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Entry Level Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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225 Comments

Description

CPU

Our CPU of choice for this budget is the Intel Pentium G4560. While it features only two cores, the G4560 also employs hyperthreading to help close the gap between it and a 4-core i5. Hyperthreading adds an additional logical core for each physical core, which is handy for streaming, video editing, and multi-tasking CPU-intensive tasks. The G4560 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for B250 chipsets and 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build. The motherboards are also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

Memory

A parametric filter is being applied to choose the best priced 2x4GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications. With this selection, we have space on the motherboards for 2 more sticks of RAM, leaving room for future expansion.

Storage

We're also using a parametric filter to select the best priced SSD available that is at least 240GB. The SSD can be used for your OS and a handful of games. Additionally, we're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 1TB drive. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or remove a drive to fit yours.

GPU

We're going with a filter for the best-priced AMD Radeon RX 470. This will run modern games at 1080p quite well. If you'd like to squeeze a little more performance out of your build for more money, you can check out the Radeon RX 480 and GeForce GTX 1060 3GB to see if their prices look appealing to you.

Case

The Deepcool TESSERACT is a mid tower case that can fit all of our components. It offers decent cable management, which can sometimes be a problem at our budget, and there's room to expand with hard drives or a solid state drive. It also has 1 USB 2.0 and 1 USB 3.0 port on the front panel. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you. There's a windowed version of the same case if you want to see your parts, and if you'd simply like a color change, there are black and red and white versions as well.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 269W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU €64.89 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €64.89 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: Intel B250
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
  • RAM Type: DDR4
€72.87 €7.99 €80.86 Mindfactory Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
€59.90 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €59.90 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 240GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
€77.49 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €77.49 Amazon Deutschland Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 1TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
€49.47 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €49.47 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon RX 470
€191.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €191.99 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Case €64.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime €64.99 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Power Supply €73.27 €73.27 Amazon Deutschland Buy
Base Total: €654.87
Shipping: €7.99
Total: €662.86
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

KLehnert 11 points 1 month ago

Is there a special reason why the parametric filter for RAM includes 2133MHz? Both the CPU and the motherboard now support 2400MHz and from what I read the G4560 will run significantly better with 2400MHz. Since the price-difference is minimal, should't the lowest recommended RAM be 2400MHz?

dxzzy 2 points 1 month ago

I thought that too! I bought an 8gb stick of Avexir 2400MHz RAM for 50$ (which is only a few bucks cheaper , but more aesthetically-pleasing with its blue LEDs) a few months back but I haven't been able to pair it with the G4560 yet to test how speedy it is. Maybe it was just overlooked in this guide?

manshaft 5 points 1 month ago

How many fps on csgo will this build get me? On low settings 1024x728

THEDESTINEDKING 17 points 1 month ago

more than your monitor will handle

manshaft 54 points 1 month ago

Did you just assume my monitor's hertz??

Keima_Kurobane 8 points 21 days ago

Best reply ever

tussiez 2 points 21 days ago

assumed 60hz.

WirelessCables 1 Build 2 points 25 days ago

7 points, (previously 6) 7 days ago...

I am the 7th son of a 7th son! xD

80-wattHamster 1 Build 0 points 6 days ago

Make it 8th son of an 8th son and then we'll talk.

WirelessCables 1 Build 1 point 5 days ago

8th son of an 8th son?

Weak

Make it a 17th son of a 17th son.

Then we'll talk.

JK

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 2 days ago

Fair enough.

It was a Discworld reference. Perhaps I was too confident that people would catch it.

deathbat6916 2 points 18 days ago

super high framerates reduce latency in CS:GO lol

ConWorks 1 point 18 days ago

what?

deathbat6916 1 point 18 days ago

60FPS just simply isn't enough in CS. It feels very laggy even on a 60Hz panel.

ConWorks 0 points 16 days ago

But you understand latency has little to nothing to do about your PC right?

InvaderGir 5 points 1 month ago

Will easily get 200+

Crazycatman 1 point 5 days ago

I get 180fps on Intel HD 4600, on my FREE i5-4590 that I found in a dumpster computer XD

TheGamingPatriot 2 points 1 month ago

Probably 100-140 FPS. CS:GO Isn't too intensive of a game.

Synchro 2 points 29 days ago

This would easily play the game, even at max settings 1080p

Stealthycat 1 point 24 days ago

Several; that's your answer! It will get you several frames.

TheGameReaper 1 point 21 days ago

This should get you about 200 frames max settings at 1080p

MrConsolePeasant 1 point 18 days ago

I'm going to have this as my first PC build... when i try CS out i will tell you how much fps it gets.

iyasku 1 point 14 days ago

Probably the cap which is around 200-300

mnjones92 4 points 1 month ago

Hi, I was wondering if there was a cheaper graphics card that could be used? Something like the EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 GAMING 2GB?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 3 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. It won't be at the same performance level, but will work just fine. RX 460 is another lower-cost option.

Dannykons 1 point 15 days ago

I play mostly low-requirement games - CS:GO, LoL, Overwatch, + the occasional Triple A like battlefield one or fallout/skyrim. How will the RX 460 compare on this build vs the 470?

aprofile 2 Builds 1 point 14 days ago

CS:GO, Lol overwatch etc. will all run at over 60fps at 1080p ultra with either cards but for battlefield 1 you might want the rx 470 unless you're ok with medium settings. I have this hardware (G4560 and RX 470) and skyrim runs locked at 60fps constantly (and I have over 20 mods, most of which are graphical, installed). I think fallout runs fairly similarly to skyrim so you should be good with an rx 470. A RX 460 would run skrim SE at ultra at around 45fps during dragon fight scenes and will stay around 60fps in less intense scenes/areas. I did look into getting a rx 460 before and if you can get one for under 100 £/$ that is a good value option but I would reccomend taking a look at a 1050ti, which would be good for high to ultra settings for all the games you play and you can sometimes see for 130 £/$.

My build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/WFTBD3

Feel free to ask any more questions you have about it. I can send you some benchmarks too if you like.

TheGrandTarantula 1 point 8 days ago

If you can find a 470 for under $150 it really doesn't make sense to go any lower. The 470 is much faster than a 1050 for only $20 more.

Banu94 4 points 1 month ago

I am looking to build my first PC and this build has been highly recommended. I want to know what kind of performance i can get expect to get out of world of Warcraft, league of legends and the newer Total War titles? I intend to run these games on low to medium settings.

KLehnert 4 points 1 month ago

WoW and LoL should both run at over 60fps at 1080p/Ultra. Total War however will be a lot slower due to the heavy CPU-load in those titles. It will be playable with reduced settings, but not with the same performance as the other games.

TheJayYo 2 points 1 month ago

Wow wouldn't run steady 60fps at max settings in the newer areas/busy areas though. You'll probably get steady 60 FPS at a 7 or 8 in the settings.

ConWorks 1 point 18 days ago

yeah if you bumped the GPU up to a rx480 it could run almost anything 60fps/ultra 1080

ILoveCostcoPizza 1 point 11 days ago

Total War: Warhammer you might be able to get by with high setting (not Ultra) but in huge battles you might have to reduce your settings. Total War: Attilla and Rome 2 you will be fine and if you face some issues its because those games were just poorly developed and has nothing to do with your computer. For me, Warhammer runs alot smoother on Ultra settings then does Attilla and Rome 2 (Rome 2 and Attilla are several years old and Warhammer just came out). WoW I haven't played in years but that's a really old game so I think you should able to play that in Max Settings, unless they significantly increased the graphics for that game . League you can easily run that at Max settings.

TimesTicking 3 points 1 month ago

How much better would the performance be using the G4600 for the CPU instead of the G4560?

DadddyDirection 5 points 1 month ago

You might notice some difference, but it wouldn't be worth it. The G4560 is the best performance per dollar budget CPU right now.

Slurth 1 Build 3 points 1 month ago

Wait until lower grade Ryzen CPUs come out...

DadddyDirection 3 points 27 days ago

I doubt AMD will come up with anything that beats the G4560 at the same price. However, I do hope they beat Intel with the prices of their more mainstream quad core CPU's.

OffBrandMtnDew 1 Build 0 points 25 days ago

I personally think the athlon x4 880k is better. The pentium is cheaper, but the mobo and ram def are not. infact, you need a $70 mobo to support kaby lake

DadddyDirection 1 point 25 days ago

However, the Pentium offers a very rich upgrade path. The Athlon is a dead end. That's how I see it.

OffBrandMtnDew 1 Build -1 points 25 days ago

processor upgrade isnt that important though, its gpu upgrade that needs focus

DadddyDirection 4 points 25 days ago

Moving forward that is getting less and less true though. Games are starting to want both, so it is better to set yourself up for an easier and more efficient upgrade path going forward. For the money the G4560 is incredible.

THEDESTINEDKING 3 points 1 month ago

Great build, I think that for the money it would be worth the extra 1$ to get the RX 480 check newegg. For some reason partpicker does not show the best prices for the 480 but at this moment there is an msi 480 for 154$ with a rebate and a powercolor one for 160$ with a rebate. I think subbing those out for the 470 will make this build more impressive.

AttackCommanderChief 3 points 27 days ago

If anyone is using Jet and are a first time customer, make sure to use that "triple15" code at checkout up to 3 times for a max of $30 off each time! It would make this build right here about ~$530 (without tax).

Don't worry ... I'm not paid to say this

KJinCton 3 points 23 days ago

Very, wet behind the ears, newbie here...just registered a few minutes ago. I'm curious, is there room for a CD/DVD drive to pair with this and what would you suggest . Second, this will be my first build ever, so I'm starting with something smaller for my wife and kids to use in our home, but I'm hoping that this comes out as a good experience for a future, larger build for my office.

I'm a photographer and I notice most of the descriptions are geared towards gaming. Any chance of someone pointing out the build guides that represent the "Good, Better and Best" for Photoshop and potentially minimal video editing. We run Photoshop, Lightroom, and InDesign more than anything else. I'm teaching myself Premiere right now but I can't imagine I would ever create a video longer than five minutes.

Cool site! I'm enjoying the information!

Shikese 1 point 17 days ago

Go ask the forums. This build is defiantly not for video editing

jgrassi552 3 points 10 days ago

I built one of these except used an ITX form factor. I play a lot of games and have built really high end gaming rigs. This is my favorite so far. Believe it or not it handles all the games i have thrown at it. (Counter strike source, Astroneer, Stranded Deep, Skyrim Remastered, Black ops 3, BF4. This thing runs smooth at 1080p high-ultra settings. Its my favorite because it didn't cost a lot and it games like a champ. Multi tasking is very easy although processor slows down when running more then 4 different programs. I usually have 4-6 chrome browsers up with a game running no problem at all. The 4560 Pentium is a wonderful inexpensive processor. The RX 470 is a nice inexpensive card although installing drivers and updating it was pain in the *** (on AMD's part) their software isn't the best. I built mine for around the same price but ended up spending $100 for windows 10, which is a common thing people leave out on these builds making them seem cheaper then they are. Id rather see a higher price tag with option to remove os then a lower one and being misled. Good build though sweet looking case and could have saved an extra $15 on power supply. corsair makes a 450w perfect for this setup.

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 3 days ago

+1 for playing astroneer.

thelsmonster 3 points 10 days ago

Why did you in an entry level PC go for a fully modular PSU, when you could use the money from a non modular PSU to upgrade to better ram or a 480

BudgetPCAddict 2 points 1 month ago

Very nice build!

TheGamingPatriot 2 points 1 month ago

Can I use a G4400 instead of the G4560 so I can use Win8.1 without issue?

InvaderGir 7 points 1 month ago

You can but that's quite a downgrade since the G4400 doesn't have Hyper-Threading.

Drake_temen 1 point 1 month ago

prob upgrade to win10. its free.

suhailskhan 1 point 23 days ago

It used to be free, but not anymore.

deathbat6916 1 point 17 days ago

Someone clearly hasn't seen the accessibility loophole lmfao.

Dirtypanqaukes 1 point 11 days ago

hmmm what is this "loophole'' you speak of my wise man?

kippers -5 points 23 days ago

and windows 7 is better for gaming anyway

SuperGuyDoesGames 3 points 16 days ago

Probably a troll, literally made his account on the 20th of February. Everything he's posted have been on this build.

Assuming you are NOT a troll, ever heard of DX12? Windows 10 only. It actually helps in some games, even in it's current state. And that state will only improve.

Also, Windows 10 is lighter than Windows 7, meaning more CPU is available for the games (If the game relies on CPU more than GPU), and consumes less graphical horses than Windows 7 (Aero is nice but still), which can only improve performance. Please explain how Windows 7 is better for gaming.

suhailskhan 2 points 20 days ago

What part makes Windows 7 so fit for gaming that Windows 10 lacks?

kippers 1 point 23 days ago

Get schooled m8

kippers 2 points 1 month ago

what, bout cooling?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 5 points 1 month ago

The included cooler/fans for both the CPU and case are sufficient for this build.

kippers 3 points 1 month ago

thx m8

Average_Bunny 2 points 1 month ago

Will this run Overwatch well? And at what FPS?

ShadowofElements 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, it will run Overwatch very well. Should be over 60 fps on max settings.

Average_Bunny 1 point 1 month ago

Thank You.

ConWorks 0 points 18 days ago

Its more like 40-60 fps on high/maybe ultra

lololololololololololololololo 2 points 27 days ago

don't underestimate the pentium

Dirtypanqaukes 1 point 11 days ago

LOL are you from austin evans?

TheGrandTarantula 1 point 8 days ago

The Kaby Lake pentiums have hyperthreading

FunctionFN 2 points 16 days ago

Is this pc Capable of running ark or darksouls three?

Viggy_Dude 2 points 13 days ago

Isn't the PSU overpriced? Cpu-5000rs Psu-15000RS.Wtf?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 6 days ago

Part pricing varies by region; PSUs seem particularly susceptible to this. In APAC, Antec should have reasonable availability and OK pricing.

Maximus42 1 point 1 month ago

Would this PC be good for games like GTA Online, Fallout 4, Fallout New Vegas, Skyrim (Each of these Bethesda games with mods running), CS GO, Titanfall 2, Overwatch, Mass Effect, and other multiplayer and single player games (definitely not COD)

CantBeatAnyone 2 points 23 days ago

A good amount of tech youtubers have done reviews of the G4560 and they have ran all of these games at 1080p with mid to high settings with averages above 60. Most were with the 1050 or 1060 though but those are quite comparable with the rx470 and 480.

Abdulaziz_19 1 point 1 month ago

I don't play 24/7 but i play at least 4 hours a day. Do you guys recommend me this pc? I play csgo and I want a good pc. On a scale of 1 to 10 what would you rate this pc? please type back.

Insertnamehere... 1 point 1 month ago

This pc will be enough to play cs:go at 1080p 60+ fps on max settings.

ConWorks 1 point 18 days ago

Its good. Nowhere near future-proof but it will last you a few years. Unless you just intend to play Counterstrike and stuff.

Catagraphix 1 point 1 month ago

So if I went with the pentium instead of i3 will there be a significant fps drop with trying to run games like Skyrim on moderate to high settings

AS118 1 point 1 month ago

Not with the Pentium G4560, which is basically an i3, just a very tiny (unnoticeably) little bit slower.

Catagraphix 1 point 1 month ago

What about the G4600 would that be a good replacement because there's no 4560s in stock at the moment

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 26 days ago

Skyrim can run on just about any modern recent CPU out there due its age.

markus0010 1 point 1 month ago

my budget is $600. Is there anything I can upgrade or replace to make this build better?

AS118 1 point 1 month ago

Honestly, for this price range, this is as optimized a build as you're likely to get. If you're willing to wait until March, AMD's new Ryzen CPU's will come out and change the landscape however, allowing you to possibly fit in a real 4-core (not 2 with hyperthreading) into a build this price, and making Intel prices probably drop.

You can tweak every component in there for price/performance/looks/preference, but this is a solid recommendation. It's the right CPU, GPU, Power Supply, Ram, and Storage / HDD configuration, and they're all balanced to work together well.

Most experienced builders would make something very similar to this, in all honesty. A Pentium G4560 with an RX 470, an SSD + HDD is the optimal configuration in this price range. You could just get 1 SSHD (Solid State Hybrid Drive) instead of 2 separate drives to save costs and get more speed than just an HDD by itself (although not as much as a real SSD) and gain a little bit of convenience by not having to manually move your library folders to the "D:" drive, but honestly, you can't go wrong with a build like this one.

This build is a very strong contender that's already better than the PS4 Pro, and should be able to run most AAA titles for years.

mike92704 1 point 24 days ago

I wouldn't expect intel's mid level cpus to drop when Ryzens r7's cpus come out in a couple of days. Those cpus are marketed towards higher priced cpus, 300+, hes going to have to wait until the lower tier cpus come out later this year. r5s, or r3s to actually experience intel price drops. Mid level to low budget cpus don't really have any competition atm so they won't need to drop in prices just yet.

SuperGuyDoesGames 1 point 16 days ago

Depends on what games you play. You could either get an i5-6400, (but cut down the SSD storage to 120gb) PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $182.99 @ B&H
Motherboard Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $46.98 @ Newegg
Memory Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $47.92 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $55.44 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ B&H
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB Video Card $159.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $42.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $636.28
Mail-in rebates -$10.00
Total $626.28
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 13:07 EST-0500

I know it is Skylake and not Kaby Lake, but besides clockspeeds not much has changed. Basically impossible to tell the difference between a Kaby Lake i5 (7400-7500) and this.

OR you could get an RX 480 8gb and a slightly higher-quality SSD. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $69.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $76.98 @ Newegg
Memory Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $47.92 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $83.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ B&H
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 480 8GB XXX OC Video Card $179.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $42.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $621.84
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $591.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-09 13:12 EST-0500

Feel free to change out the case for something more to your likeing, but I just had to add something that was in the same price range, and something that is (IMO) really good.

CantBeatAnyone 0 points 23 days ago

upgrade to ram clocked at 2400 you could get a rx480 or an nvidia 1050ti perhaos 1060

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

rx 480 is wayyyy better then 1050ti. Its even better than the 1060 aswell

AS118 1 point 1 month ago

Wow the Pentium G4560 is as much of a game changer as I thought it'd be. With the new Ryzen 4-cores coming out with i5 performance for i3 prices, Intel i3's are in trouble. Being squeezed from below by Pentiums and above from AMD Zen.

That said, price cuts will probably follow, which is good news.

jgrassi552 1 point 10 days ago

If intel drops their prices they will be in violation of anti trust act. It would be hilarious because intel has been ripping people off with price gouging for a long time.

JBelbin 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Would the i3 get me much better performance? Also I'm glad I read this page because Im ordering for my first build today and I was looking at an i3 and a 1050 TI without a solid state drive.

Insertnamehere... 2 points 1 month ago

the pentium g4560 is like an i3-6100. You could barely see the difference between an i3-6100 and pentium g4560 anyways.I say go for a pentium g4560. Also look into getting the rx 470 instead of the 1050 ti. A little more expensive but it's worth it.

JBelbin 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks. Right now I'm at a G4560 with a solid state and actually considering the 480 vs the 470 because its at 180 with a 20 dollar rwbate

JunSica 1 point 1 month ago

How well will this system runs H1Z1?

CantBeatAnyone 1 point 23 days ago

this should play h1z1 no problem with the added benefit of being able to upgrade in the future

JunSica 1 point 14 days ago

I am talking about H1Z1 KOTK btw.. but It should be fine.. I just ordered my parts the other day so yeah! let's hope it works great for H1

Dirtypanqaukes 1 point 11 days ago

gonna get this any tips on how to build a pc im so scared about the cable management

JBelbin 1 Build 1 point 29 days ago

The sale ended one hour before I went to purvchase my 720. The price now hovers around 170.FML. Good luck.

Esamenoi 1 Build 1 point 29 days ago

I'm going to be building something very similar to this spec over the weekend. Only difference is my storage and GPU as I was given a donor 2GB 560Ti which helped keep my cost down! Also there's a couple points about the 2133MHz RAM used in the above build, I was able to add 8GB 2400 for not a lot more also leaving a second slot open for upgrades.

P.S. I already have 2x2TB WD Green Drives hence why that's on the list. Also my case came from Amazon and isn't in the PC Parts Picker Data Base. Looking forward to my first build!! https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qCkY8K

whatmeow 1 point 29 days ago

Currently an RX480 is close to the price of that GPU as the prices continue drop due to AMD's release of Ryzen.

3fifty8 1 point 28 days ago

Guys.. I havent messed with desktops since about 12 years ago when I was into audio production. Been looking at the Alienware ASM100 with the i3 - windows version. You can pick those up pretty cheap on ebay once in a while as low as $300 shipped.

I currently use an older elitebook 8460p laptop with an i5-2520m cpu with integrated graphics. Bought an asus rog laptop for around $1300 a couple months back but returned it as I started doing more research on desktops.

Would I be better off with something I can use right away like the alienware or is this build a better value?

3fifty8 1 point 28 days ago

I know as for upgrades, i wont be able to upgrade the gpu on the alienware.. only the cpu, hdd, ram

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 27 days ago

Can yiu just buy a nice cpu and use the intergrated graphics card in the cpu? It seems like this would allow you to take advantage of buying a nicer cpu that already has a nice graphics card in it.

ScripZero 1 Build 2 points 4 days ago

never use on board graphics if you plan on playing games or doing any kind of editing. A gpu has 100s of cores made for rendering images and working on simple tasks with alot at atime, while a cpu has very few cores for working on very complicated tasks. Only use onboard graphics if you are trying to do like microsoft office products and browsing the web, and maybe a few small games like league of legends or minecraft.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 27 days ago

You're not going to get nearly as good of performance from the iGPU of a better CPU, so if gaming performance is your goal, I wouldn't recommend that.

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 27 days ago

Isn't a RX 480 pretty good? I guess I'm confused on what make's a graphics card good or bad. It's hard learning everything lol

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 27 days ago

One good thing to do is look up benchmarks by established tech sites (Google will be your friend) and see how cards compare in performance on different games that are relevant to you at resolutions that are relevant to you. You won't necessarily always find performance for your games, but getting a sense of how they do overall will help too. Make sure you post in our Part List Opinions Wanted or Create A Part List For Me subforums too.

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 27 days ago

Okay thank you very much!

SuperGuyDoesGames 1 point 16 days ago

Better CPUs don't ALWAYS have a better iGPU (Integrated graphics), as even the i7-7700k (Top of the line consumer CPU from Intel) has the same iGPU as an i3-7100, a CPU that costs 1/3 as much.

Also, dedicated graphics cards are usually better, (Almost always, except at the bottom of the market in the ~$30 range), as this page shows: Userbenchmark Intel HD 630 vs RX 470 the GPU in this build. Nearly 6 times faster in Graphics tasks.

But, there are always use cases where people don't need dedicated graphics processors. Maybe one of those use cases is yours. It's your computer after all.

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 12 days ago

Do you think you could send me a build under $600? I enjoy overwatch, total war, RTS games if it matters lol

SuperGuyDoesGames 1 point 10 days ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $197.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $46.98 @ Newegg
Memory Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $47.92 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $44.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ B&H
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 470 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card $148.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $32.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $46.89 @ B&H
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $665.73
Mail-in rebates -$50.00
Total $615.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-15 07:34 EDT-0400

This should do pretty well. 128gb SSD for Windows 10, 1tb HDD for everything else, an RX 470 should do very well on the games you mentioned (1080p Ultra ~50-60FPS at least), and the i5 should help with at least Total War, a VERY CPU intensive title.

Run this build through some other people on this website too though, they may have better ideas than I do. Good luck on whatever build you do settle on!

*NOTE: If you trust some other retailers more than I do, you can get better prices than these, probably below $600.

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 27 days ago

Could someone help me out? I'm very new to PC gaming and I need help figuring out what is better than not besides price. Could someone give me a good $500 build for gaming? All I want to play is the total war series and possibly overwatch.

CantBeatAnyone 1 point 23 days ago

if you need to cut cost on this i would recommend dropping the ssd or the hard drive you can choose based on your needs but I would say this is a very good build for these titles. you have plenty of options to upgrade in the future as well. Although there are some upgrades i would recommend immediately like getting an rx480 and ram clocked at 2400

BigNastyUnicorn36 1 point 27 days ago

Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core, Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon, TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Total: $519.24 This is my first $500 build but I'm not sure if I have done it well or right at all. Could someone look it over and let me know your opinions or if you even have a better build I'd much appreciated it.

Glitch_Fit 1 point 26 days ago

How well would games like GTA V, Just Cause 3 or Far Cry 4 run on ultra settings???? And if not well how about a level under ultra settings.

12345nidal 1 point 15 days ago

40-60 FPS

Glitch_Fit 1 point 11 days ago

Great thanks

somewhatMLG 1 point 25 days ago

Could this run overwatch at1024x728?

ShadowofElements 1 point 25 days ago

Yes, you would easily get over 60 fps.

He_162 1 point 25 days ago

The deep cool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case is sold out on SuperBiiz, and it isn't as cheap as some other cases when you add shipping, so I would suggest another case.

AtomicDonut17 1 point 23 days ago

These builds should include the price for an OS. Considering it's necessary, this build goes up to over 600 bucks, if you're getting the latest OS (Willy Wonka 10, jk WindowsLicker) which is 109$ OEM. ;-;

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mSelinger24 1 point 22 days ago

would i be able to play Overwatch and Battlefield, max settings at a solid 60 fps with this build? display is a 1080p, very standard monitor

SuperGuyDoesGames 1 point 16 days ago

One word: Definitely. An RX470 will max out both of those easily.

llamasbetrippin01 1 point 1 day ago

For battlefield, it depends on what CPU you have or will get, because with an AMD FX 8320 you will get about 57fps, but with an i7-6700k you will get about 84fps, with an i5-3570k you will get about 80fps, all with the RX 470, Overwatch is an easy game to run, so no issues there, in fact some of the GTX 10 series cards max out at about 240 fps, either due to the game engine not supporting 240Hz+ or there is a CPU bottleneck.

tommygk24 1 point 22 days ago

Hi i'm new this stuff and i was just wondering whether this needed an optical drive. Also does it need to a network adapter?

Shikese 2 points 17 days ago

It needs and optical drive if you plan on using dvds or blue rays. It will need a notwork adapter if you cant use an Ethernet cable.

youngstew 1 point 18 days ago

I can afford this, It looks nice but I don't know much about pc's but iv done a lot of research. I play games no bigger then rust, right now I run it on a 2010 mac :( on all low settings and I get 13 frames at best. would this be able to run it and at what settings. I play csgo too but I heard that takes nothing to run

thanks to whoever awnsers my question

youngstew 1 point 18 days ago

is their anything that I could change to make it better for a better price depending on if these parts are older?

Shikese 1 point 17 days ago

this can play both of those games extremely well. You could get rid of the ssd if you had to. You could also get the RX470 if you've got a little extra. If you plan on playing rust the best you'll get is low or medium 60 fps (Just a estimate) You definatly want a better cpu for rust. CS will run very well though (Max 60+fps)

youngstew 1 point 17 days ago

thanks a tun

SuperGuyDoesGames 1 point 16 days ago

This thing will destroy CS:GO. If you are willing to take out the SSD and get a cheaper PSU, you could cram/add an i5-7400 for Rust.

Drekloe 1 point 18 days ago

1st pc build thank you

MeleeGuy13 1 point 17 days ago

would I need to but a wireless network adapter to connect this build to the internet wirelessly? if so, which wireless network adapter would you suggest? I have 2.4 bandwidth and 5 bandwidth wifi.

Rooach 1 point 17 days ago

I want a PC to play games at 720P because it's my screen resolution, would you recommend this system? do you recommend a RX480 or is it overkill for 720?

Barros 1 point 11 days ago

Way overkill for 720p. This can handle 1080p at Maximum..

franklasalvia 1 point 16 days ago

With this build, could I easily upgrade to an i7 and a GTX 1070 later on? I'm looking to build a basic gaming rig that I can upgrade to be a bit more advanced later on

ShiftyT 1 point 14 days ago

Yes you could easily upgrade to an i7 in the LGA 1151 chipset and the GTX 1070 since the board has a PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot.

echo1631 1 point 15 days ago

how well could this run arma 3?

Shikese 1 point 5 days ago

Need a better cpu.

Dirtypanqaukes 1 point 15 days ago

How much fps will this aquire on bf1?

Yeszz 1 point 14 days ago

Alright. I am trying to build a budget budget budget gaming pc of max 700$ with peripherals like mouse keyboard and monitor. Now i was wondering if it would be worth spending the now 125$ more expensive rx480 for gaming. I am not planning on playing any heavy games whatsoever, but i am just scared of getting something which is of too low quiality. Also, Seeing as the processor in this build is 60$, would it be good enough for gaming? I have read most other comments which say that this build can easily run games, but i can't help feeling like a pentium processor is just too bad for my liking. I have no experience at all at building pc's so any help appreciated :). Also i would like to have many options for upgrading in the future.

P.S. This https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KGj8m8 is my pc so far. Any suggetstions?

TheJayYo 2 points 10 days ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pJcGNN consider this one. It's an edited version of your build that's a bit cheaper, but performs better for gaming.

Yeszz 2 points 9 days ago

Oh my word thats perfect!!! thank you so much! that was exactly what i was looking for but i just couldn't find it. Thank you :)

Himbald 1 point 14 days ago

Hi guys, I'm a total novice and don't know squat yet . .. might try my first gaming build, but leaning towards simply ordering a CyberPower in the $500 to $700 range for my first gaming system. Want to play Skyrim (Legendary Edition), AC Black Flag, and Dishonored, mainly.
The above "entry level" looks OK to me but have a few questions:

How would it fair for the a fore mentioned games?

Want an optical drive. I have a DVD-RAM ATA drive from my current HP 6005 Pro Desktop but looks like I might have problems going from win 7 to win 10. Why are so many systems without optical drives?

I am completely confused by SSD's. . . Can't you just have an internal 500GB SSD . . . Why would you need a conventional HD too if you really only need about 500GB's of storage? Also - Wouldn't you have disk management headaches in having to switch from one to the other in installing and/or accessing?

Any input greatly appreciated!

hollyman 1 point 13 days ago

It will handle those games just fine.

If you want an optical drive just make sure the case has a bay for it, more and more cases coming out don't have them anymore.

Mechanical HDDs are still unbeatable in price/GB, and I imagine most people don't need SSD speeds when accessing types of data that would be saved on one, like videos, pictures, etc... Win 10 makes it very easy to choose what drive you want new programs installed to and where to save your personal files and documents with a simple drop down menu for each in settings > storage.

For this build, I would swap out the SATA SSD, for a M.2 NVMe. I think it's a no brainier, prices are dropping, they are much faster, this board supports it, and it's something you will most likely end up doing eventually anyway.

scoutkill43 1 point 13 days ago

Why would you get that PC, when you could get this one for around the same price?

TheJayYo 1 point 10 days ago

You don't need the CPU cooler or thermal compound. Both come included. Also a 7200rpm HDD is faster AND cheaper.

scoutkill43 2 points 9 days ago

Oh! Thanks, I am a noob with building PCs.

Barros 1 point 13 days ago

Sorry for noob question but why a Micro ATX for a ATX mid tower case?

Shikese 1 point 5 days ago

No reason to have a atx mobo

liek837 1 point 12 days ago

Any reason why you're using a Pentium G4560 over an i3-1600?

TheJayYo 1 point 10 days ago

It's $40 less for a very small difference in performance. The G4560 has hyperthreading too, which used to be the main advantage of i3's vs Pentiums

liek837 2 points 8 days ago

Ok... I looked it up just now and its a very small difference. Thanks for clarifying though!

Homesick_Broly 1 point 12 days ago

Would this build be able to run rainbow six seige just as well if not better than next gen consoles?

fadorin 1 point 9 days ago

I have no idea about that particular game, but this video shows what the Pentium G4560 + RX 470 can do with many of its contemporaries such as Battlefield 1, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Rise of the Tomb Raider and etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dichjs9HXTg

rich4777 1 point 11 days ago

So no possibility of dropping another GPU in. 2xRX480's are £320, which seems a good upgrade path.

avvaye 1 point 10 days ago

This would be my first build and I am kind of new to it. Would this be a good build for csgo, LoL, and video editing/ streaming?

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

fine for editing and gaming (will be a little slow for rendering) you would be able to stream but wouldnt reccomend it

bstosnbata 0 points 7 days ago

good for csgo and lol, but you need a better processor for video editing and streaming. while you're at it, i would buy a better videocard as well.

Shikese 1 point 9 days ago

I build this computer (When the graphics card was MSI 470) and I've only played 2 games but on LoL i get anywhere from 150 fps to 300 max settings and on borderlands 2 I get 60 to 90 max settings I will try to remember to update once I play new games

Emikshua 1 point 9 days ago

Love It!

louis301 1 point 9 days ago

Could I possibly stream and or record videos with this build?

sunnybura 1 point 7 days ago

Hi Everyone! This is Sunny here. I am new to PC building and I do not have much technical knowledge of computers. I basically read up and watched some videos on the internet and tried to build a gaming setup. Click on the link below to view the list of parts I chose based on my limited understanding of gaming PCs and availability of the parts on Amazon India. 'Compatibility Check' showed 'No issues/incompatibilities found'. So, I assume this configuration would work, at least on paper. I would love to hear from you all if I can further improve this list without going beyond $1000 (please note that parts in India are slightly expensive compared to the US/UK). (https://in.pcpartpicker.com/guide/vKRscf/entry-level-gaming-build-1)

TheJayYo 1 point 5 days ago

The CPU cooler is not necessary, as all 'non-k' CPUs come with one included.

As far as RAM goes, just go for the cheapest possible, as it doesn't make a noticeable difference.

If you're trying to save money, you can go for a Pentium G4560 CPU and a B250 mobo (like in the above build). Otherwise, if you're looking for more power, you may consider a i5-6500 cpu + B150/H170 mobo or an i5-7500 cpu + B250/H270 mobo

Also, for the mobo, getting the cheapest option (within the correct chipset) works just fine. So if you're getting a i3-6100, the cheapest B150/H170 should work. If you go 7th gen (i5-7500/i3-7100), the cheapest B250/H270 would work.

For the GPU, if you can go for a Radeon RX 470, it's usually a little more expensive, but it's a LOT more powerful

Finally, for the PSU, check out some PSU tier lists online and make sure the one you use has good reviews. A bad PSU can risk ruining an entire PC, so make sure it's alright. Here's a tier list: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

Poschi 1 point 6 days ago

Following the release of Ryzen would you change the cpu on this at all? My friends looking to build in this price range but I can't convince him the pentium is sound.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 6 days ago

The cheapest Ryzen CPU at the moment is $330, so not right now.

keistabeast 1 point 6 days ago

Can anybody give me an FPS estimate for Arma 3? It would be greatly appreciated.

thebigbadkitty1 1 point 5 days ago

Why is it being changed so much it was different yesterday and the day before can you please tell me why, i bought most of the parts from yesterday will they still work with the build???? First time for me and i don't understand..

ausxin 1 point 4 days ago

It's a first for me too, man. Why don't you list out all the parts you've already bought and see what the experienced builder's suggest?

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

its based on parametric filters, so each part is based on what parts can be interchangable without performance loss but still be at the cheapest price because pc part prices are always changing.

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

also please show me what you have already ordered and ill help you pick out the other parts you still need.

canaadriane 1 point 4 days ago

How many frames will this get on Overwatch? What about graphically intensive games such as GTA V?

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

60+ fps on overwatch max settings. 40-60 in gta, also gta is cpu intensive and not as much gpu intensive.

ausxin 1 point 4 days ago

Does anyone have an update on when the Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor might be back in stock? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

you can get a g4600 from jet with 15% for about $10 more than a g4560 wich is a slightly faster proccesor and will be a great replacement option if you cant find the g4560.

Spranowo 1 point 4 days ago

How many fps to play ff14 on max setting 1080p ?? his build is the same as my build except motherboard im gonna use h110

PlutoniumPC 1 point 3 days ago

Best way to get Windows for this?

onenationx 1 point 3 days ago

Hello, I am totally new to the website, and wanted to know if this would be suitable for my gaming needs. I want to play games like CSGO, skyrim, just cause 3, dragons dogma, and a few more rpg style games. Would this build be enough for that?

I have never built a pc and am completely new to everything, but am trying to make my first one.

I'm not trying to play the latest games on ultra, and am not a graphics fanatic, so medium settings are fine for me too.

Thanks for your help!!!

CrimsonBlood 1 point 2 days ago

What monitor should I pair up with this build?

King_Dale 1 point 2 days ago

would this play h1z1 kotk at 60 fps?

djporter12 1 point 2 days ago

You could also try a GTX 1050 or GTX 1050 ti instead of say the GTX 1060 3GB. It's a 4GB card and can run most AAA titles pretty well. Plus it is typically priced somewhere around $100. It's great little piece of hardware that can handle quite a lot.

kippers 1 point 1 day ago

could i use a WD Blue 1TB SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD10EZEX, instead of the Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive?

kippers 1 point 1 day ago

i feel dumb now, there the same thing

Shaggyelkiller 1 point 1 day ago

Hey I'm new to the gaming pc is dis a good pc to play CSGO h1z1 rust and battlegrounds thanks for the help

JSchen 1 point 1 day ago

Would this run games like Conan Exiles, or any other games that I through at it with a reasonable frame rate????

llamasbetrippin01 1 point 1 day ago

I personally don't know why on most if not all build guides (budget builds, or enthusiast builds) all include an SSD, I get it it's fast, but its it worth the extra money? I only have a high capacity HDD and I'm perfectly fine with it, in fact I only see the option to go into the BIOS for a brief second, and then im booted into windows, for that extra money from getting rid of the SSD you could get a better GPU, or CPU. A hard drive is not going to kill you to wait the extra 15 seconds or so in games, but like I said, almost, if not all budget build guides include an SSD, and it's not like you can't upgrade to an SSD later on, so make it have a very good price to performance ratio, if you took out the SSD you would be at about $469.74, and for that you can get an RX 480 and still be under the price of this, and yes I know in the description of this build guide it says "Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or remove a drive to fit yours." but make it slightly more appealing to the very "low budget gamer" who wants the best performance for the lowest cost, because an SSD will more than likely not improve your millions of frames in CSGO (that was a hyperbole.)

And this is NOT a hate comment im just giving my educated opinion based off of what I experience and what I see on PCPP, and this is also not hating on ThoughtA, because he's a pretty cool guy tbh

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 day ago

Heya, your opinion is completely valid! One thing you are missing is that when you have an SSD, everything stored on it will be much snappier and more responsive. That may not matter to everyone, but I find it to be far and away the most important benefit - certainly more important than boot times and load times.

llamasbetrippin01 1 point 5 hours ago

Thanks for they reply, and I do understand what you are saying, but as far as I know that applies to loading times, and maybe in-game menus, like in BeamNG.Drive the menus load a little slow, maybe 4 seconds, so I guess an SSD would benefit in that aspect as well.

JustusEllington23 1 point 1 day ago

Hi! I'm fairly new to this and I have almost no idea what I'm doing and I would like some help and I was wondering if this would be enough to run games like Overwatch, Fallout, and other games such as those? Also I don't really have that much money so I'm looking for the cheapest but best model I can find! Thanks sorry for the trouble

mttmortensen 1 point 1 day ago

I think I have my answer after reading some of the comments. Would this handle the fighting game, Killer Instinct on high settings?

JSchen 1 point 3 hours ago

anyone know of any other cases I could use for this build, I'm not to picky but I prefer white and red with a clear side so you can see into it.

Namnguyen 0 points 1 month ago

Nice budget build but i would go for a gtx 1050 instead of the radeon rx 470. It will be cheaper.

ethan.meskin 5 points 1 month ago

the 1050 has half the vram, and the performance is pretty atrocious in more demanding games. did you mean the 1050 ti? if so id still go with the rx 470

Namnguyen 0 points 1 month ago

i meant the 1050 and the 1050 ti

Condred 5 points 1 month ago

I disagree with a 1050ti. The RX 470 is still going to perform a lot better while not being that much more expensive.

AS118 1 point 1 month ago

Totally agree, an earlier build had the 1050 Ti, and the overwhelming complain is that the 470 is only a little bit extra, but at least 1.5 x as powerful. The 1050 Ti is more for 300w psu OEM PC's that you just want to slap a card in and game with.

Custom builds with 450w+ power supplies should get a 470, imho.

Namnguyen 1 point 3 days ago

for starters i think its a bit pricey

THEDESTINEDKING 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks to new optimization the RX 460 would be a better choice than the 1050.

ScripZero 1 Build 1 point 4 days ago

dont get a gtx 1050, the rx 470 is a million times better and it will be much more worth it in the long run.

Namnguyen 1 point 3 days ago

i know but i was aiming for the price

brecci -2 points 22 days ago

I would change your gpu to a Gtx 1050ti it's way better and cheaper

shreduhsoreus 3 Builds 2 points 18 days ago

It is absolutely not better, not even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8vpYob5fGI

SuperGuyDoesGames 2 points 16 days ago

Did you just compare an RX 470 to a GTX 1050ti?

30-40% faster in real life, 50%+ percent faster in synthetic benchmarks (Eg. UserBenchmark).

brecci 0 points 11 days ago

Ik I thought it was a diffrent gpu

ePiCPanCake69 -3 points 8 days ago

Could have got a 6 billion times better CPU for a budge of $550

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ThoughtA staff submitter 6 points 1 month ago

I'd really rather not recommend something that won't work straight out of the box.

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80-wattHamster 1 Build 4 points 1 month ago

You'd honestly prefer that someone buy a board that requires BIOS update for the chosen CPU, have it not boot, and then spend X amount of time trying to troubleshoot who-knows-what, potentially sending back a bunch of components at their own expense, costing them both money and time spent actually using their new machine, all in the name of a learning experience? That's a poor attitude, IMO.

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William12345 3 points 1 month ago

cuz if you want to use a b150 in a kaby lake, you have to possess a b150 and uptade in your pc by yourself, manufacturer doesn't make the uptade

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor 6W - 54W
Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 15W - 60W
Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 5W - 5W
Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
XFX Radeon RX 470 4GB Triple X Video Card 30W - 120W
Total: 62W - 269W