching to a 140mm radiator) and ofcourse its less power hungry than the R9 390.

CPU Temperatures @ stock

Idle: 25C

Dota 2 - 55C

Rendering: 78C

Prime95 Small FFT v28: 88C (the most heat producing test)

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Comments

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

The Gentle Typhoons are still sold ?

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Not on retail channels anymore, can find them on E-bay though. I had these from a build back from 2013.

Them being non-PWM fans, im possibly thinking of changing them with PWM ones with similar performance on the pressure and noise front.

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  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Since an r9 390 wouldn't fit, you could get an ITX version of a GTX 970. I know gigabyte and asus both make short PCB versions of the 970 which should fit perfectly in your case.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, nvidia cards seem to be the choice. However, given the whole recent 4gb ram limit thing, I want to get an MSI R9 390 (fits), or perhaps a Nano IF it gets fixed Rise of the Tomb Raider gobbling up ram.

Otherwise the only option seems to be a GTX 980 Ti.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

How do you like the mobo? is there anything you would change about it? I am interested in it for my second pc i have planned. also why did you point out a thin rad when, at least from the overhead pic, it looks like a h80 in push/pull would fit?

sorry for the 20 Q's love the build.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Well idk what was I thinking, but I came to the conclusion a 27mm rad would be good enough with clearance. H80i would be a tight fit, but doable. Kinda regretting that now, since the H80i has coolant temperature monitoring, but then again the 12pin and headers connect on the side which would be facing the fan. It will be hard to tuck the wires under the radiator and not make them touch the fan at the same time. But its doable.

Second reason to go for a CM over Corsair was that the tubing on a CM AIO unit is thinner and takes less space.

Motherboard is great. It has all the features of Asus's premium with a lesser price tag (except U.2 - but thats really niche imo). Asus's premium Impact ITX also has the daughterboard which might be an issue. Dont think I could ask for anything better. Also got AC Syndicate bundled with it.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey there, A couple months ago I did a very similar build (basically yours but haswell). So I thought I'd let you know that the 390, while it entices you with its 8gb of vram, it heavily destroys your cpu temps. The only model that fits is the Gigabyte model and let me tell you. The 390 rasied my cpu temps 20+ degrees and my poor 500w power supply couldn't take it either. Do what I did and get a reference blower style GTX 970 and you'll be set. AAA titles never go passed 3.3-3.7gb vram. Back to the blower style suggestion, I recommend this becasue instead of your GPU radiating into the case, it will focus all of its airflow out the back with a blower style. You made a nice choice with the water cooler, my tubes are thicker and made it hard to work with. You did and didn't make the right decision with the power supply. Modualrity is a plus but even PCPP can tell u that a Gigabyte 390 need a minimum of 600w.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for your input. Im currently looking into a 4k setup, and am gather funds for that card. So its either going to be a GTX 980 Ti or an R9 Nano. There are people who've had R9 390, and I will double check with them on OCN and here, also with the R9 Nano guy.

If they all give a no-go, then its the GTX 980 Ti for me.

This build has the Giga R9 390 and a SFX 500W with an i5 6600k. https://pcpartpicker.com/b/66WXsY

  • 52 months ago
  • 2 points

If you watch LinusTechTips you might stumble on this video (https://youtu.be/MjDJNwAANwA) which was the inspiration to do mine. This is a great video and shows how one might push the limits of the Sugo case. Also, I looked at that very same PCPP list before building mine. I figured that he did ok so I would, the temps however were just too high and the psu was squealing with coil whine. If you do go with the 980ti, like previously stated, go with a blower stlye. Please.

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you have any issues with the M.2 SSD installation? I have nearly the same build (even using onboard graphics), and the if the SSD is installed, the computer just power cycles and will not even allow me to get to BIOS. Uninstalled, I can get directly into BIOS.

Did you adjust any BIOS settings before installation, or did everything just work out of the box?

Maybe I have a defective drive...

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Could be a defective drive. Everything worked out of the box.

  • 52 months ago
  • 0 points

For gaming why don't you have GPU

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

he said in the description that he's saving up money for a Fury Nano

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

I am planning to get a Nano, and Ive run out of cash for that - but since I have a backlog of older games to play and no 4k monitor - the Intel 530 is handling its job just fine.

Dota 2 @ medium details 1080p runs at 60fps

Starcraft 2 LOTV @ 1080p High runs at 30fps.

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